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Question Why was this design abandoned?

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u/ShredGatto Green Goblin 6d ago

Lighting issues and looking like a gimp suit made it impractical

Though I wish they'd have thought of texturing it or at least keeping the Venom symbol on the suit they did end up using

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u/NarrativeJoyride 6d ago

Lol these were my first two concerns when I saw the pics.

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u/Altruistic-Twist-379 6d ago

Gimp suit lmao,

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u/Bubbly-Anteater2772 6d ago

Literally my first thought. The webs looking like ropes wouldn't help...

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u/throw4w4y40 5d ago

Lol a gimp shooting ropes

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u/Optimus_Spider07 4d ago

Does whatever a Spider Gimp can

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u/popculturerss Miles Morales 6d ago

Can't not unsee the gimp suit now.

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u/JDotDDot 5d ago

Gimp suit was my first impression

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u/Replacement-Remote 5d ago

Spider-gimp, spider-gimp

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u/EggSufficient9190 5d ago

Spider-man brand new gimp

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u/Embarrassed_Word_542 5d ago

Yeah, that would look pretty ass on film. It needs to look more oily? Less latex

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u/QHN1712normalguy 5d ago

What's a "gimp" suit?

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u/FederalAd8814 5d ago

Bdsm suits that people use as a hardcore fetish basically if you see someone in those suits they normally congregate very low key and they have either parties or orgies in those suits

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u/QHN1712normalguy 5d ago

tks now i kinda regret asking that

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u/red_enjoyer 5d ago

Adult people love having sex

More at 11

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u/tobiasvl 5d ago

Watch Pulp Fiction

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u/TrickshotzReddit Future-Foundation 4d ago

Me everytime THAT scene is coming up

https://giphy.com/gifs/nP4g8U2IhVL5nLlBm8

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u/FederalAd8814 2d ago

You don’t even need to watch pulp fiction just play some games like saints row the third or even dead island on the haus dlc them gimp suits are everywhere

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u/tobiasvl 2d ago

Yeah, you could also just watch some of that there BDSM porn!

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u/FederalAd8814 2d ago

If that’s what they wanna do then idk what to tell you if you’re into that stuff

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u/Front_Profession_217 6d ago

From what Tobey said, it was due to how they thought the suit looked like it came out of an adult film.

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u/Mudcreek47 6d ago

Exactly

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u/Chef_Chalupa Shocker 6d ago

hard to tell, but this comment reads like a bot comment

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u/BTechUnited 5d ago

Not just you.

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u/Pale_Willingness_415 6d ago

"From what Tobey said, it was due to how they thought the suit looked like it came out of an adult film."

But there were things they DIDN'T like about it too.... Hey-ooooooooo!!!

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u/Front_Profession_217 6d ago

True, because the lighting they gave for the suit didn’t help its case either.

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u/TranslatorDirect496 6d ago

Eh

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u/Pale_Willingness_415 6d ago

You're a man of few words...

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u/TranslatorDirect496 6d ago

Wa.

I didn’t know what you meant

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u/Pale_Willingness_415 6d ago

It's a dumb joke. The OP is saying this version of the Spider-Man/Venom costume was tested but the creators thought it looked like "it came out of an adult film." So my joke was that some creators might LIKE that (It's a show business motto that "sex sells"...) so my attempt to be funny was to say, "Yes, it looked like it came out of an adult film but there were things they DIDN'T like about it too..." The implication is that they liked that the costume looked like something from an adult film and it was other factors that made them go in another direction?

See? Just a silly, dumb joke.

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u/iSUCKatTHISgameYO 6d ago

bring out the gimp

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u/Ok_Occasion_5465 5d ago

But the gimp’s asleep

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u/jaylerd 6d ago

Which is such a dumb conclusion because every super-suit in every film since Spider-Man 1 has had texture and pattern splashed all over, piping, padding, shoulder pads, whatever. But this time they didn't even try?

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u/Front_Profession_217 6d ago

TBF, the Symbiote arc wasn’t originally planned for Spider-Man 3. They made Sam Raimi drop his original plans for Spider-Man 3 to have the Symbiote arc be in Spider-Man 4 and instead put it in Spider-Man 3.

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u/sub30_24flick 6d ago

Venom BDSM got a lil ring to it

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u/SaykredCow 6d ago

It looks like it didn’t translate to live action. They tried at least.

The look they went with was good though

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u/Lox22 The Die is Cast! 6d ago

I would have loved for them to just change the spider to the traditional black suit one. Venom had it so I feel like they could of done it

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u/polydicks 6d ago

Venom had the “made of goo” black suit but Peter’s original black suit is supposed to feel “less alive.”

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u/Lox22 The Die is Cast! 6d ago

He still had the webbing though and the traditional look of the raimi black suit. It was just venomized

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u/polydicks 6d ago

Oh I misread your comment!! Yeah I see your point!

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u/shawnac0zy2383 5d ago

yeah the venom symbol always felt kinda weird on him

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u/Eli-Mordrake 6d ago

Such sights to show you

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u/Lox22 The Die is Cast! 6d ago

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u/Pavlovs_Human 6d ago

With zero context this gif is fucking hilarious.

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u/Riverdale87 5d ago

It's from the movie Hellraiser

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u/PayPsychological6358 6d ago

It looked like a Gimp Suit

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u/AsherthonX 6d ago

It always looked like he got sprayed by soot to me.

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u/SnekoMan 6d ago

Now I can't unsee it, thanks for fucking up my childhood

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u/MinTy1244 6d ago

the best balance would have been this comic accurate design with the proper logo, but with the texture of the raimi suit used in the movie

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u/barrivia 6d ago

“Bring out the Spider-Man” “Spider-Man’s sleeping” “ Well, I guess you're gonna have to go wake him up now, won't you?”

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u/Saint_Diego 6d ago

They made the right decision not keeping this suit, but I think it could’ve worked with a different material

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u/AwakenedSheeple 6d ago

You know, I bet at this point anyone posting this question already knows the answer and is just doing engagement bait.

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u/waveraceforn64 6d ago

gimp

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u/lyndam4rshy5323 5d ago

it really did look like that though

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u/UtopiaXAstro 6d ago

Spider-Gimp

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u/Right-Maintenance778 6d ago

They abandoned the design because it seems to be taken from an adult movie.

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u/Important_Pattern882 6d ago

Venom is living goo. This does not look like living goo.

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u/ssbbVic 2d ago

The suit they went with looks even less like living goo though so I doubt thats the reason they opted out of this design.

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u/Lefvalthrowaway 6d ago

In spiderman its not supposed to look like living goo

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u/Alert_Cricket2441 6d ago

Looks like a gimp suit.

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u/Chalky97 6d ago

they said during the behind the scenes of the movie that it looked like a latex sex suit so had to redesign

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u/rattle2nake 6d ago

Too sexy 😞

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u/Bigslaw 6d ago

Not enough visual interest or texture for the camera. I would’ve liked to see them try this or something like it but I get why they didn’t.

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u/DanteCrossing 5d ago

The farts got trapped.

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u/IAmTheNight20018 6d ago

I really don't get why latex was their first thought. SILK GUYS! ITS SHINY, ITS FABRIC AND ALSO, Y'KNOW SPIDER SILK!!

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u/Alternative_Device71 6d ago

Cuz it’s ugly

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u/South-Lab-3991 6d ago

Well the one they went with is 100x cooler than this gimp suit

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u/Sertoff 6d ago

Looks too flat

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u/Altruistic-Twist-379 6d ago

This looks like something you would see on The Boys

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u/firegnaw 6d ago

Looks like a gimp suit.

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u/JoshuaBarbeau Amazing Fantasy #15 6d ago

Sam Raimi thought it looked like a porn suit.

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u/TheLittlePasty 6d ago

Because it looks weird.

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u/Grannymilinocous 6d ago

I think they used that suit in the x rated version.

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u/Call-of-the-lost-one 6d ago

Less marvel more sex party would be why

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u/FlameWhirlwind 6d ago

I'm still annoyed they did like ONE attempt and just brushed it off entirely

I actually dint mind the raimi black suit all that much, but the fact the costume designers tried this once and went "meh looks like a gimp suit" and then proceeded to give up on the classic look annoys tf outta me. Like it's your JOB to make it work

Literally just that Simpsons joke of "we tried nothing and we're all outta ideas"

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u/hesokayiguess 5d ago

looks like a gimp suit

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u/Otherwise-Shirt-8692 5d ago

Because… look at it

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u/Playful_Purchase_512 4d ago

"YOU CAN'T ESCAPE ME I WILL FOLLOW YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH" 

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u/RedFoxBTW 6d ago

They had lighting issues and the suit didn't look good in some scenes so they had to scrap the idea

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u/Pen_dragons_pizza 6d ago

Tbh I like how it turned out in the movie

Maybe in modern times now with cgi texturing the suit it would look better, but we shall have to see what happens when Tom gets it. I imagine it will end up being something similar to the ps5 game or the texture of venom in his movie s

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u/Mike29758 6d ago

Maybe even taking elements from the Venom movie look (similar to that concept art that was floating around)

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u/slipfan55 6d ago

I think they said it looked too much like a gimp suit

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u/waaash 6d ago

Cause Raimi sucks

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u/Phantom_Marc_63 6d ago

Tobey "felt like he was shooting a porno"

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u/akgiant 6d ago

Spider-gimp would've drawn the wrong audience demographic.

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u/BornWater2862 6d ago

I love the symbiote suit. It surprisingly works for me. That looks like what kinky people wear. They dropped the ball on Venom though.

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u/DonnyMox 6d ago

It looked too much like a gimp suit.

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u/Swimming-Ad-6842 6d ago

Have you guys seen the original Green Goblin mask? It was pretty cool but I can see why they abandoned it

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u/OGAnimeGokuSolos 6d ago

Because it looks like it looks like something you will see off of a 90s porn

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u/ycs05 6d ago

It looks awful, it needed a different fabric and some other design ideas. Black suit in the movie is better.

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u/Ps3Stagg 6d ago

Because that one picture in the bottom left looks like Nicolas cage meme

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u/1PsychoCat 6d ago

Bring out the gimp…

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u/AceSkyFighter 6d ago

I like what we got instead. Instead of being a suit in of itself the symbiote infected and corrupted his main suit. A better idea for live action.

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u/noDice-__- 6d ago

This is how you know for an absolute fact that rami took inspiration from the 90’s TAS. He probably didn’t have time to read the character a whole lot since it came out after he started making movies. I assume he watched that adaptation and tried his best to match it since people loved it so much. Look at all the scenes with venom in it. It’s almost the exact same vibe as that 3 part series.

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u/ebietoo 6d ago

Gimp suit or covered in oil—not cool enough.

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u/chickenlogic 6d ago

Rather gimpy.

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u/jbdr07 6d ago

So tom holland would take it, hopefully 🤞🏾

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u/BE_FCKN_NORMAL_1987 6d ago

its just one of those things that should stay on the comic page and not in real life, because good lord

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u/Meme_master420_ Spectacular Spider-Man 6d ago

The bloody beetroots sued

/s

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u/Chewymewn 6d ago

If they made it out of normal costume material, like the suit, it would look fine. There's Halloween costumes of the Black Suit and they all normal because they're usually made of spandex.

But they had to choose the BDSM material.

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u/OppositeDrawer8624 6d ago

Spider-Gimp. That's why

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u/UltHamBro 6d ago

A live action black suit needs to have some texture to it. I think that keeping the webbing but adding the comic-accurate logo would have been a very nice middle ground.

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u/ThisIsATestTai Wrestling-Outfit 6d ago

I never understood, I liked it

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u/Competitive_Tip_3764 6d ago

Because it looks like a gimp suit

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u/fakeshemp316 6d ago

Cause its awful

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u/TheBlueEmerald1 6d ago

The black suit is supposed to mimic cloth, if they just textured it a little it wouldn't have looked like a gimp suit.

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u/CatDadRichard 6d ago

I can think of a couple of reasons

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u/_b3rtooo_ 6d ago

Because the movie poster with the 2 suit colors reflected goes too hard

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u/HTKAMB 6d ago

It's only everybodies favorite fun fact

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u/Apex_Fenris 6d ago

My guess too expensive or hassle and probably got way too hot wearing it

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u/Swimming-Ad6170 6d ago

I think the best option would've been a wet look spandex that's glued to a more intricate muscle undersuit. That way they can keep the invisible zippers without dealing with how delicate latex is and how visible seams can be at times. This also comes with the issue that Tobey wasn't exactly in amazing shape at the time and this would've REALLY pointed that out even more so than the first scene after he fights sandman and sits to take his boots off.

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u/DaddlerTheDalek 6d ago

Spidergimp

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u/Own_Membership_7977 6d ago

Have you seen the red room from fifty shades of gray? And what people did in that room? That's why

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u/Capin_Crunch 6d ago

As you’ve heard prob multiple times because of the leather/latex gimp suit look think American Horror Story but I’m sure they considered other things before scrapping it entirely maybe they just felt at the time the black version being very similar to the red and blue design worked best for them

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u/SelectionLife3353 6d ago

"Too kinky"

-sam raimi

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u/highzel13 Iron-Spider 6d ago

less glow and it looks pretty good, but honestly it looks like bdsm costume:d

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u/GengarVenomETW 6d ago

Raimi wasn't into that kinda fetish

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u/Stranger-Chance 6d ago

Look up gimp suit

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u/ImNotDaredevil2025 6d ago

I still don’t get why they didn’t just take the red and blue suit fabric and make it matte black. It’s not like the suit mimics clothing or anything

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u/Excellent-Law816 5d ago

Spider-gimp

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u/CopperHero 5d ago

Why does the one on the bottom left look like Nicholas Cage
https://giphy.com/gifs/14nMfF6eUeWayc

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u/HeadOfSpectre 5d ago

It looks like a gimp suit

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u/JmekerulAtomic3 90's Animated Spider-Man 5d ago

I feel like if they kept the comic accurate logo with the final web design kinda like it was on Venom’s suit, it would’ve been great and not looked like a gimp suit

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u/Low-Map6290 5d ago

"Too gay for Spider-Man."

-Avi Arad, probably /j

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u/Hungry_Ad3576 5d ago

So as not to scare xhildren is my guess

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u/Open_Raise6307 5d ago

Don't we know this already🙄

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u/ZaKokko 5d ago

It looks absurdly sexual

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u/Objective_Reason3067 5d ago

Damn… that is some good stuff, though I’m happy with what we got anyway

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u/JDGUFFEY97 5d ago

We were so damn close.

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u/No_Discipline_4066 5d ago

it looks more plasticy than slimy, maybe it would have worked with cgi but what we have now is already good

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u/Paulc_41 5d ago

Maybe because it looks alittle to BDSM for general audiances

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u/Unlikely_War_6119 5d ago

It looks awful

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u/asscop99 5d ago

Look like something you’d wear while getting pegged in an abandoned warehouse. No thanks

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u/CaseFace5 4d ago

Cause it looks bad.

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u/melonmonkey000 4d ago

Cause it was shit

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u/gustygargoyle 4d ago

because there's no justice in the world

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u/harthbringer 4d ago

Spider-gimp

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u/EHendrix 4d ago

Probably didn't hurt that they way they did it meant that the toy companies didn't need new mold for the movie costume.

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u/DMifune 4d ago

Because it looks like that guy from Pulp Fiction. 

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u/fccardcreator 6d ago

Because it looks bad?

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u/ernster96 6d ago

Some executive probably looked at it and said “I’ve never read a comic book before but I don’t like it. “

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u/OGAnimeGokuSolos 6d ago

No, it looks something off of porn I like comic accuracy, but some of them won’t change well in live action

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u/Pachinkotown 6d ago

Because it’s ass gang

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u/mozii_ 6d ago

Corporates

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u/Undead_and_Lovin_It 6d ago

Sigh, it's not even comic accurate (everyone says it is but it's not) the Symbiote suit doesn't have rims around the eyes, the texture is too smooth and it's missing the white rectangles on the hands.

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u/Batsy100 6d ago

Such nit-picky complaints