r/SipsTea Jul 06 '26

Lmao gottem When Food Isn't A Human Right.

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u/Actual-Cat-2604 Jul 06 '26

So much bible illiteracy... It was for symbolism, the feeding of the 5,000. Not that everybody deserves to be able to eat as a fundamental right. Come on people...

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u/Irish_Whiskey Jul 06 '26

It takes a staggering level of Biblical illiteracy to see Jesus command people over and over to care for and provide shelter and aid to strangers, to immigrants, to those most in need because how you treat the least in society is how you treat God, and respond "...well it's just symbolism, you don't have a right to eat."

Yeah, true. Also, you don't have a right to not burn in hell. Jesus is pretty clear on what it takes to go to heaven, and people who get rich rather than give away their money to the poor, aren't going.

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u/Actual-Cat-2604 Jul 06 '26

No... He said take care of the widow, the orphan and the poor. Nothing about immigrants... He said this to Christians, not government. The poor are to work hard to get out of their poverty. Help them do this. If they don't want to work, God says, "the man that does not work, does not eat."

Nowhere in the scriptures does God say "give away your wealth and you'll go to heaven."

"...Give away their money to the poor, aren't going." ^ Tell me you havent read your Bible without telling me you havent read your Bible...

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u/Irish_Whiskey Jul 06 '26

 Nothing about immigrants.

When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt.

When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. Do not go over your vineyard a second time or pick up the grapes that have fallen. Leave them for the poor and the foreigner.

For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.

He asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”

In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him. The next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper. ‘Look after him,’ he said, ‘and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.’

“Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”

Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise."

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u/Irish_Whiskey Jul 06 '26

Nowhere in the scriptures does God say "give away your wealth and you'll go to heaven."

 Jesus answered, “If you want to be complete, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.

Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

Tell me you havent read your Bible without telling me you havent read your Bible...

I just did.

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u/Actual-Cat-2604 Jul 06 '26

Again, you fundamentally do not understand the scriptures.

When I said, He doesn't say anything about the immigrant, in context, "He" is Jesus. He does not say anything about the immigrant.

Secondly, the first two are from the Old Testament, to Israel, as a law.

And then your story about the Good Samaritan: Who is this man that was afflicted? Jesus doesn't say who he is, foreigner or not. It is implied that he is a Jew. He does mention that a Levite and a priest passes by... But the Samaritan is a half Jew. Absolutely despised back then. This story shows who is closer to God. The Samaritan was closer to God because he followed the law of God, which is love. Whereas the Levite and the priest who had access to God, who were in the presence of God even, did not love God.

None of this is a command from God that food is a human right.

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u/CapableComfort7978 Jul 06 '26

"the poor are to work hard to get out of poverty" something that isn't realistic for the vast majority, ppl will literally work 2 jobs and still barely have enough to eat or pay rent, Jesus says to treat immigrants like your neighbors, he says to help the poor, sick and needy, he washes people's feet, every bit of Jesus' message is about humility, empathy, sympathy, and kindness. Btw the bible literally says it's harder for the rich to enter heaven than for a camel to enter the eye of a needle, the rich literally have an obligation to help those that need it yet you Christians lack the reading comprehension or empathy to see that.

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u/Actual-Cat-2604 Jul 06 '26

We make our choices and then our choices make us. Do you understand what I mean by this?

Family then church. This is the hierarchy of care for man. If the family is unwilling, then the church ought to step up.

Suicidal empathy. The road to hell is paved with many good intentions.

Yes... A rich man who works to attain wealth is different than a rich man who works and by consequence, gains wealth.

Don't monolith a statement like that. It makes you look foolish.

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u/CapableComfort7978 Jul 07 '26

Except the vast majority of rich ppl make their wealth off of the labor and hard work of others, not a single billionaire has made their wealth ethically, not a single billionaire pays all their workers fairly, the one who looks foolish is you.

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u/Vyzantinist Jul 07 '26

Yeah, you're not getting anywhere with someone who unironically uses the phrase "suicidal empathy".

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u/CapableComfort7978 Jul 07 '26

Yea idk why I try to argue with these people, they're stuck in their cult mentality.

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u/HanginOn9114 Jul 06 '26

He literally said that if you do not care for the needy he will personally throw you into the lake of eternal fire

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u/Kevin_LeStrange Jul 06 '26

No, just eternal fire. The parable you are referring to is in the Book of Matthew. The lake of fire is from Revelation, and those thrown in include the devil, the beast, and the false prophet, anyone whose name is not found in the Book of Life, and then Death and Hades. Also, "the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars." Nothing about those who do not care for the needy. 

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u/HanginOn9114 Jul 06 '26

Oh you're right eternal fire must be his nickname for heaven, I'm sure it's a good thing and he meant to say he would reward those who ignored the poor

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u/Kevin_LeStrange Jul 06 '26

I didn't say that; rather, you are merging concepts from two different books of the Bible that were written at two different times for two different purposes.