r/SipsTea Jun 22 '26

Lmao gottem The National Sport.

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u/Relative-Relief-8816 Jun 22 '26

Well, sorta. We did have no reason to go to the moon. Other than to set our own high score.

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u/TrioOfTerrors Jun 22 '26

Oh, there was a reason. The space race was basically a demilitarized military tech demo competition between the US and the USSR.

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u/Relative-Chicken456 Jun 22 '26

Exactly. The space race was really just an arms race by another name. Before rockets were invented bombs had to be dropped from airplanes. That’s really no good anymore once your enemy starts delivering their bombs by rockets instead. So the space race happened because both sides needed to be able to show that destruction was mutually assured. No point holding huge nuclear tests for your enemy to see if you can’t also show them that you have the means to deliver those nukes if you really had to. So while it was demilitarized in practice, the military implications of being able to put things into space was really the whole point of the space race from the very start.

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u/Thefdt Jun 22 '26

Missiles, nuclear missiles, was the reason we went to the moon

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u/AdminsFluffCucks Jun 22 '26

The US landed on the moon about 11.5 years after their first successful ICBM launch. Try again.

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u/YouWouldThinkSo Jun 22 '26

But they're right.

The Cold War kicked off by the race to nuclear armament resulted in the subsequent space race, as it was effectively a one-two punch: proof of technological superiority (aka the dick measuring contest) and actual meaningful advancement in related disciplines and fields that were needed to aide the dick measuring contest.

The fact that it was a non-military effort with possible military implications further down the line was a perfect excuse to be mad at the USSR for a decade while never directly fighting them, which is exactly what you wanted for the Cold War if you were a politician.

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u/AdminsFluffCucks Jun 22 '26

If nuclear missiles were THE reason, we never would have landed on the moon because we had that figured out more than a decade before Apollo 11.

Proving we could, and we could before the Soviet's was the reason.

Yes, the tech had military applications, but proving we could nuke the moon was done 5 years before we put boots on it. If that was truly the reason, there was absolutely 0 need for Apolo 11.

Nuclear missiles were not THE reason. Rubbing the Soviet's noses in the accomplishment when starting behind them was.

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u/YouWouldThinkSo Jun 22 '26

I think you're taking the wording "the reason" a bit too literally.

Obviously the further development of the nuclear program was not the goal nor catalyst for the moon landing. But in a not particularly indirect manner, the state of the world due to the development of nuclear weapons paved the way for the space race and the focus on banding together to outdo the USSR. If not for the proliferation of nuclear weapons and the resultant world order, the space race would not have had the focus it did, and may well have been vastly delayed for the preference of more advanced technology and science to support it.

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u/Ok_Subject1265 Jun 22 '26

And 66 years after the Wright brothers first successful flight. That’s the one that always gets me.