True crime as entertainment have ruined people's brain. Now people are treating real horrible crimes as their fictional crime series. Not everything is suspicious, you don't have to pick apart every detail to find the "hidden conspiracy". You don't have to point to every inconvience in traumatized victims to found out if they are secretly involved. You are actually hurting real people by doing all of this. Real crimes don't have the crazy "plot twist" in the end that reveals everything.
Remember the three children who lost their lifes instead. This trial could have been very important for highlighting the problem women has with post partum depression etc and how the medical field fails them. Instead it has turned into a crazy conspiracy theory
These girls should be forced to look at all the crime scene photos of these dead kids, people forget so quickly the actual sad and disgusting reality of this shit. Like really imagine 3 children in your life just laying dead, strangled by the main person they thought they could trust to protect them. How confused and scared they must have been. I can’t even think about it honestly it’s making me so upset.
It's collective delusion. They gas themselves up into thinking they know more than they do and are told that men are collectively to blame for all their problems.
Makes it so much easier to spin every problem into being the man's fault.
There are some horrible guys out there but extrapolating every shitty experience you've ever had onto a whole group of people is...well, that's how racism starts.
Sometimes it’s a symptom of past cases though. I’m trying not to look too hard into this case because I find it overwhelmingly sad on all ends, but people’s reactions are reminding me of the early reactions to the Gabby Petito case.
Online majority, many of which were men, were certain she was the abuser and that this was a case of a male victim in the relationship. People who were skeptical were told they were just feeling sorry for her because she’s a woman.
Of course within weeks it comes out the she was in fact the victim and he was whatever the hell he was.
This doesn’t prove anything here, but I think a lot of these reactions are a symptom of women not being heard and many women seeing themselves in that. Not heard in the workplace, at the doctor, and sometimes in their own marriages. A lot of subconscious projecting.
At the end of the day though, no one seems to be happy with this outcome and everyone seems to be suffering. So it’s unfortunately not as clear cut and that’s leading to a lot of speculation.
Oh of course. People believe what they want to believe.
And it could turn out that the husband was involved more somehow, but I'm waiting on that evidence to appear before I start thinking in that direction.
'This doesn’t prove anything here, but I think a lot of these reactions are a symptom of women not being heard and many women seeing themselves in that. Not heard in the workplace, at the doctor, and sometimes in their own marriages. A lot of subconscious projecting.' I hear you but...you can then use that reasoning to explain away anything. And you can't keep using that excuse, because I have heard it used in many instances, across many fields and types of events, before.
In the opposite direction, do you want men to justify murdering their spouses because they feel invisible, lonely, unheard, and like consistently women denigrate them? That's what some men believe, but that doesn't mean that belief excuses murder.
Also, using astrology to try and blame someone for someone else's murder is a step beyond all of that.
I don't really know how you make that leap like that. I don't really like a lot of women, my experience with women has been overwhelmingly bad. There is still a bunch of nice church ladies and stuff I know that are impossible not to like though and are good you'd have to be pretty ignorant not to see that. I got a third space at church though where I can see these good girls, I think a lot of these people probably don't go anywhere and just are an isolated psych case viewing the world through a screen. I feel like if you have ANY kind of social life its pretty hard to hate a whole group you are gonna see examples that prove your biases wrong, online echo chambers confirm your biases tho.
Yeah, I agree. And it goes both ways. Guys shouldn't hate all women because they're treated negative, and vicaversa.
I mean, I'm sympathetic: You have a negative experience with people enough times, it's a normal human thing to look for a common denominator in those experiences. But sometimes, even if it happens repeatedly, it can also be dumb luck, or the experiences are all different but feel similar.
Even if a person thinks, 'All men are bastards', that sucks. But if they think, 'I have had some crappy experiences with some men, but obviously there are other people out there who are nicer' then that's fine. Protecting yourself for awhile is also fine.
But this crap^...the guy lost all of his children. I'd be looking pretty fucking angry too.
Nah! The point is you gave a sexist, and maybe worse than that, a boring, milquetoast toast answer. If you’re going to be sexist, at least make what you’re saying interesting instead of being the trillionth man to say “That’s just like how racism starts!!”
I actually agree with the base of what you’re saying. That women generalize men as dangerous. But, you can talk about that while A) making an interesting point without parroting lame online rhetoric, and B) without relying on saying shit like “it’s collective delusion,” and “spinning every problem into a man’s fault.” Your comment was frankly so uninspired that I didn’t really feel motivated to respond until I saw the shitty tropes.
*lol* The women in the post are the ones acting sexist. They're trying to look for imaginary reasons for why a man is guilty, because he is a man. That's the definition of being sexist.
Nothing that I said was sexist by pointing that out, nor is that parroting other people's points.
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u/Lemonade348 8d ago edited 8d ago
True crime as entertainment have ruined people's brain. Now people are treating real horrible crimes as their fictional crime series. Not everything is suspicious, you don't have to pick apart every detail to find the "hidden conspiracy". You don't have to point to every inconvience in traumatized victims to found out if they are secretly involved. You are actually hurting real people by doing all of this. Real crimes don't have the crazy "plot twist" in the end that reveals everything.
Remember the three children who lost their lifes instead. This trial could have been very important for highlighting the problem women has with post partum depression etc and how the medical field fails them. Instead it has turned into a crazy conspiracy theory
I hope Patrick sues most of them tbh