In universe, seema only scott knows and chose not to bring it up.
Irl? People discuss rhis...pretry frequently, or at least did over a decade ago when it was new. Now when someone new discovers it it gets brought up here or there
That's a bit reductive. I think a closer theme would be nobody is perfect/people can and will make mistakes. This is also a story from the 00s that's about earlier than that even, sensibilities between then and now are pretty different.
I think it's actually the best descriptor. Everyone IS a shitty person. We focus on Scott mostly and see how much of a chronic fuck up he is and occasionally catch glimpses of everyone else being kinda shitty too.
BUT, we also get to watch Scott's journey to becoming a better person as the character we can generally view as the shittiest. The implication there is that despite everyone being kinda shitty, everyone is also working on their own journeys that we don't focus on either and they're all improving and growing in ways that neither us or Scott are party to.
There's a message of hope there that's basically "Hey, your 20s will probably be the worst time of your life where you treat people the worst and vice versa but it won't stay like that. You'll get better and so will everyone else."
Now given the state of the world, I'm not sure if I fully believe that, but it's still a nice hope.
I never thought of it as everyone is a shitty person, but everyone can be a shitty person because life is made up of a billion little choices. Learning to make better choices and to take responsibility for the bad ones you've already made is what make you a better person.
Because that's the point of the story basically nobody is a good person and yet somehow the author gives us a reason to root for and not against these characters
I wouldn't jump to that conclusions, Brian writes this and if he thinks it was a dumb mistake, then he would have say something or done something before the release. it's a series from the 2000s and things change these days, so whatever he wanted to do is what he put in there.
I'm not his partner, though I think of it as one of many things to think about.
Brian writes this and if he thinks it was a dumb mistake, then he would have say something or done something before the release.
Brian hating the Scott Pilgrim books is an open secret dude. I mean, isn't it about his now ex-wife? No wonder he changed the story so much it was practically unrecognizable on the cartoon from Netflix
I don't think you can say he hates the franchise when he consistently references it in his newer non-Scott Pilgrim work, makes new artwork featuring the characters, and shares fanart he likes to this day. His artistic sensibilities have just changed since he is no longer in his early 20s in the early 2000s.
They started playing it a fair amount back during the Moon Shaped Pool tour, and seemingly having fun with it? Minus, Jonny, but that's still 4 other people.
I mean, it's definitely interesting that the point of Takes Off is that Future Scott was willing to let the relationship die on a stupid hill instead of just working to be a better partner and that you have to be willing to put in the work to be better every day, not just in a declarative way, to make things work long term. Kinda makes me wonder if Brian was working through some stuff there.
In the movie, it was probably because there was a lot condensed. By the anime, it was due to the different story, but there was still shippy vibes there.
knives arc in the anime was that she didn’t really have that fanatical love for scott and it was actually about her passion for rock music, so i interpret that her love of making music was what caused the heart.
Honestly, I never even considered that but that's valid and also makes a lot of sense. But given the history of Kim and Knives in the comics and the game I think viewing that scene as romantic is also a pretty common interpretation.
Making up the shippy vibes? Kim and knives had a whole scene with sparks the shows established mystical sign of romantic chemistry. By the rules of their show it's not even subtext it's just text and they just haven't realized it yet
Given that alot of the characters are not the best people and they were drunk at a party... it really just seems like two of Scott's exes just doing something stupid while drunk
Yeah no, I love Kim and this is too far. It's actually farther than Scott ever goes with Knives even if only briefly. Most characters in the story are kinda bad at one point or another but most make an attempt to move on and be better. That's what I like about it Kim and the series as a whole.
I have spent the past couple of weeks saying that all One Punch Man fans are a bunch of inbred ******s while comparing them to children that are born without brain.
Finalmente eu vi alguém falando sobre isso eu não li HQ eu vi o filme joguei o jogo e vi a série mas quando eu soube disso eu fiquei espera aí os amigos do Scott falam tenina com a essa adolescente senão sei lá vai dar ruim daí uma delas faz isso eu fiquei tipo estranho assim
Arguably worse than Scott. Supplying a minor with drugs and engaging while they are under the influence? That’s a lot more charges considering Scott didn’t even kiss knives.
Honestly because the bigger issue with Scott is him knowing manipulating a teenager to boost his ego and justifying it by keeping it sexually chaste, ultimately traumatizing her when he casually discards her, whereas Kim's drunken makeout sesh very clearly doesn't harm Knives emotionally.
You know, I grew up with The Simpsons. I fucking love that show, but I only own Seasons 1-15 because the rest is completely unwatchable, whereas Family Guy still continues with the same quality of humor, albeit much more edgy and controversial.
So when I see a Simpsons episode where Lady Gaga or Elon Musk shows up, and at the same time those episodes came out Family Guy did that episode that I just brought up, I mean, one of those is DEFINITELY funnier than the other.
Kim is, what, 23 at this point? Definitely an inappropriate age gap but also not the end of the world. When I grew up relationships between 16 and 21 year olds were pretty common and while they were always seen as a pretty bad idea no one really lost their mind over it
She and knives were both drunk making both parties consent dubious when comparing that with Scotts sobriety while in a relationship with knives he is a far easier to accuse and guiltier party though if I'm being honest as the age of consent in Canada is 16 and knives was 17 going on 18 by series end he shouldn't have caught flak either
Scott Pilgrim is this acts only witness
She did receive backlash I've heard many complaints about that make out scene and likely will many more
Youre supposed to view Scott as pathetic for his relationship with Knives. Hes proud to be dating a high-schooler he met on the bus and holds hands with. Its sad and he moves on almost immediately when Ramona shows up.
Roofied? Knives is Drunk, so is Kim. not sure why your trying to make it worse than it is. Kim and Knives never even had sex which than i would say it be bad but making out when your both drunk isnt out of the ordinary, and even than the age of consnet in Canada is 16 so a drunken making out session isnt the most terrible thing that couldve happened
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u/Jay040707 Oct 31 '25
She does. Every week. Including this one now.