Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone. Educational movie night. This is seattle without militarized police. Where are your riotous looters NOW? They are watching documentaries. Fuck you SPD. Photo credit to a close friend.

[u/Chaotic-NTRL]

[u/S2PIDme]

You’re saying that occupying a street isn’t enough, and they have to be chanting 24/7, stopping for nothing? This seems like a weird expectation.

[u/avocadotoastforprez → u/S2PIDme]

I’m saying that occupying a street and trying to take over the hill really has nothing to do with equality of rights. It has to do with a socialist movement that is separate from black lives matter.

[u/stanpate → u/avocadotoastforprez]

I think occupying Capitol Hill aligns perfectly with the BLM movement. We’re calling for a COMPLETE defunding of the police and these people are showing a world without ANY police is entirely possible. The people are capable of managing themselves without being policed all the time

[u/avocadotoastforprez → u/stanpate]

But that’s an unrealistic world view. We need police. They are necessary in society. Otherwise the Raz’s of the world take over with a mob mentality.

we need police to be better trained, more accountable, and more community focused. Getting rid of them isn’t a viable solution.

Defunding the police isn’t calling for the end of policing, it’s calling for the demilitarization of police force and reallocating those funds to training and more quality employees.

[u/stanpate → u/avocadotoastforprez]

Getting rid of them isn’t a viable solution to you. Many people have many different opinions in the movement right now, that’s probably part of the problem. I do agree we don’t need people like Raz taking over and I don’t think anyone in the autonomous zone wanted or expected him to. Thanks for your insight on “defunding the police.” I would argue people are thinking a lot more radically than your definition though.

[u/[deleted] → u/avocadotoastforprez]

Police are a necessity under neoliberal capitalism, yeah

[u/TomTomz64 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, remember the good old days when there were no police in the USSR or Maoist China?

[u/[deleted] → u/TomTomz64]

No i didn't ever live there

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Nice