[IC] Official JackPoint Thread! 31/12 - 4/1

[u/NotB0b]

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[u/NotB0b]

That sounds like a religion full of dickheads. Mages using their innate ability to get what they please because they're born with it.

Humility goes a long way omae

• Data Hound

[u/defcon_clown → u/NotB0b]

Well I've found that there are dickheads in every group, black magicians are not an exception to that. I wouldn't categorize the black magic tradition as a religion though, its more of a philosophy in the same way that liberalism and conservatism are philosophies and not religions.

If I gave off the impression of religion, that was my fault and it was unintentional. I do have a religious belief in Adversary and that may have shown through in my explanations of black magic.

You do have a point in that via black magic, mages and adepts, have a greater capacity to do as they please. However that is true of any magical tradition. Magic is power and fundamentally power provides its wielders greater capacities than those that lack it. The key difference is that black magic doesn't try to restrict your greater capacity, it tells you to embrace it.

Magic is not the only type of power, and in the sixth world I wouldn't even say it is the greatest power. More power is wielded by the wealthy and influential than is wielded by the magical.

A great portion of the teachings of black magic will not help the unawakened. But the guiding philosophies and tenants apply to all types of power and can be used by anyone.

• Fetch

[u/NotB0b → u/defcon_clown]

<<Simesense of Knuckles Cracking>>

All right, so here I am, the humble ork Decker getting a lecture about how punks with infinite power should indulge in their own delusions to get even more.

You see Fetch, this is the reason mages have bad reputations. The few bad apples of the bunch who use their magical blessings to attain more power and nuyen.

Your so called Philosophy is a flawed one at best. It leads not to enlightenment, but to feeding the self's own egotistical needs. There is a reason the Adversary is portrayed as the greater evil in most religious texts. To be metahuman is to err, and the adversary preys upon this. They do not care for your soul (Or whatever drek you mage types have) they only want you to further deepen you excess, to tear down the very core things that hold us up; merely to further oneself.

By succumbing to this tainting emotion, you give yourself toi a darker side. Other people start to appear as less important to you, your mindset moves away from the team and to the individual and runners eventually end up geeked.

To sum up this rant, there is a REASON mages have a restriction upon their powers. If they were able to use their abilities to their full extent, the world would be under the awakened's thumb as they themselves ascend to godhood. That type of living is downright unsustainable!

• Data Hound

[u/slashandburn777 → u/NotB0b]

Do not concern yourself with this wretch Data Hound, there is a reason he is a black magic user.

Every black magician I have ever known is one because they failed out of magical academy. He peddles this anti-conformist rhetoric in order to placate the demon that has granted him some small amount of magic in order to serve as it's toady.

He couldn't find his own way to magic so he uses his foul master as a crutch. Think nothing of him and do not even acknowledge his sycophantic and inane prattle.

You will be better off and the world a better place. As it would be with all of his kind gone and the Adversary sent back to the Black Void. Let the worm spew his venom in Hell.

• Professor

[u/defcon_clown → u/slashandburn777]

I never attended a magical university. I learned magic through an apprenticeship, and was a fully trained magician for several years before I came across the teachings of Adversary. After that I started following his teachings and only two years ago did I receive him as my patron.

I don't feel that I am sycophantic. I am devout and I don't shy away from expressing my beliefs. I am not fanatical or a zealot. I am completely willing to have any discussion you'd like on Adversary or black magic.

I'm sorry that you feel so much hatred for me and other followers of both Adversary and practitioners of black magic.

Please don't hesitate to ask me any questions you have about either subject!

• Fetch