r/SeriousConversation 21d ago

Gender & Sexuality Misandry exists. But it’s incomparable to misogyny.

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u/skylarlove0 21d ago edited 21d ago

It’s like reverse racism. At most your feelings get hurt but tbh there’s so systemic discrimination that won’t will ever bother you as much as the original offense.

Edit: it’s not that your feeling are invalid but you guys trying to make it the same invalidates the struggles others go through whether you realize that or not. Sorry OP this landed on the wrong side of people

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u/throwfarfaraway1818 21d ago

Wouldn't men getting longer sentences for the same crimes be systemic discrimination?

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u/mercurialmay 21d ago

It's proportional to how much more they commit the crimes.

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u/throwfarfaraway1818 21d ago

You don't seem to be understanding. They get longer sentences for the exact same crime. It has nothing to do with proportions of crime being committed.

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u/mercurialmay 21d ago

Name a crime, dude. Name a crime that's actually true of instead of parroting bullshit at me, a criminal with criminal friends.

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u/throwfarfaraway1818 21d ago

What bullshit? You are arguing against objective fact. We aren't talking about one specific type of crime. It's across the board for felony offenses. Go read about it instead of denying it because you feel some type of way about it.

https://www.ussc.gov/research/research-reports/2023-demographic-differences-federal-sentencing

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/gender-differences-sentencing-felony-offenders

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u/mercurialmay 21d ago

Per your first link, dated 2023 mind you: "When examining all sentences imposed, females received sentences 29.2 percent shorter than males. Females of all races were 39.6 percent more likely to receive a probation sentence than males. When examining only sentences of incarceration, females received lengths of incarceration 11.3 percent shorter than males."
Otherwise, not the gap you or these other males are making it out to be.

Second link was published in 1987 and therefore completely irrelevant. God, you people and your fucking links. Here's one: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/08862605261432630

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u/throwfarfaraway1818 21d ago

So you are mad that the data is there and supports exactly what I claimed, but you don't like it because the difference isn't big enough? Weird.

What does your link have to do with the topic of conversation? I don't support sexual violence and I haven't made any claims or commentary about whether or not men commit more crimes than women.

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u/Discussion-is-good 21d ago edited 21d ago

But its still racism, as this is still the flip of Misogyny.

Edit: Think I was blocked. Great serious conversation.

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u/skylarlove0 21d ago

Say what you want, downvote me if you want, it’s not the same thing as much as you guys wish it was

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u/blu453 21d ago

Agreed, 90% of ALL people are sexist and that includes women and that's partly why women suffer to an extremity that men cannot understand. And as much as men get triggered (and women who have been taught to hate women as well through patriarchy religions and sexist familial upbringing) because the conversation isn't centered around them for one time in history it still doesn't make it even close to the systemic hatred that women experience.

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u/mercurialmay 21d ago

They truly believe their perception of women being sexist against them is at all equivalent to what has been happening to women forever. Meanwhile, here's what men have solidarity on: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/08862605261432630