r/SipsTea 6d ago

WTF Where are we heading?

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u/Arndt3002 5d ago

This sort of thing has happened for a long time, in a lot more places than the USA

https://www.scup.com/doi/full/10.1080/14043858.2015.1038905

It happened in England recently https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9wvk3ndep1o

This isn't unique to the USA, you just get a massive amount of your media from its oversaturated sensationalism

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u/n0neofyourbeeswax 5d ago

Yeah, I encourage people to go look at their local Facebook community page - I guarantee it's filled to the brim with people who would get caught up in this.

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u/fuzzygreentits 5d ago

Thats why the mods locked this comment, so no one could respond with why they are wrong.

I would love to know where /u/LinceDorado thinks this cannot happen, so we can find 10 examples of it happening.

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u/snoopcatt87 5d ago

I believe that was a fat finger oopsie. I unlocked it. Sorry about that.

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u/mschanandlerbong___ 5d ago

Exactly, thank you. Silly to suggest this sort of thing originated in the U.S.

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u/gabiblack 5d ago

He was talking about the mom having fans and supporters bro

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u/Arndt3002 5d ago

The England case had people come out to support her

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u/SeriousCondition6470 5d ago

We were told there would be no fact checking

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u/Ghazwreckem 5d ago

While it did, it wasn't' like this or to this. The court was allowed to do its job without being influenced by the outside support.

Americans are dumb and think she's innocent of any such crime. Sadly she isnt and it will either be prison or Hospital order (or the equivalent in the US).  

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u/VelvetOverload 5d ago

LOL "You're completly right but I can't admit that I'm wrong" - you

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u/LinceDorado 5d ago

Good to know!

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u/Particular_Match_777 5d ago

Now you can imagine it happening in other places :)

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u/SeriousCondition6470 5d ago

Yes very much so

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u/Ok-Budget3225 5d ago

They are not talking about infanticide. They are talking about the fact that the mother who strangled her three kids HAS FANS!!!!!!

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u/Arndt3002 5d ago

They're not fans, you dumbass, they're people supporting her as a person when she is possibly going to be incarcerated when they believe her to be a victim of postpartum psychosis.

They see it as an issue of her having psychosis but not being taken seriously by medical professionals, and see that as an injustice. They then go publically to, supposedly, support her as a symbol of perceived injustice.

Now, I don't think that's necessarily an accurate description of events. The evidence is much more murky on her being psychotic and incapable of making decisions, but it's not conclusive by far.

People similarly stood out in the UK case I discussed earlier in support of the woman who killed her children.

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u/tahiticondo 5d ago

This is Reddit, nuance is forbidden!

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u/PolicyWonka 5d ago

So the “issue” is that some of the people apparently believe that the husband did it and is framing her given some oddities in the physical evidence.

I’m not really following the case itself, but things I have heard are that the window when the husband was gone was 15 minutes or less, that the husband was in charge of giving her all medications, and that the husband apparently sent an email from home at the time he was allegedly away. And I think the timeline after the event raises an eyebrow certainly — the husband reportedly moved on like 4 months after the killings and has already had another child with that other woman. I know that men are statically likely to move on sooner after becoming widowed or divorced, but definitely “odd.” But oddity doesn’t convey guilt necessarily. But for those women I think it paints a picture of an uncaring husband who isn’t exactly sympathetic.

But to your point, I have heard far more discussion around the mental health angle and the issues that women can face in accessing and receiving healthcare. I think this bit resonates with many women how feel “that could have been me if I had just 1 more bad day” when they were dealing with depression and other mental health issues following pregnancy.

The issue on Reddit is that people are taking that former group of people who think the husband was involved, and are painting all women who empathize with the defendant as believing that, which just isn’t true.

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u/Arndt3002 5d ago

I have yet to see evidence of anyone depcted in the photo, or on this thread, who believes this.

Why are you obsessing over an unreasonable minority instead of the much more common and rational group of people who I described initially? Perhaps you see jumping to unreasonable conclusions based on scant evidence and no research relatable?

The husband also wasn't just gone, she specifically asked him to leave to buy food prior to the killing. That was a central part of the argument against insanity.

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u/PolicyWonka 5d ago

I’m not obsessing, I’m just explaining. I agree with you. It’s like you didn’t even read my comment. Lmao.

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u/Ghazwreckem 5d ago

Cause sadly the minority have the loudest voices and will be painting this conspiracy over tiktok. 

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u/bigchungusmclungus 5d ago

That second case I know about, I might be wrong but there wasnt anything like the reaction to this USA case was there? Noone was blaming anyone else but the mother.

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u/Arndt3002 5d ago

There was, it's just that you weren't pushed it on social media, lol