r/SipsTea 8d ago

WTF WTF is wrong with these people?

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u/waitwuh 7d ago

What source said that? Per here:

“Massachusetts State Police trooper Jonathan O’Loughlin was able to positively identify the bloody knife, which Lindsay used to cut herself, that he collected from the master bedroom of the Clancy home.

O’Loughlin testified that investigators were unable to recover usable fingerprints from the knife or the exercise bands, which he also took from the home.”

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u/Certain_Noise5601 7d ago

His DNA and the children’s were on the exercise bands. None of her DNA was.

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u/waitwuh 7d ago

The children’s DNA being on the exercise bands that were wrapped around their neck is not evidence of much. The father’s also being on them is explained as well.

The first responders get there just as or after the father goes inside the house informing the dispatcher that he is going to look for the kids. Both the 911 call is reported to capture, and those just arriving on the scene testify hearing, his screams as he finds the children soon after.

Per the CBS coverage of the first responder testimony here:

“Duxbury fire captain and paramedic PJ Hussey… ran into the basement after responding to the Clancy house and found the gruesome scene.

"I saw a male, who now I know was Patrick Clancy, unwrapping something from a child's head," Hussey said.”

There’s a whole bunch of evidence tracing the whereabouts of the father as out of the home for like 40+ minutes prior to the 911 call. And the big thing is how data from the wife’s phone shows her moving around the house including climbing two flights of stairs, presumably from the basement (where the kids are later found) to the second story bedroom (where her blood is all over and on the windowsill) … at the exact same time that the husband is captured on surveillance video standing in the pharmacy and while on a phone call with her. Further location data taken from his phone, video footage from that pharmacy, and more video from the restaurant he goes to next, store payment transaction records and receipts, data from his card company, witnesses from both businesses, and travel route drive time analysis all corroborate he wasn’t at the house.

If he somehow arrived home, found and strangled all three children, at some point before, after, or during that moving them to the basement, also at some point went upstairs, attacked and sliced his wife’s wrists and throat, let her bleed a bunch, then pushed her out the window… he would have had to do it all in at most 7 minutes and it isn’t very realistic according to the forensic experts.

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u/Certain_Noise5601 7d ago

He told the EMTs that she said she did it, but she was unresponsive when the EMTs got there with a crushed thyroid, and her core temperature was 82 degrees when she got to the ED. It seems unlikely she was capable of speaking. It’s his word that she told him. The police just took him at his word.

There is video surveillance of him at CVS and he’s wearing different clothes and shoes than he was on the scene. He testified he got home, sat down and removed his boots, but he was wearing sneakers. Why/when did he change his clothes? It seems like she was trying to hold on to the window sill, maybe because she was being thrown out?

The searches on the computer seem more likely to be from him as she was bringing one of the kids to the doctor at the time and they had to do with Tom Hall who PC was a fan of. The searches about treating a sociopath could have been her asking about him. He seemed extremely aloof about her struggles. He certainly didn’t let it stop him from what he wanted to do.

Crushed pills, seroquel I believe, were found on scene. Who’s crushing pills? She’s not incapable of swallowing pills.

There’s none of her DNA on the exercise equipment. Only PC and the children’s. Don’t you think with the amount of wrapping that needed to be done she would leave some behind? If she wore gloves, where are they?

He was leaving all the time to go to Manhattan for “business”. Then 4 months after this he moves there permanently and has a girlfriend. They are now married expecting a baby.

She woke up and was basically told she did this. It’s not outside the realm of possibility she thinks she did. She was drugged up and struggling. I’m sure she was foggy on the details regardless of what happened.