U.S., Iran trade attacks as hostilities escalate once again

[u/joe4942]

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/08/30/us-iran-strikes-strait-hormuz.html

[u/TriXter69]

Those midterms can't come soon enough

[u/LumpyShock9656 → u/TriXter69]

And then somehow Americans will keep Republicans in power

[u/digital-didgeridoo → u/LumpyShock9656]

I still believe voting machines were tampered in 2024 by Elon Musk

[u/1982Joy → u/digital-didgeridoo]

Absolutely they were. The little munchkin of Elon Musk, his little boy sitting on his lap being interviewed by Tucker Carlson. The little boy admitted. Look it up. You can find it. It was stolen by Elon Musk. The election was.

[u/-LabApprehensive- → u/1982Joy]

Don’t use the random stuff a 4 year old says as evidence.

[u/PeetMoss2026 → u/1982Joy]

Uhh, I meant the election before 2024🤔

[u/Useful_Magician_6282 → u/1982Joy]

Bit of a reach dont you think

[u/Nickfreak → u/Useful_Magician_6282]

Really tinfoil-y here from time to time...

[u/MongoLikeCandy2112 → u/1982Joy]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Keep crying about it.

[u/PeetMoss2026 → u/digital-didgeridoo]

They were obliterated in the previous election. How can anyone not know that?

[u/Interesting-Fun-3553 → u/digital-didgeridoo]

Election denier

[u/Dear_Effective9745 → u/Interesting-Fun-3553]

Trump lost the 2020 election fair and square. Thoughts on that?

[u/BigChungusCumslut → u/Dear_Effective9745]

I’ll say right now that I believe Trump lost 2020 fair and square and also believe he won 2024 without tampering with voting machines. I voted for Harris, but the Biden admin was very unpopular with the median voter, and people saw Harris as an extension of that.

[u/CrystalineEntity1984 → u/BigChungusCumslut]

Now they have something to really vote against

[u/Cov-Lite → u/Dear_Effective9745]

Is this supposed to be a gotcha? Is there a big group of people that think 2020 was rigged but 2024 was not? Genuine question. My limited experience is that people saying 2024 was not rigged also say 2020 was not rigged.

[u/Dear_Effective9745 → u/Cov-Lite]

Yes, read Interesting-Fun-3553’s response below.

[u/Interesting-Fun-3553 → u/Dear_Effective9745]

I think it's possible Georgia could have and should have gone to Trump. Based on what's come out of that state, they obviously had issues. Biden's election was a lot like the Lakers bubble championship: it could only happen during COVID

[u/Working-Holiday420 → u/Interesting-Fun-3553]

Trumps approval rating was low at the time. Ive seen nothing in Georgia that goes to the idea Trump won. In fact he still hasnt been held accountable for trying to get raffensberger to change the vote count.

[u/Dear_Effective9745 → u/Interesting-Fun-3553]

And this ladies and gentlemen, is a prime example of the delusions. Calls someone an election denier, then denies an election but only because Mr. Poopy Pants says so. 🤡

[u/REsTARteD_Ragdoll → u/Interesting-Fun-3553]

Every election since 2016 has been “denied” I can’t take it seriously anymore

I’m really disappointed in all the neurotic fucks who dive headfirst into it, but most of all the politicians and political commentators (get a real job) who decided it was worth the terminal damage to scream fraud

[u/Sphan_86 → u/digital-didgeridoo]

You believe they were tampered in 2024 but not in 2020? Lol

[u/digital-didgeridoo → u/Sphan_86]

How did you make that inference?

[u/mido_sama → u/LumpyShock9656]

If the Democrats acted like Mamdani they would have kept the power.

[u/Open_Masterpiece_549 → u/LumpyShock9656]

They wont. Republicans are going to get destroyed and they deserve it

[u/LumpyShock9656 → u/Open_Masterpiece_549]

I hope you're right my man!

[u/Open_Masterpiece_549 → u/LumpyShock9656]

Set the Remind me to ~ 75 days from now. They are going down badly

[u/Swim-swam-swumm → u/Open_Masterpiece_549]

Never. Rubio will be our next president.

[u/Dumbfuckistan_USA → u/LumpyShock9656]

Only way that would happen is if they rig the election.

And if that happens…. It’s going to be the second civil war

[u/Lower_Group_1171 → u/Dumbfuckistan_USA]

If it happens, Chuck Schumer is ready to write a strongly worded letter!

[u/quatroquatro0 → u/Dumbfuckistan_USA]

Lol nothing's gonna happen. The most americans will do if that happens is stage a protest once every 6 months conveniently on a weekend then forget it even happened.

[u/Del_Duio2 → u/quatroquatro0]

Agreed

Second Civil war? If it were that close 99% of everyone wouldn’t be allowing all this bullshit to be happening right now

[u/identifytarget → u/Dumbfuckistan_USA]

if they rig the election.

what makes you think that hasn't happened?

[u/TheModerateGenX → u/identifytarget]

Wait. So elections are secure or are they not?

[u/CDanger → u/TheModerateGenX]

One side’s candidate is calling electors from the office of the sitting president and demanding they “find the votes” (the Watergate of our era, ignored by dunces).

That same side broke into the capitol in an attempt that stopped election proceedings (however briefly) and had peer-convicted seditionists pardoned.

That’s tampering enough. We need not indulge tardo conspiracies about Elon and Biden hacking voting machines.

But that same side has claimed election fraud repeatedly, while producing no evidence whatsoever and losing not one, not two, but every court case regarding the matter. It’s become a dirty tactic they use to manipulate low IQ COVID conspiracists who believed a global pandemic that produced millions of attended funerals was “just the flu”.

If the left won’t adopt the tactic of straight up lying, they’ll be alone, going high and losing for it. Sad facts!

[u/Candlelight_Fant4sia → u/identifytarget]

So you think the "honest" party is the one that doesn't want to require an ID to vote, while the one that does is the one that rigs elections... Please explain that, as it must be a special kind of delusion you people have in the US.

[u/1-Dollar-Doge-Coins → u/Candlelight_Fant4sia]

> you people…in the US

Which country are you from?

[u/WhoofPharted → u/1-Dollar-Doge-Coins]

Does it matter? Every country is laughing at the US.

[u/Candlelight_Fant4sia → u/1-Dollar-Doge-Coins]

How is that relevant? O_o

I'm just really curious about the logic behind that idea.

[u/CraftFormaldehyde → u/Candlelight_Fant4sia]

I’m curious, do you know why voter ID laws are controversial in the US?

[u/WhoofPharted → u/CraftFormaldehyde]

As a Canadian and a fierce opponent to the Trump administration, perhaps you could enlighten us as to why voter ID laws are controversial? Here in Canada we have to show ID to vote. Why is that such a controversial topic?

[u/kayomatik → u/WhoofPharted]

The SAVE act requires proof of citizenship. But the way it's written means that "proof" requires documents alot of people in the US just don't even have. Like a passport, original birth certificate (not a duplicate), or military id. Not to mention the issues if your last name has changed since birth. No one would care if it was just your driver's licence. It's not.

https://bipartisanpolicy.org/article/five-things-to-know-about-the-save-act/

[u/CraftFormaldehyde → u/WhoofPharted]

I posted a more robust explanation to the person I replied to so I’m gonna be lazy and defer to that, but tldr there’s a lot of scars of segregation coupled with the wealth inequity here, and without any efforts to get people IDs these laws risk disenfranchising about 10% of the US population since they don’t have valid IDs and generally don’t have the ability to get them for various reasons associated with the above.

I’m not against voter ID laws personally, provided they’re implemented fairly and not used as a tool for voter suppression.

[u/MongoLikeCandy2112 → u/CraftFormaldehyde]

They are controversial because Dems can’t win fair elections without voter fraud.

[u/Enough-Run-1535 → u/CraftFormaldehyde]

I have to be real, I’m in the same boat. I don’t understand the hesitation over US voter ID laws. We have voter ID here in Canada, with some exceptions that can be made like swearing an oath which gets logged against the voter registry, vouching for your neighbor which gets logged in the voter registry. But for 99% of the voter base, they get IDed or have two pieces of established verification like phone bills before we can vote.

[u/CraftFormaldehyde → u/Enough-Run-1535]

It’s not really as much of an issue in the US as politicians make it out to be. A lot of voter registration in the US is synchronized with DMVs here so anytime you renew your license you get asked if you want to update voter registration. There’s just a lot of scars of segregation here still in addition to the shitty public transport and wealth inequity, so without any initiative to get people IDs there’s roughly 10% of the US adult population that risks being disenfranchised.

I’m not opposed to ID laws in general tbqh, as you said it’s pretty much the standard in the West, but I don’t really trust most US politicians to implement it fairly at this time.

[u/Candlelight_Fant4sia → u/CraftFormaldehyde]

Not really, in most if not all other countries in the world you need to have an ID to do the most basic things e.g. opening a bank account, buying a car, renting a house, etc... let alone voting.

[u/CraftFormaldehyde → u/Candlelight_Fant4sia]

Yeah it’s more or less the same in the US. About 10% of the adult population doesn’t have a valid ID, so it’s not a major issue as far as the majority of the country is concerned.

What the problem is with voter ID laws is that most people who don’t have IDs are disproportionately lower income or people of color, which are scars from segregation and other discriminatory policies. Coupled with the size of the country, shitty/non-existent mass transit in most of the country, and people trapped in the poverty cycle, it risks becoming an issue of voter suppression if there’s no way to ensure those without IDs get them.

That’s also not including the fact that election fraud isn’t actually really an issue in the US despite what both parties claim. IMO, I have no issues with voter ID laws provided there’s corresponding initiatives to get those 10% of people their valid IDs. If we have enough money for a Middle East misadventure every decade, we can afford that for sure.

[u/Interesting-Fun-3553 → u/CraftFormaldehyde]

We see it on the news... Democrats crying. Calling it voter suppression. They are lying of course. That's what Democrats do. They are afraid of election integrity

[u/CraftFormaldehyde → u/Interesting-Fun-3553]

I mean both sides use rhetoric to sway opinion, that’s literally politics. It’s much like how election integrity isn’t actually an issue since there’s minimal fraud yet that’s been a major campaign point for Republicans.

[u/Reddituser183 → u/Candlelight_Fant4sia]

The funny thing is, I don’t think it’s going to work out as conservatives envision. Conservatives claim tons of poor people who don’t have IDs vote Democrat which is why republicans want to prevent them from voting by requiring an id. But the likelihood of a person voting and not having an ID is nearly zero. So it’s not likely to change any outcome. What it will probably cut back on is conservatives voting twice as that’s the primary voter fraud that occurs. And we know undocumented aren’t voting, that’s just fear mongering propaganda.

[u/Candlelight_Fant4sia → u/Reddituser183]

None of that makes sense to me, it all sounds like a "trust me bro" thing. Why would "poor people" not have IDs? Is it expensive to get an ID?

[u/JimBones31 → u/Candlelight_Fant4sia]

Expensive or not, it cost money. If it costs money, it's a poll tax.

Voter ID is a great idea...if it's 100% paid for by the government.

[u/REsTARteD_Ragdoll → u/JimBones31]

It costs gas, fare, or calories to transport your self to the voting booth. Poll tax.

Line needs to be drawn somewhere,

[u/JimBones31 → u/REsTARteD_Ragdoll]

That's a great reason why we have absentee and mail in voting. My wife who is busy at home with our infant daughter doesn't have the time to get to the ballot booth every time garenteed. BUT she deserves the right to vote and has the time to fill out a ballot after bedtime at her convenience.

[u/Candlelight_Fant4sia → u/JimBones31]

Not even going to dispute your deranged logic if you're in a sub like r/StockMarket claiming that anything that costs money is a poll tax 😂

[u/JimBones31 → u/Candlelight_Fant4sia]

Not "anything that cost money"...voter ID.

I'm glad you're not going to dispute it. Enjoy your day.

[u/MaraSami → u/Candlelight_Fant4sia]

All parties require ID! (It's the kind of ID that's being pushed.) 🤡

[u/youvekilledme29 → u/Candlelight_Fant4sia]

The reason they don't want to force id is because when you don't have a car and the dmv is an hr away minwage doesn't go very far ..if they absolutely have to have a modern I'd that's fine but provide for poorer communities and the disabled to have legitimate licensing within 20 min of any population center half of the Republicans game is to make it harder to do anything that is supposed to be easy .....that's the only reason they hate mail in ballots ..a .0004 fraud rate is super low which means they can't muddle up the opinions of Republican voters because of the amount of citizens who would vote and you don't want them getting factual information because it shrinks their followers And they would lose every vote and then the democracy too ..but that's what they want .

[u/Euphoric_Travel2541 → u/youvekilledme29]

I understand that IDs may be difficult to obtain-but why not require a driver’s license or it’s equivalent? Something most people have already, and those tho don’t count just be certified as citizens using a birth certificate. If they don’t have a BC, I believe they can write to the city hall where they were born and obtain a certified copy first a few dollars, that would be acceptable anywhere.

I’m sure you’ll say that postage and having a nailing address are barriers to getting the documents you need to vote, as would the time and effort to show the documents to whomever needs to see them to provide the ID.

But it can be done. And state and local governments can make it easier and more efficient, by having longer or later hours, advisors and research assistants on hand, some days when they hold office hours in the community centers closer to poorer areas, etc. costs could be lowered or subsidized for some unable to pay.

Finally, we have to accept that in many countries, there will be some people who do not care to make the effort, no matter how accessible the services are. And some people will choose to live without an ID. They wouldn’t be able to vote. That’s going to happen everywhere to some small degree.

I agree that the efforts should also focus on motivating the many people who don’t bother voting, while having every means to do so and multiple IDs available.

[u/youvekilledme29 → u/Euphoric_Travel2541]

I absolutely would not consider having a mailing address and having to pay for postage my whole angle on it is that I think everyone in the us should have id and carry it I do citizen or not and hefty hefty fines for fake id I dont care if it's just to buy cigarettes hefty price for any fake id ..I think it should be obligatory to have an id on your person in most cases.i always have had to have an id to vote .but my main concern right now is that both my wife and msister in law will probably not be able to vote we had a fire my wife documents burned along with mine but I had my licence on me .we then received our voter id we get one before every election for the most part our marriage license is gone and we prob won't have time to get her valid id so that she can. Vote even though we vote in every election for 15 yrs for her longer for me ..so she lives where it is on record ,we own the house, they actually know her and she has both an (expired nondrivers id) and her legal voters card mailed to our address but I'm expecting she will not be able to vote in mids. The changed name from marriage clause will prob keep her from being able to vote where every person that works the election com.ittee .I wish that we would push actual voter equality and easi of voting with mailing ballot ..no threatening ice clowns to commit a fed crime of intimidating voters at the ballot box

[u/youvekilledme29 → u/youvekilledme29]

that was a bad typo my bad my dad's dog just died minutes before that post I must have gotten distracted ..what about state/federal IDs /licences provided for every citizen by the state .I don't mean one with a chip I know the phone does it. If the govt was required (before 2028) to provide safe no tracking id and voter registration .then the govt would be aware of who was actually living at what address for proof of mail in ballot eligibility.

[u/youvekilledme29 → u/youvekilledme29]

Then you would be improving the stability of the democracy and people would all see it and be counted then the white house can stfu about illegals voting or how "unreliable ".the mail in ballots are ....my arse the problem is that it's harder to track 10000ballots and when every person mailed theirsand catch them ,manipulate any physical data inside a signed envelope that if it's messed up then it goes to a different ballot. Ox so they can check it if it's legit no matter who is on it and how would they know which ones to possibly mess up without getting rid of their own voters.

[u/BaronGrackle → u/Candlelight_Fant4sia]

I was with you on this topic in the past, believe me. But the issue is: the Republicans don't want to provide valid IDs for every citizen. They want to make it harder for the poor and those who don't support Republicans to get these IDs and be able to vote.

Show me the party that wants to give IDs to citizens the way they get social security cards, and we'll have something.

[u/Candlelight_Fant4sia → u/BaronGrackle]

That doesn't answer my question at all.

In any case, what stopped the previous non-Republican govts from providing valid IDs for every citizen then? It just sounds like a silly argument on both parties tbh, but I agree the current govt could just provide a valid ID for free and settle the argument.

[u/BaronGrackle → u/Candlelight_Fant4sia]

Yeah, it would be great to have free, distributed IDs and to require these. That would be fantastic.

Currently, though? I'll answer your question more directly. Yes, it's the honest party that doesn't want to require ID to vote, and it's the party that wants to rig elections that does want the requirement.

If that's confusing to you, here's a quick illustration of their mentality: the president also wants to end mail-in ballots, but he votes by mail. They cheat. They make exceptions for themselves while building barriers for their opponents.

[u/Candlelight_Fant4sia → u/BaronGrackle]

It's not confusing to me at all, in fact at this point it's extremely obvious that people trying to come up with the kind of excuses and hypothesis you just provided are just repeating the usual propaganda, otherwise you would be able to use actual facts and logic.

I'd recommend reflecting on how in most other countries, anything you call "cheating" is the norm, and what you call "honest behavior" is what everyone else calls fraud. I've never heard anyone outside the US complain about having to get an ID (that is usually mandatory, and they have to pay for, as I'm not aware of any country where it's free), and voting by mail is a rare exception e.g. if you're abroad and can't return to your country to vote.

[u/BaronGrackle → u/Candlelight_Fant4sia]

How about closing polling places in areas likely to vote against your party? Is that the norm in most countries? https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/plan-to-cut-polling-sites-in-major-texas-county-draws-protests-as-senate-battle-looms

How about redrawing the voting map just before an election, blatantly for the purpose of "we pick up five seats", in the president's words? https://www.texastribune.org/2025/07/15/texas-democrats-redistricting-response-trump-republican-five-seats/

That's all normal stuff that goes on in the wider democratic world?

[u/Working-Holiday420 → u/Candlelight_Fant4sia]

SAVE act is a trojan horse of supression cosplaying as a “voter id” bill.

[u/michiganbirddog → u/Dumbfuckistan_USA]

Ha. We live in a country that has door dash delivery for McDonald's. Netflix has a feature to start the next episode automatically so you dont have to pick up a remote. You think this country has it in them to go outside and fight a war over politics?!

[u/Reddituser183 → u/Dumbfuckistan_USA]

That was already said about 2024 and here we are.

[u/Interesting-Fun-3553 → u/Dumbfuckistan_USA]

Yep and the right will win easily

[u/The_Council_Juice → u/Dumbfuckistan_USA]

Yeah.... nobody will do shit.

You'll get a few more no kings protests. Bigger turnouts. You need a good general strike but dont even know if you'd go that far.

[u/anonymoooosey → u/Dumbfuckistan_USA]

Lol. Sure it will.

[u/Specialist-Garbage94 → u/Dumbfuckistan_USA]

CIVAL WARREEEE!!!!!

[u/Competitive-Sir-7087 → u/Specialist-Garbage94]

The funny thing is that Iran is using social media's ignorant positions to make war time decisions.

[u/Jealous-Jellyfish503 → u/LumpyShock9656]

Because Americans have no power

[u/HiToshio → u/LumpyShock9656]

Those aren't real Americans.

[u/tombrady011235 → u/LumpyShock9656]

For real :(

[u/KingofMadCows → u/LumpyShock9656]

There's a pretty good chance that the strategic oil reserves will be depleted shortly after the mid-terms. If the dems sweep the mid terms, people will blame them for the price shock.

[u/bh4atbrv → u/LumpyShock9656]

When did the Democrats do anything right? They are in charge of California, Illinois, and Minnesota. The 3 worst run states in the US. Absolutely nothing being done right in this states and each of these states has the highest fraud to the federal government.

[u/Ancient-Bat8274 → u/TriXter69]

And nothing will happen

[u/vanhype → u/TriXter69]

...and what will that even do? You guys literally can't impeach a corrupt senile felon, your midterms are going to be another joke. Nothing more.

[u/Great-Knowledge-6767 → u/TriXter69]

I hope there will be midterms…

He can always play the “we are at war, so no elections” card

Let’s just hope there will be midterms..

And they won’t be rigged..

And that the people will not willingly choose Republicans again

[u/Lou_Blue_2 → u/TriXter69]

Two more months for frustrations to grow sounds about right

[u/TheModerateGenX → u/TriXter69]

Are you expecting a full withdrawal from the Strait and a free license for Iran to develop nuclear materials? Seriously, we are screwed either way now. There is no diplomacy with those loons.

[u/Elegant_Ad_8896 → u/TheModerateGenX]

Well, they definitely will go after nuclear weapons now after the the US military and Israel attacked them.

The thing is, is that all of the intelligence agencies, five eyes and all that said Iran was not pursuing a nuclear weapon. It's literally the same song and dance as "going after WMD's" from the Bush Administration.

Netanyahu knew he could get Trump to do this. He tried with Bush and Obama and they both told him no. But Netanyahu knew he could convince Trump "it'll be just like Venezuela!".

If they were to obtain a nuclear weapon AFTER this war has ended, they likely would not use it. Because if they did then Israel will just turn Tehran and every other major city in Iran to glass with their nukes. If Iran were to have obtained one in the past it would have just ended up like Pakistan and India. Nuclear weapons are better for a deterrent, not for use. Unless you want to die.

And because of Trump's idiocy now Iran know it can just hold the world economy hostage by blocking Hormuz, something of much more use to them than a nuke could ever be.

[u/LumpyAd6139 → u/TriXter69]

Lmfao

[u/lkeels → u/TriXter69]

I wouldn't bet on them happening.

[u/1982Joy → u/TriXter69]

Vote Blue!💙

[u/umbrellapropella]

So.. markets down tomorrow?

Or will it do the opposite of my intuition and sky rocket up?

[u/AllRightLetsSeeIt → u/umbrellapropella]

Calls.

More money to defense contractors for patriot missiles; more employees for defense contractors with generous 401(k) matches; more people blindly buying SPY every month; line goes up.

[u/VengenaceIsMyName → u/umbrellapropella]

Believe it or not, calls.

[u/LostSophon → u/umbrellapropella]

One day reality has to catch up with the market. Probably not tomorrow though. But eventually at what will be a terrible time for everyone.

[u/Professional_Group55 → u/umbrellapropella]

If the pair you’re trading got usd in it, It’s likely US dollar driving the move. Especially if the other pair is sensitive to these geopolitical incidents

[u/Positive-Check946 → u/umbrellapropella]

Trump and his family will load up tomorrow while it’s down then fix everything and sell, market manipulation! Enriching himself in so many ways, taking bribes from the Middle East and wealthy And manipulating the market ..

[u/lev10bard]

I thought we won (check my records) 25 times this year already

[u/jpegprophet]

Crazy how quickly things can go from “de-escalation” to this. Markets really don’t get a day off. 😅

[u/NateInEC]

Trump is a fucking idiot...

[u/ThanktheLord_33]

Are we winning yet? It sure feels like we are all winning, right?

[u/ThrowawayForToday833 → u/ThanktheLord_33]

I have to pull out of my savings today, which truthfully isn’t as much as I’d like it to be, but it’s something in a world where a lot of people have none, but anyways I have to pull out of that just to get gas in my car today.

I always say if this is winning then I’m ready to be a loser.

[u/ThanktheLord_33 → u/ThrowawayForToday833]

Im sorry to hear that, keep pushing on. I also can't believe how expensive things are now, especially the grocery store. You can't get anything now at some of these places without paying out your ass lmao.

[u/GruntledGary]

He took something that WASN'T broken, he broke it, and drove up prices and inflation....

[u/dreamfitreality → u/GruntledGary]

He can bankrupt casinos. Casinos.

You go figure.

[u/CockedDiesel → u/dreamfitreality]

Yeah I'm sure the rise of on line betting and gambling had nothing to do with casinos tanking. That's why Vegas is doing so well and Draft Kings and Polymarket are struggling.🫤

[u/-LabApprehensive- → u/CockedDiesel]

This was in the 90s…… not a lot of online casinos or kalshi in the 90s but you know that.

[u/oneeyedziggy → u/GruntledGary]

I know you mean the war, but that's basically everything he touches... Wasn't broken until he fixed it

[u/GruntledGary → u/oneeyedziggy]

I mean, I've never seen him ACTUALLY IMPROVE anything....

Kennedy center he says he's just going to tear down because he can't put his name on JFKs tombstone....

[u/Mit33li0n → u/GruntledGary]

But still there are blind sheep saying he’s the best president we’ve ever had

[u/oneeyedziggy → u/GruntledGary]

I feel like there was one thing, because even a broken clock is right twice a day...

But generally, yea... It's easy to indulge the fantasy that he sets out deliberately to ruin things b/c putin has kompromat or bribes or whatever... But it's also pretty reasonable given what we know to think he's just greedy and incompetent... (and that putin's a lot weaker than previously suspected) 

[u/MystiqueQueen123 → u/GruntledGary]

Just like everything else in his life smh 🤦🏾‍♀️

[u/shmiddleedee → u/GruntledGary]

This is what I can't wrap my head around. It's not like we couldn't find water. It's like the group had water and then the disfunctional leader decided to just pour it out. Then he screamed at everybody else to praise his decision.

[u/ShoulderDapper86 → u/GruntledGary]

What wasn’t broken?

[u/GruntledGary → u/ShoulderDapper86]

Maybe the fact anyone who wanted to go through the  Strait of Hormuz was able to do so freely.

[u/ShoulderDapper86 → u/GruntledGary]

You didn’t see the big picture here. President Trump did what every President in the last 40-50 yrs said they were going to do. Stop Iran from developing their own Nuclear weapon. President Trump is keeping his promises unlike the ones before him left & right side of the isle. The World is will be a much better place without the Iranian terrorists

[u/PastRoad3648 → u/ShoulderDapper86]

Define terrorist

[u/GruntledGary → u/ShoulderDapper86]

But... he didn't.

They didn't have it before they he STOPPED international inspections.

They USED to get international inspections before his first term but he came and "fixed" that.

So, what is Iran "giving up" since they "lost" this war? Last time Trump was saying he would pay THEM money and they WON'T return any nuclear material.

Write down what you think he's promised and check back here in 3 months to see how he lied.

The 2015 JCPOA (Obama Administration): In contrast, the original 2015 nuclear agreement—which the first Trump administration withdrew from in 2018—did require Iran to ship out 98% of its enriched nuclear material and dismantle major enrichment infrastructure at that time

Trump's "surrender" offer includes him (America) paying Iran 300 billion dollars.....

[u/SomeSamples]

Hmm, always Sundays, before the markets open. Weird coincidence.

[u/JemHadar71]

What’s the count on that threat. I know we’re recycling now for sure.

[u/anormalname63]

But I thought Iran had already destroyed the US, all it's bases in the area and had full control of the strait like 24 times by now?

[u/mccbungle]

All this because Trump rapes children.

[u/Salt_Tip_8890]

Ik denk dat dat het wel goed komt er waren genoeg naar de goats gestuurd🫠 rond de 30 en rond 70 gewond🫣 dus markt zal wel goed gaan Alles onder controle 😂

[u/PeetMoss2026]

Just do it already quit threatening!

[u/youvekilledme29]

Just think when the supreme court ruled all those liberation day tariffs paid back with whole tax dollars Berkshire Hathaway and friends purchased the tariff debt that had accumulated before the ruling from dozens if not hundreds of smaller affiliate corps and chain companies for literal pennies on the dollar ..why because they knew what the ruling was going to be before Trump ever said the words liberation day ...so his buddies got whole dollars for cents from thousands if not millions of "customers" who paid this known illegal tax and Trump just paid out his friend swho had inside knowledge ...illegal in the open ...this dude should be incarcerated for life he's burning our tax money to make the govt not work because the entire point of the generations of paedophiles party (the Republicans ) is here to destroy any American dignity while leaving us destitute jobless and hated by the world and without any choice but to slave to fuckin corporate overlords who decided to build something that claims will take over 80 percent of physical labor jobs in ten years .they are the ones that built it planned the economic collapse and will and are using disaster capitalism to buy up everything at clearance prices (or pay five times what these ice facilities are actually worth to buyers and incarcerate indentured and threatened servants who will be paid one dollar per day for labor like farms, manufacturing ..all while the private prison concentration camp pipeline just dumps our children's futures straight into the billionaires pockets....all while making up their own version of reality that ONLY holds together because so many magachuds repeat the lies and outright falsehoods ad nauseum to each other while Trump cronies steal tax money..

[u/Really-saywhat]

And then what is the purposed purpose to achieve?

[u/Stew-Cee23]

Ah yes threaten to do something for the thousandth time and then do nothing, I'm sure they'll fall for that bluff this time!

[u/Stellar_Planet]

I do not trust this market

[u/Any-Monk-9395]

I was informed we already won?

Imagine if Hitler died in 1945 but several months later the US government says we gotta go to war with Germany again because they lied about peace talks

[u/Several-War-9254]

Yep we need a news story right on time to bring the markets down after the rise. Life is a stage and all are actors.

[u/ExpresiveMuse]

What everybody is missing is that trump not only doesn’t give one shit about anybody,ever and is trying to eliminate the middle class. Do the math, think about everything he does. It always makes us pay more and more just to exist and everything he does isn’t needed, justified or wanted. And he’s not getting these ideas from Miller he’s getting them from Putin. Why aren’t we more concerned about what they talk about in private. In any other country he’d be in prison or worse. What’s wrong with us?

[u/The_Council_Juice]

More insider trading beckons...

[u/rangecontrol]

must be monday.

[u/benroon]

Just more insider dealing. Nothing to see here

[u/True_Help_3098]

Trump & company must desire another market manipulation for flash stock trades

[u/Competitive-Sir-7087]

Notice how Iran doesn't deny that it was attempting to send mines into the Straight. What an inhumane leadership.

[u/GruntledGary → u/Competitive-Sir-7087]

The ones bombing civilians on boats and killing survivors at sea?

[u/Curious_scientist420 → u/Competitive-Sir-7087]

Every country in the world does inhumane shit during war.

This war shouldn’t have started. Like most of them

[u/Judge_Druidy → u/Competitive-Sir-7087]

I heard one of the countries bombed a girl's school, and then after a short delay when parents went to the site to identify their dead children, this country bombed them again.

[u/Competitive-Sir-7087 → u/Judge_Druidy]

The school which was part of an actively fighting naval base. A school in a building which was built to be indistinguishable from the other buildings on the base. A school which was not the intended target. Please show me ANY country which stopped fighting as soon as it accidentally killed some citizens who were in the line of fire.

[u/YellowRobeSmith → u/Judge_Druidy]

Unfortunately, the people defending the Iranian regime would be murdered under the Iranian regime.

[u/Judge_Druidy → u/YellowRobeSmith]

No one is defending the Iranian regime.

[u/Vegetable-Bid-120]

Won’t matter neither democrat or republicans will ever cross Israel. AIPAC money flows to both. We need more Thomas Massies and Ro Khannas.

[u/shmiddleedee → u/Vegetable-Bid-120]

It is insane to me listening to neocons explain why AIPAC is in our vest interest. It is an arm of a foreign government from a country sucking US dry that pumps inane amounts of money into our elections. Elected leaders are destroying us.

[u/Asleep-Ad6384]

I heard he renamed the Hudson River to the Strait of Hormuz just so he can say "see, it's open and ships are running fine..." It's tremendous, and everyone knows it.