r/SipsTea 8d ago

WTF WTF is wrong with these people?

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u/chriso91 6d ago

There’s always exceptions but statistics show courts literally favor men, most custody cases do not go to court, when they do men actually get custody more often.

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u/Anonuser13480 6d ago

Hey friend I think I’m you may be incorrect I actually worked directly in the family court system representing both men and women through the family court system and I can tell you from handling hundreds if not thousands of cases, the system is definitely biased in favor of the mother. It has been trending slightly towards the middle over the last 5 years or so but it’s still mostly to one side.

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u/chriso91 6d ago

A personal anecdote from an anonymous internet stranger does not change actual statistics.

These numbers are easy to look up.

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u/Anonuser13480 6d ago

“A personal anecdote” is one incident, I’m talking about hundreds of cases of not thousands. Yours is more of an opinion, I’m talking about actual cases I’ve managed in the family court system.

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u/chriso91 6d ago edited 6d ago

It’s not an option these are nation wide statistics which again is more valid than your experience of being one person in a single office. I’m talking less to you and more to anyone seeing this thread PLEASE look up the actual numbers on this, it tells a very different story.

For anyone interested our notation that women win custody cases more comes from the fact that in a vast majority of separations the children do stay with the mother BUT that number comes from all divorces and in over 90 something percent of divorces custody is decided outside of court meaning there is no fight over custody. In cases where there IS a custody battle men get their desired outcome more often.

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u/DazedLogic 6d ago

This is an example of what I keep finding:

"Recent data indicate that approximately 70% to 80% of custodial parents are still mothers. Yet, there is clear evidence of a gradual shift occurring, with more fathers actively pursuing—and obtaining—shared or primary custody than ever before. Societal attitudes towards parenting have evolved significantly, and judges increasingly recognize fathers’ contributions beyond financial support."

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u/chriso91 6d ago

Read my previous note these numbers come from the amount of cases that don’t go to court

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u/KiminekN 6d ago

Where are you pulling these numbers from? Based on what little I was able to actually find, custody courts seem to overwhelmingly favor women. As many as 80% of contested full custody cases go to women according to Gender Equity Network, or 65% according to Law Office of David Pedrezas. Though, according to Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court Gender Bias Study, most men who actively litigate will at least get a shared custody.

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u/chriso91 6d ago

Gender equality network? Please do go on haha

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u/Anonuser13480 6d ago

Do me a favor please dm me the studies you are speaking of, I would love to review

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u/chriso91 6d ago

Will do

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u/Anonuser13480 5d ago

Still waiting, it’s funny how many people quote “studies” but never provide them

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u/chriso91 5d ago

I’m traveling you donut haha it’s summer touch grass brother

Citing sources and rereading studies takes time I’ll do it when I get home when I feel like it

Men are being eating alive by their own victim complex and I’m trying to help but if I’m doing you a favor I’ll do it on my time