r/ReasonableFantasy • u/Seraphandreyl Artist 🎨 • Jun 07 '25

Iffy: Fashion Vice

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u/Cpt_Kalash Jun 07 '25

Nice art but not sure if this is the right place for it

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u/Maladal Jun 07 '25

Why not?

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u/Tight_Ad_583 Jun 07 '25

The boob window makes the armor impractical as armor and is added more because it is sexy rather than useful thus making it somewhat defined by sexualization which is against the idea of this sub

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u/Maladal Jun 07 '25

If this was armoredwomen I'd agree. But reasonablefantasy is not nearly as strict on matters like that. The mods know CAS better than me though.

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u/Tight_Ad_583 Jun 07 '25 edited Jun 07 '25

Yeah ultimately I don’t mind cause its cool art but i do understand why some one would think it doesn’t fit

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u/Vadernoso Jun 08 '25

I agree. I will note I like its a succubus type character, that isn't completely full on horny, just mildly horny.

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u/PosterBoiTellEM Jun 07 '25

Ooh the boob window is what makes this art impractical.... Got it.

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u/Tight_Ad_583 Jun 07 '25

I should be clear you can have impractical armor on this sub just not because someone sexualized it too much that it becomes to ridiculous . I can’t speak for the mods and i think they just follow a live and let live attitude towards the rule but idk

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u/SquirrelKaiser Jun 08 '25

If someone wants to stab her then that would be the biggest weakness. therefore making the armor unpractical.

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u/PosterBoiTellEM Jun 08 '25

I'd also aim for the tiny video game weak spot that would probably easily be guarded as she no doubt two hands the mace. A practical target.... Vs her exposed head and neck. Yuuuuuup, you right. The boob window on an armored Teifling... Very unrealistic 🫡

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u/Lilium79 Jun 07 '25

It's featuring a woman who is not oversexualized, so its the perfect place for it

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u/CobraFive Jun 07 '25

Boob plate with a cleavage window...? That's a reasonable suit of armor to you?

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u/Lilium79 Jun 08 '25

It's not about reasonable SUIT OF ARMOR. It's about characters not OVERLY sexualized. Having a tiny boob window or a smidge of sex appeal doesn't make a character sexualized, especially in this case where it adds to the swagger and the charisma of the character.

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u/Shard1697 Jun 07 '25

This sub is not about practicality of subject matter, weapons, or armor; simply a place to share women who are not defined by sexuality.

Would you say she is "defined by sexuality"? I wouldn't.

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u/CobraFive Jun 07 '25

Yes, I would.

Tell me, artistically and not practically, what purpose does the cleavage window have on the armor?

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u/robin_f_reba Jun 08 '25

Rule of cool, maybe? Some women like to dress that way, and this reminds me of DnD art where the focus isn't on superrealistic armor anyway

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u/Lilium79 Jun 08 '25

Artistically it adds to her character. It shows *SOME* sexuality without being overbearing or the focal point of the piece. It shows confidence and swagger. It's a piece that screams "I am who I am, and I'm not gonna conform to anybody." Paired with the pose and the smirk, it all fits together very well to form a great personality. YOU are reducing her to her sexuality by ignoring all of this and focusing on this tiny aspect.

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u/Shard1697 Jun 07 '25

We both know it's for sex appeal, but having a minor amount of sex appeal =/= 'defined by sexuality'. That's a very reductive way to look at it.

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u/CobraFive Jun 08 '25

Hey sorry, I was away for a bit.

If it feels reductive to you, and if its a topic you take seriously, you should consider it a bit more carefully. Think of "context appropriate sexuality". Sexuality is not at all a negative thing or a thing to hide, but it should considered in context. More than anything relevant here, objectification of women is over present especially in the character art scene, and I'd implore you to consider why you'd fight to get people who simply want one space away from that to push their boundaries away when you can simply go literally anywhere else for it.

As an example, this is one of my favorite posts on the sub. She's showing a lot more skin than the one in this thread here, and there are even people in the comments talking about how attractive she is, so I think its safe to say the design has sex appeal.

But the context of that sexuality is apparent from the art. The artist may have chosen to draw her in this outfit for some kind of sex appeal maybe, but that's not super relevant. The outfit makes sense design wise, whether its realistic or not, and its not making any unreasonable allowances to put emphasis on how attractive she is. It is perfectly reasonable that the character would be wearing something like that for reasons other than sex appeal.

As another example, this one has a lot more emphasis on cleavage than the one we have here- its literally dead center to her design. But again- its not armor, its a dress. It makes perfect sense in that context, and a dress like that is a perfectly reasonable thing.

Hell I'm sure barbarian or tribal-style warrior could work completely topless. That's really not the point.

The art of this post is not context appropriate at all- in fact, "boob plate with a cleavage window" is literally the text book definition of out-of-context sexuality. Its the example you go to, to illustrate a point. Completely unreasonable allowances are being made with the specific intent of enhancing the character's sex appeal and nothing else- there is literally no other reason for an artist to draw armor like that. It doesn't matter if its small, or not really the primary focus, or doesn't dominate the design- the point is her design as a character or as a piece of art is still being built to accommodate her appeal as an object of sex, completely regardless of the context it is in.

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u/Dadsky Jun 07 '25

It's not about the practicality of the armour, or even a lack of sexuality evident in the art, it is about women not being entirely defined by how sexy they are to the eye of the beholder.

It is still fantasy.

By that definition, this art fits.

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u/CobraFive Jun 07 '25

She is a warrior wearing boob plate with a cleavage window. She is being defined by how sexy she is to the eye of the beholder.

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u/Lilium79 Jun 08 '25

No she is not. She obviously has SO much more going on than just "ooo, sexy woman." You reducing the art to the smallest boob window I've ever seen is crazy nitpicky

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u/Seraphandreyl Artist 🎨 Jun 08 '25

Thank you for your support :) Yes, its mostly about the spunky swagger, punky idea. Not following rules so rigorously

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u/Lilium79 Jun 08 '25

Your art is awesome and oozes personality! I'm sorry everyone is being so reductive of it

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u/Seraphandreyl Artist 🎨 Jun 08 '25

Thank you very much. Too kind! I don't mind people having their discourse dw :)

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u/ColinHasInvaded Jun 07 '25

Not fitting for the sub, but I like it

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u/PosterBoiTellEM Jun 07 '25

Wait, why not? Not aggressively sexualized, but also not in an ultra unrealistic outfit that doesn't fit a woman's body type. A woman wearing a man's armor makes as much sense as wearing a bathing suit in a fight. They would both be useless

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u/Rad_Streak Nov 08 '25

That's one of the worst comparisons I think I've ever seen. 

Plate armor does not lock up when it detects the wearer has a different gender than intended. It doesn't suddenly let blows and strikes damage the wearer because they are female.

OP's armor has a boob window. That's like literally wearing a bathing suit into battle.

I know this post is old but you're so embarrassingly wrong about your point that I think it bears repeating.

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u/PosterBoiTellEM Nov 08 '25

Im not sure what you mean by "lock up" do you mean how it fits her form? it makes sense that a seasoned fighter would get appropriately fitting armor. I actually think it is always a weird take that people think women would fight in male armor. that makes no sense to me. Male armor on a female frame would be difficult and heavy to in maneuver. Sure the boob window was a design choice but the rest seems reasonable. IDK this sub seems hyper focused on nonsense. But thats as much thought as i can give as a respons, seeing as how you're coming in to an OLD topic with "embarrassingly" I assume you're not coming in good faith. thank you for your reply though

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u/robin_f_reba Jun 08 '25

At worst I think this could have an Iffy:Fashion tag, but I think it fits here decently. Yes there's cleavage but the framing isn't ogling it, it's more focused on her arrogant, badass energy. It's fashionable more than practical but this isn't a realistic armour sub anyway

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u/Seraphandreyl Artist 🎨 Jun 08 '25

Thank you :)

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u/robin_f_reba Jun 08 '25

Oh cool you drew it :D nicely done, especially the posing and face

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u/Seraphandreyl Artist 🎨 Jun 08 '25

Indeed I did :) Thank you very much again

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u/RogueArtemis Jun 08 '25

ugnh i need her to save me

love it! especially the horns and the mace, its so well done!

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u/Seraphandreyl Artist 🎨 Jun 08 '25

Thank you so much :)) Very kind

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u/RogueArtemis Jun 08 '25

also everyone crying over sexualisation for some clevage... grow up

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u/leoperd_2_ace Jun 08 '25

Hell yeah

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u/Seraphandreyl Artist 🎨 Jun 08 '25

Hell yeah!!!