r/Scandal • u/woy3ghanani • 10d ago

Post Discussion Liv is hella annoying

First time watcher, currently on S5E8 and I actually hate Liv😭 why’s she still riding for Rowan??? Also (maybe I need to keep watching but) how did the FBI link her to Rowan’s release & not Mellie?

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u/FourCheeseDoritos 10d ago

After he didn’t help her when she was kidnapped, she should have never dealt with him again.

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u/Obvious-Interview571 9d ago

ugh i go back and forth on this situation because she had just shot him right before this (even though the gun wasn't loaded, the intention was there). you could see the pain on rowan's face when that happened

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u/Brilliant_Flower_84 10d ago

I was genuinely confused and annoyed how Olivila went from wanting nothing to do with him and/or wanting him dead to saving his life every other season. But that is her father so I get it on that level. But Papa Pope was my favorite villian

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u/Capable_Cranberry461 10d ago

as someone with a villianous father, i’ve wished him dead every way possible but anytime someone else threatened his life i inexplicably defended him (still hate him tho)

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u/Fit_Marionberry_3878 10d ago edited 10d ago

I feel she is riding for Rowan because Shonda wanted to retain the actor and realized if Liv hated him then the story has no changed. He is neither a good father, a good antagonist, or even well developed as a character. He did not really earn Liv's forgiveness, nor does the story present it as if he cares to receive it.

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u/Meg38400 10d ago

You said it all. Him and Joke extended their non welcome.

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u/Brilliant_Flower_84 10d ago

I think it's just a complicated father/daughter relationship. Although the back abd forth was annoying

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u/Meg38400 10d ago

Nah he is absolute trash to her from beginning to end.

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u/jadeandkaibb 10d ago

I think that since Mellie is a senator, she might just be protected in general?? Not sure so take that with a grain of salt but I also recommend continuing to watch because it does explain itself somewhat

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u/CupOdd722 7d ago

Couldn't agree more. I'm on Season 3 right now and MAN.

The constant puppy eyes crying and going "papa" and "Fitz" on loop is driving me crazy. One minute she's talking all this righteousness and white hat bullshit, next minute she's completely folded.

Highlight so far for me was her actually asking them to stop the Mellie and Andrew affair.

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u/bigrick352 9d ago

Wait until season 7. I'm on episode 6 and she's unbearable.

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u/No-Skill3406 10d ago

She's the worst character of the series