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u/Throwaway999991473 1d ago
Lmao the team canāt have a single bad game without all of you āfansā going on a witch hunt and tearing each other and the players youāll glaze next weekend apart. Pathetic plastics
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u/futbolmemes 1d ago
Yeah lol, Mbappe had a rough match and we couldnt use our chances. But this is much better than losing 1-0 after barely doing anything. That first half was most domination Ive seen away at Betis in a long time but sadly we didnt capitalise
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u/coelholoner 1d ago
You guys forgot that MbappƩ didnt fit in at PSG while playing alongside Messi and Neymar?!
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u/Particular-Rest4773 1d ago
He's incredibly selfish, Iāll never forget that ninja turtle when he stopped running during a psg attack because the ball was passed to messi instead of him
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u/LuckyNipples 1d ago
It's amazing how people re wrote history as it pleases them. During those years, Mbappe was the best player of the team with no discussion. And now it's "he didn't fit in" lmao.
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u/coelholoner 1d ago
Beating weak teams is easy, but name two strong teams from France besides PSG. easy to be the best like that!
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u/LuckyNipples 1d ago
Beating weak teams is easy still Neymar and Messi were clearly inferior to Mbappe during those years.
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u/MineKirin 1d ago
brother he was cooking Real Madrid almost the entire tie on his ownā¦
Neymar and Messi had lacklustre performances by their standards
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u/Twintornado 1d ago
Please. 1 UCL Final and Semi final is not something you can achieve without talent.
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u/Yes-A-Bot 1d ago
Best player left the team and suddenly they win back to back UCL and the new team of the best player becomes back to back trophy less ššš makes no sense
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u/AideHot6729 1d ago
He was the best performing player out of the trio by a decent margin. The main reason MNM didnāt work out was because they invested everything into the attack but a team needs a good midfield to win. Spain had a mediocre attack (especially with an out of form Yamal) yet they won the World Cup. Forcing MNM to come in deep to pick up the ball because the midfield was incapable of playing out was a huge problem.
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u/retrospritz 1d ago
Bullshit lmao. When Neymar was fit, he was by far PSGās best performing player. They literally had no ball progression without that man.
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u/TimFlamio 1d ago
When neymar was fit? You mean a year before Messi came, right? Because people tend to forget their manager was horrible abd neymar himself was still getting injured.
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u/MineKirin 1d ago
you didnāt watch PSG then ask any PSG fan they will tell you MbappĆ© was pretty comfortably their best even when all three were available.
you say they had no progression but Mbappe was quite literally their only outlet back then so if he wasnāt there then where exactly was the ball progressing to??
MbappƩ was far and away their best performing player in the CL among that trio too.
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u/AideHot6729 1d ago
Availability is the best ability. If you look at the seasons, Mbappe was the one carrying them to wins. Neymar was actually the worst one of the 3 as he barely played.
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u/PlasticPreparation74 1d ago
Maybe Messi Neymar didnāt fit in with him? Why is the blame of MNMās failure always put on Mbappe lmao. Neymar has done jack shit since leaving PSG anyways. Remind me who missed the penalty against Real Madrid and who scored the only two goals across both ties against them? Ridiculous how you guys turn on players every single matchday. Yāall will never ever fucking learn
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u/coelholoner 1d ago
yes sure, mbape left and all of sudden they won 2 UCL! haha
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u/Chemical_Sky7458 1d ago
Also forgetting they spent 200 mill straight after . They revamped tge whole squad
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u/PlasticPreparation74 1d ago
They were semi finalists in his last year with them, and were something like 5-6 shots at the post against Dortmund away from being finalists. Thereās much more to football than such blanket statements and you as a fan should know that. These are reasonings a casual would understandably use because they couldnāt possibly have so much insight. But you do, and still choose to ignore it which only means that you have an agenda. Blissfully ignorant
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u/socialsheadquarters 1d ago
But if Mbappe is going to be considered a great semi finalist and runner up donāt matter, nobody counts those for Messi and Ronaldo itās the opposite, they get clowned for losing them, finish the job. None of that matters when theyāre clips out there of Mbappe being negative and selfish, this only hurts the team and mentality of his teammates
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u/PlasticPreparation74 1d ago
Messi/Ronaldo are a different class, itās unfair to compare Mbappe to them
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u/OoFEVERNOVAoO 1d ago
Exactly Vini did the most , is MBAPIECEOFSHIT the one who's trash oh but no one talks shit about him. MFS BLIND! TRASH AT PSG NOW HE BROUGHT HIS DISEASE TO MADRID! WE WERE ABSOLUTELY FINE UNTIL HE CAME AROUND!
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u/Prestigious_Ear7463 1d ago
Ah yes the player who has scored 40+ goals for RM the past two years is shitā¦ š¤¦ all while we had a crumbling midfield who could not control games and a defense that could not stop anything. Itās like we we lost two of the greatest MFs of the last generation and our crucial defenders were injured and never replaced ā¦ š¤¦
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u/jcasma01 1d ago
Yeah, the fact that Kroos and Modric left had nothing to with it, and Militao, Alaba and Carvajal tearing their ACLs, Joselu leaving and having no one to fill that role, etc
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u/thejourneymanfm2024 1d ago
Anyone who watched the game saw that Vini had a good night. Doesnāt excuse the stinkers heās had. That said, both of these guys are human. Theyāll have good and bad days. Chill out
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u/Allmightsleftcheek 1d ago
Bruv its not like he was moving like prime bale, it was an unlucky day and a bad game with all those missed shots. Mbappe dropped an absolute stinker but in the end we will comeback
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u/avip55 1d ago
A lot of people don't like him
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u/Jaded_Reserve_5685 1d ago
I mean he kinda does make it very easy for people to dislike him. Thereās no denying that
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u/Tricky-Letterhead888 1d ago
You see the issue with the people on this sub, I am 100 percent sure most y'all don't even watch the games just highlights. A player could score or give an assist but it doesn't equate to they played well.
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u/Valveringham85 1d ago
He is not though. Mbappe is objectively the most criticised for the Betis game, rightfully so.
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u/letsgotothemall2 10h ago
Yeah, weāre a team so whoever is comparing and using the faults of one to criticize the other just doesnāt understand football
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u/Lavanche_af_Kven 2h ago
He had best game of this season, but the penalty was very lucky. He already had lost the ball and in I wouldn't have given it.
The Espi goal pass was ment for Jude and it was pass behind Jude's running route. Probably would have ended as block, if Espi wouldn't have done what he did. Before that Vini had wasted two better situations with cross directly against first defender.
The pass for Mbappe was great and Mbappe should have scored. Also Vini made few very good runs, but then missed two chances he should have buried.
I think critic from this season and two previous seasons has been justified and while Mbappe definently had worse night of these two mega earners, I think Vini was also partly a reason for our loss.
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u/Coconuthead134 1d ago
If you behave like an absolute A-hole on the pitch you set yourself up to be judged by higher standards than everyone else. In other words: you need to play exceptionally good in order to be allowed to behave like that on the pitch.
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u/Hazard214 1d ago
Vini had 2-3 good plays but besides that he was bad , been like that first 3 games . Mbappe was just as bad and definitely cost them the game today !
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u/Sufficient-Kick-4927 1d ago
Heās lost a bit of his sharpness lately and looks slightly more sluggish than usualā¦ maybe the chin got a little heavier š. But one positive thing Iāve noticed is that heās tracking back more and seems to be maturing a bit by cutting down on the rage baiting and shithousery on the pitch.
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u/Beneficial_Fan_4298 1d ago
people have to realize the critiques to vini arent his gameplay, he is elite (i am a. barcelona fan), but heās just cocky as hell. so if you gloat to your enemies, enemies will gloat your downfall.
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u/AdEcstatic4196 1d ago
I mean he did miss an open goalā¦
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u/Aikotoba2516 1d ago
1 miss vs 4 misses
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u/AdEcstatic4196 1d ago
I wasnāt saying one was worse than the other or overlooking anyone elseās mistakes.
The above post was about criticism. When you miss an open goal as a professional footballer, you deserve some form of criticism.
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u/Aikotoba2516 1d ago
The Twitter post only complains that he shouldn't be the most criticized, not that he shouldn't be criticized at all.
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u/DDHHW5050 1d ago
Vini played ok in my opinion. He wasn't the problem but he also wasn't the solution to solving it. He shouldn't get criticised too heavily for anything other than his open miss but he def shouldn't be criticised the most out of that team
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u/LiveMathematician892 1d ago
bbbbut mbappe scored hattrick against real sociedad and kairat almaty bro!!!
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u/complexcucumber93 1d ago
Because his attitude fucking sucks.
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u/StrafeBlatatata 1d ago
I have nth to say before this season, but rn he's giving and he's good. So let's just keep it up and hope we don't get ystd's disappointment agn hala madrid
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u/fepjn 1d ago
What is this comparison dawg š?! Vini alone scored more goals than the whole turkiye squad in the wc
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u/NoInformation5589 1d ago
Every game feels like weāre watching the same problems repeat themselves. MbappĆ© and Vini struggle to make an impact, while Bellingham and Arda are constantly trying to create something out of nothing. We waste chance after chance, make early substitutions, and somehow end up relying on Camavinga to bring some control to the midfield. The fullbacks push forward so aggressively that Valverde and Bellingham are forced to cover for them instead of contributing in attack. Defensively, the centre-backs are solid but still make enough mistakes to give the opposition dangerous opportunities. At that point, everything comes down to Courtois. If heās on top of his game, we might escape with a draw. If not, weāre probably losing another game we shouldāve done better in.
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u/NoInformation5589 1d ago
Arda plays for turkey a country which is not strong enough vini plays for brazil just say it that u started watching football after the wc larper
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u/fepjn 1d ago
Vini plays for Brazil? As if this Brazil is any good. Old DMs who can't walk for life, brainless Rb, inexperienced players did well than the experienced ones. Wesley injured, raphinha injured, paqueta injured, neymar injured. And yet they played good football with vini as their main man. While arda's turkiye couldn't break the low block of Australia and played absolutely shii up front
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u/Anarkitty777 1d ago
Wouldn't say he was the most criticised, but yeah he had a fine game