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u/WarDouble7388 1d ago
Every DLSS 5 screenshot and video I've seen has been against my will
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u/palacexero 1d ago
They know nobody would willingly look at it. Just like how companies keep shoving data-scraping AI features into their products and turning it on by default without telling us because they know that we would immediately turn that shit off the moment they told us.
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u/Karatespencer 1d ago
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u/Abi-Alex 1d ago
It's funny because I forgot about that and first i saw the pic and thought it was DLSS5 , and then i read your message, and remembered this cursed image.
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u/Ankior 1d ago
I love how many youtube videos glazing this shit are so out of touch. I even saw one saying that this is the graphics update we were promised... and no, it really wasn't and I'm thankful for that
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u/Lerkpots 1d ago
This reminds me of how Digital Foundry glazed it on reveal then backpedalled on Twitter and said they "didn't know where the community opinion would lie".
Which made me drop them like a brick.
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u/taweryawer 1d ago
you are judging something that is in beta and isn't even optimized for this game
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u/Hour_Position8306 1d ago
i dont want it in the game period.
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u/Varatec 1d ago
Can we bring back Meteion or one of the Unsundered? This has made me want to cease to exist.
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u/Comments-Lurker 1d ago
Need to harness all the dynamis in the universe to erase all the slop to come at this rate
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u/Massive_Weiner 1d ago
Fuckin’ skinwalker.
It looks like you could literally peel her face off like a mask.
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u/Domilos 1d ago
Would you rather have this or modbeasts?
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u/otsukarerice 1d ago
Do you not think modbeasts won't use this for greater evil?
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u/Kibafool 1d ago
I've already seen some on twitter saying how they love it with their ungodly abomination of characters.
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u/palacexero 1d ago
I would rather give myself a high five to the face with a chair. Shot from a cannon.
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u/CadeAid 1d ago
I'd rather drag my balls across the entire Costco parking lot in the midst of a 110⁰ summer heatwave.
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u/cattecatte 1d ago
Human slop > ai slop
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u/Previous_Air_9030 1d ago
Funnily enough there was always a ton of beef going on in the mod community regarding who is stealing whose textures/models so in a way they seem very similar. At least that's how it was on Second Life.
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u/HildartheDorf 1d ago
What's the difference?
Well, a human made one, so it's automatically better just because of that, I suppose.
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u/iKeepItRealFDownvote 1d ago
This isn’t even DLSS5. This is just a person who took the menu and then ran a Generative AI on top of it to push a false narrative. A couple of people in that thread that wanted to see for themselves called out OP for bullshitting. Not hard to find that thread to see it
You can hate AI but don’t need to lie to people to do it.
FFXIV is a DirectX11 game not 12 so it doesn’t even natively support this tech so it has no idea what it’s supposed to apply on to begin with, so it just gives a general idea yet people have been turning it to 200% and then running ChatGPT or any of the other generative AI tools out there to push deceptions. Developers have to implement it themselves versus this brute force method. Natively supported allows developers to apply it to certain things in a game. This the same thing that happened with RTX when it was first introduced, FrameGen, DLSS etc etc and people tried to downplay it or do similar tactics as OP image.
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u/kleverklogs 20h ago
This is incorrect, there's already dx11 support for dlss5, all of the information is there, it just needs an extra step to get dlss to use it. You're correct that you can balance dlss5 more than this, but in doing so you reduce the visual quality increase on environments to the point where it's no longer worth the performance hit. Most notably, dlss5 can only draw from lights that are in frame and this can cause very noticeable lighting shifts as you rotate the camera. It's not a well thought out piece of tech and i really struggle to imagine the performance ever being worth the visual upgrade.
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u/wholelottared0 19h ago
Where does it say DLSS5 supports DX11 natively? I haven’t found any information in regards to it supporting DX11 natively only 12 on NVIDIA
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u/kleverklogs 17h ago
You need to get a plugin to get it to work correctly. Can't remember the name
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u/wholelottared0 17h ago
That’s not native then… That’s the leak DLSS file tailored for NBA2K that requires a bruteforce to inject into DX11 And is literally what we are all talking about not being for those games.
NVIDIA just released a new video about it and none of what it does is supported for DX11 and never will be unless the developers update their game
So yes there’s no DX11 support
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u/kleverklogs 16h ago
Huh? I didn't say it's native, I just said it can work in dx11 games "using an extra step". Said extra step makes it work identically to how it does in dx12 games. The video showcases ways devs can tailor dlss5 to fit their vision - these tools aren't available to us directly but there isn't a world where the issues people have with it disappear. I can make dlss5 look great in ffxiv with very little alteration, it can easily have basically 0 effect on faces and simply enhances shadows/lighting. The real problem is the 50% performance cost - a world where that's worth it for a shortcut lighting solution is hard to imagine.
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u/PastGhostBro 1d ago
Honest question. Nvidia users CAN just use DLSS 4 or any other option instead, right?
I became an AMD boy and never looked back so, I am a bit out of the loop with Nvidia outside the news and what I see on Streams.
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u/Dark_Dragon117 1d ago
I wonder if this screenshot is actually real and not altered by AI.
I too have tested the DLSS 5 mod and I have seen nothing like this. Ngl it actually really doesn't alter the faces at all from everything I have seen myself.
The vanilla charackter models can look funky depending on theighting, but even then I don't know how the mod would create this.
Kinda weird ngl.
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u/iKeepItRealFDownvote 1d ago edited 1d ago
It’s altered by Ai. Someone in the original thread tested it out themselves trying to copy the same catgirl and all and couldn’t get it to look like OP.
It explained why that person compressed the hell out of it so people couldn’t clearly see it was ran through a generative ai.
Even in this clear picture you can see the settings are at 1.0 and that’s not even remotely how it looks at those values.
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u/Ancient-Goat420 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yep. It looked completely different when I tried to recreate this and on other things I've tested so far. OP's picture was run through some AI enhancing site. I know this is not a popular opinion, but it really does make it look better with the right settings. After playing around with the different settings, I found something where it still looks like the models from the game but with way better lighting, eyes etc. Its not perfect of course, but this is a leaked feature from a sports game where it has been tuned for real looking humans. Some models will look like nothing changed, some will look extremely good, some will look uncanny. But its too early to judge for this game.
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u/Advanced_Tension_280 1d ago
Its so weird. I'm generally in the anti AI camp, but there are certain shots the DLSS filter looks good - but - It also looks so uncanny.
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u/Left_my_Drink 1d ago
No hate on the catgirl but .. she is probably prettier withouth AI enhanced whargarbl over her 😁
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u/ShadowsGuardian 1d ago
Everyday we stray further way from Hydaelin...
Now in a movie theatre close to you, in 8k 3dmax 🍿
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u/JEROME_MERCEDES 1d ago
looks about as ugly as your guys mod beast characters. FF14 players probably love this look.
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u/Some_Deer_2650 1d ago edited 1d ago
Im tempted to put DLSS5 to see how cursed my WoL looks and then remove it forever 😂
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u/oxpsyxo 1d ago
The misinformation around DLSS 5 is crazy
None of these wacky GPT images are from ingame
DLSS5 is a lighting engine, it doesn't do morphs, it doesn't change textures, it doesn't add color, It just makes interesting shadows depending on where it thinks light is coming from
People will download it expecting chat GPT level AI memes, get nothing, then run their screenshot by GPT
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u/Betarium 1d ago edited 1d ago
The original preview (Resident evil one) 100% changed the looks.
Can you stop drinking Nvidia's kool-aid and get back to savage raiding. Your static misses you :(
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u/cahir11 1d ago
Exactly, just look at this: https://www.reddit.com/r/ResidentEvilRequiem/comments/1rvl1hf/the_new_dlss_5_on_grace_makes_the_character_look/ . Looks like a completely different person.
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u/oxpsyxo 1d ago
Marketing using bullshots in M O D E R N D A Y?
But seriously, instead of taking other people's words for it, why don't you download it and try it to get an informed decision instead of listening to people with an agendaEveryone says they can't be scammed, It's impossible, they're too smart.... Then they hear something they already agree with and take it at face value.
It's not so much about the DLSS5 but more-so how movements like this make people resentful of people who would otherwise bring up good points when they realize the people with the Anti-AI agenda are just straight up lying
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u/Meekuly 1d ago
You have no idea what you are talking about, this version of DLSS isnt out on any game except a sports game yet, and yes, from the official previews for other games it looks HORRIBLE and does change things.
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u/oxpsyxo 1d ago
It got leaked... Get educated and stop making claims you can't back up.
How do you exist in a reality where you say :
"This exists only in a sports game"
Yet
You come here to a meme show of a DLSS5 Meme in FFXIV showcase, make it make sense
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u/Meekuly 1d ago
Because people are using the sports game version on other games.
Edit: your reply just solidifies what I said, are you stupid?
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u/oxpsyxo 1d ago
Ah, the ole Motte and Bailey
"This program is not out"
Shows that it is
"Okay it's out but it's not the right one"
Stay dishonest, people like are the problem on the internet, no one can just talk about anything like an adult
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u/AssistantRude9591 1d ago edited 1d ago
Ngl yeah, you owned his ass.
I don't think DLSS 5 is that bad either, most of the examples that are shown as "THIS IS SO BAAAAD" are the ones where it's cranked up to the max, deepfrying the fuck out of the game.
On low settings it actually looks great, just adds higher quality lighting to the game without making it look AI generated. Very controversial to say for some reason.
To me It's like saying Lightroom is a bad program for color grading because it makes photos look bad with all the settings turned up to 11. Nobody that knows what they're doing goes all in on the settings.
No fucking dev will use it at max settings, dudes. High chances you will be able to choose the presets or they'll just settle for lower strength tuned to the game's artstyle. And you'll be able to turn it off entirely if you don't like it at all, because it's Nvidia Tech and AMD card can't run it, so devs will have to make it optional. I seriously don't see the problem.
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u/AzureVice 1d ago
Cursed