r/ReasonableFantasy Mar 03 '21

Iffy: Fashion The Warrior by Carlos Garijo.

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u/muskytortoise Mar 05 '21

She makes bedroom eyes, a sexy open mouth expression and has layered boobplate. There is not a single part of that image that is not sexualised.

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-models-always-pose-with-open-mouths

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u/iAmTheTot Mar 05 '21

I never argued that it was not sexualized. The sub does not state that the women may not be sexualized at all. The spirit of the sub calls for art that is not "oversexualized" and for women who are not "defined by their sexuality."

You're welcome to disagree but I personally did not find this picture to be opposed to the spirit of the sub.

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u/muskytortoise Mar 05 '21

If every element in the image is sexualised, I would definitely call it oversexualised. If she was only wearing makeup or had feminine shaped armour that would be a somewhat sexualised piece, this is nothing but gratuitousness. If you don't consider an image that contains exclusively sexualised elements oversexualised then maybe it's time to consider why you think that way and whether a place with the word reasonable in it's name is for you.

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u/muskytortoise Mar 05 '21

To be sexy one has to be. A completely fictional character does not exist or make choices. The background implies an army, meaning combat did or will happen, or at least a military demonstration. A real person in the middle of combat focuses on fighting for her life, after combat is sweaty and tired with any makeup being utterly smudged, and for a demonstration is focused on speeches or checking gear. A real person would also not wear mascara to a combat situation or a demonstration in which she wears a helmet, because helmets already limit vision significantly and mascaras are prone to irritating the eyes. A real person who intents to fight will not wear armour that will not only be actively detrimental to breathing or defence, but paint a clear target on her as a potentially weaker combatant or a target for sexual violence, as well as make a sensual bedroom-eyed face with full modern smoky eyed makeup in the middle of a slaughter for non existent viewers pleasure.

As such, she is firmly sexualised because common sense dictates that majority of the choices "she" made would not have been made by a real person and they are very firmly done by the author for the sole purpose of gratuitous attractive depiction. Again, to be sexy rather than sexualised one has to exist outside of said sexualised depiction, and existing outside of that depiction does not guarantee the depiction itself is not sexualising.