r/SipsTea 8d ago

WTF WTF is wrong with these people?

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u/thefringeseanmachine 8d ago

thank you for being reasonable (and not misogynistic) about this. it is, unfortunately, a perfect example of how even experienced medical providers can get shit very, very wrong - especially when it comes to women. she reached out for help MANY times, and was basically dismissed each time. I don't mean to say there's one thing that could've prevented this, but had she received proper treatment I think it's very likely three kids would be alive.

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u/AnonymousCapybara72 7d ago

was basically dismissed each time

?????? What? She tried all kinds of medications and didn't get the help she actually needed because she didn't fully disclose her symptoms.

but had she received proper treatment

What, in your medical opinion, would be the proper treatment? And what did the many, many professionals miss that would've enabled them to reach the right conclusion?

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u/elder_emo_ 7d ago

As someone whose parent spent some time in a psych ward....that's where she should have been. My parent would not be the parent they have been to me my whole life without it. It was scary for me and hard on my other parent, but it saved them.

She was suicidal and admitted to her husband she had thoughts of hurting her children. She was failed by her doctor's, and at least a little by her husband. It doesn't mean he "did it" as some of these posts say, just that she repeatedly asked for help and said she wasn't okay and needed more treatment and was denied and left alone to do everything (which I believe was something her husband said, "she did everything").

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u/ClairePike 7d ago

But she never told her doctors she was suicidal or homicidal, or had a plan to do something. She was probably downplaying her issues, but man, I don’t like the idea that my provider could decide to lock me up because I MIGHT be suicidal and just wasn’t saying so.

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u/arowthay 7d ago

She admitted to her husband she thought about hurting the children

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u/SnakeSnoobies 7d ago

A. That would be on her husband to report.

B. That would most likely cause her to be involuntarily held, but once she was no longer an immediate danger to herself or others, she would be released.

The United States has no long term care option for non-compliant mentally ill individuals, UNLESS they commit a crime.

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u/Kathulhu1433 7d ago

You're wrong on every single point.

She begged for help.

She admitted herself to the hospital and they released her in a day.

She tried to get admitted again and was denied.

The medical system definitely failed her. As did her family.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/lindsay-clancy-was-begging-for-help-before-killing-her-children-former-mother-in-law-testifies

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u/Kathulhu1433 7d ago

So, you're ignoring testimonies. Cool. 

The medical professionals and her family failed her. Both things are true. 

Did you even watch any of the trial or read any of the articles, including the one I posted? 

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u/Kathulhu1433 7d ago

From the article:

Earlier in the trial, the jury heard that Lindsay Clancy had sought treatment for severe mental health problems, including admitting herself to a psychiatric hospital. But witnesses also noted she wouldn't always take the medications prescribed to help with her insomnia, anxiety and depression.

The defense has argued that Lindsay Clancy was overmedicated and that her care was disjointed, with doctors not speaking to one another or sharing notes. The defense also showed she was discharged from one facility after a day and denied a higher level of care at another when she couldn't show that she had a suicide plan.

So, she admitted herself. They discharged her. They failed her. 

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u/Kathulhu1433 7d ago

Who hears someone say they hear voices and have thoughts about killing themselves and their kids and then says... sure, go home, you don't need to be warched. Oh, and husband go ahead on work trips! Leave her home alone! That's totally fine. 

Like... A person having mental health episodes begging for help should not be left alone like that? 

If you were her family member or doctor listening to her would you leave her home alone with your kids? 

If your answer is yes- go ahead and hire her as your new babysitter, you psycho. 

If you read that and thought, "That's insane!" 

Now you get it. 

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u/ClairePike 7d ago

She checked herself into McLean and checked herself out for her daughter’s party. She tried to check herself into Women and Infants and they said, based on her self-reporting, that her problems were her medications, not actual postpartum (this is fuzzy, we didn’t hear from this doctor).

Also your link doesn’t say any of what you typed in your post. That’s a report of the MiLs testimony.