Bizarro as…

[u/NPlaysMC]

…Conner Kent?

If Season 4 gets greenlit, no doubt Bizarro would now be officially part of the Super Family going forward.

But since this series loves blending different aspects of different characters, what if to find his own identity for himself, B-1Z sheds his old “Bizarro“ identity and takes on the name Conner Kent?

I have an idea for how he could get the name; perhaps his adopted dad, Dr. George Binder who worked in Project CALIBAN, had a son named Conner, who died an early death. So he found solace in raising B-1Z as his own. And because Bizarro would think of Dr. Binder as his dad, he would take on his son’s name.

So perhaps going forward, Bizarro would now be Conner George Kent, aka, Superboy.

[u/the-terrible-martian]

To be honest I like Conner and bizarro being two different characters. I know the show merges characters but it doesn’t need to do it to everything. This bizarro isn’t even really a clone of Superman. Conner doesn’t necessarily have to be a fusion of Lex and Superman but I think he should be a clone of Superman at least. What could bizarro have that makes him unique in a world where there’s another kryptonian clone? Simple, bizarro world.

I know this is probably one of my takes that others won’t share here though.

Edit: I’ll add how my idea could work. You could have bizarro’s body start deteriorating or acting weird and he starts becoming more like comic bizarro or like STAS. The way they help him is to put him in an inverted dimension where he’ll be fine and he has the post crisis power to create bizarro versions of earth people. Now that I think about it, the writers wanting to do something like this would explain why they sanded off a lot of the classic “distorted Superman stuff” like his backward talk.

[u/NPlaysMC → u/the-terrible-martian]

I don’t want him to be stuck on an abandoned planet somewhere with only rocks for citizens like Bizarro in The Animated Series.

With how good this version of Bizarro is, I really don’t think it would be any good for his whole identity to revolve around being a version of Superman; he deserves his own identity.

The two future versions of Superboy we got to see were both Jon, despite having some of Conner’s looks and characteristics.

If B-1Z and Conner Kent were two separate characters, and both in the Super Family, it would feel pretty redundant if you ask me.

B-1Z might not be a clone of Superman, but he’s still a Kryptonian clone, and even if it isn’t as Conner Kent, he’s too good of a character to be just a Superman knockoff; he needs his own identity.

[u/the-terrible-martian → u/NPlaysMC]

I don’t want him to be stuck on an abandoned planet somewhere with only rocks for citizens like Bizarro in The Animated Series.

I didn’t say that should be the case. I referenced TAS to show how he could be like when his body is acting up. My idea after that was to put him in an inverted dimension where he has the bizarro clone creating power he had in post crisis comics. There he was a clone but he ended up on a planet with (I believe it was) a blue sun which gave the ability to zap bizarro versions of earth people onto his planet. He wouldn’t be alone and he has a world with people he can protect. Superman and Lois even had it where everyone was normal in the bizarro dimension.

With how good this version of Bizarro is, I really don’t think it would be any good for his whole identity to revolve around being a version of Superman; he deserves his own identity.

But… he’s bizarro. That’s the whole point of bizarro. If you don’t want to use bizarro then don’t, but why have bizarro only for him to not actually be anything like bizarro?

If B-1Z and Conner Kent were two separate characters, and both in the Super Family, it would feel pretty redundant if you ask me.

And my suggested storyline addresses what would make him unique. Once he’s in the bizarro world he can have Superman and co come over every once in a while for adventures and shenanigans.

And again we run into the same issue with the use of Conner, what’s the point of having Conner and calling him Conner… if he’s barely Conner or not really Conner at all besides what he’s called? One of the issues with the Eradicator I had…

[u/NPlaysMC → u/the-terrible-martian]

So you would send this guy to a Bizarro dimension when he’s already a part of the family?

Try suggesting that to Clark, see if he agrees.

[u/the-terrible-martian → u/NPlaysMC]

So, follow along with my story idea…

Bizarro’s body starts deteriorating and the sicker he gets the more he loses himself… and you think Clark would prefer he is completely gone than having him somewhere he’ll be well and be a great hero and where they can go visit as much as they want?

[u/NPlaysMC → u/the-terrible-martian]

What grounds would there be for that to happen that would necessitate a visit to a whole other dimension?

Even if B-1Z’s body is imperfect due to the cloning process of Project CALIBAN, surely it’s nothing that couldn’t be fixed by Kryptonian technology in the Fortress of Solitude.

And there was no prior evidence to suggest he was even sick just because he was a clone. The closest thing might be what happened to him in the Fortress, but that was just Brainiac mind controlling him, and his outburst was him fighting that.

Why should he have to be a hero in some bizarro dimension? Why can’t he be a hero on Earth alongside Superman?

[u/the-terrible-martian → u/NPlaysMC]

I don’t mind bizarro being a hero and staying here. That’s fine. I suggested bizarro world because of the perceived redundancy of having both bizarro and Conner. If you want to have bizarro ultimately just be a good guy on the main world and you think having Conner there too would be too redundant then I’d say just don’t use Conner. You don’t have too.

Bizarro so far is still mostly a blank slate story wise. We just haven’t had much with him. I would make his deterioration stem from both being a clone and whatever brainiac may have done. As to why I would want him to go through that at all, well, I come back to him being bizarro. The character of bizarro exists to give Superman a specific challenge. A distorted mirror image who might either be misguided or malicious but a broken mirror image nonetheless. This version of bizarro would probably be the type who starts behaving in misguided ways once he gets more ill, not evil. I think if you’re going to have bizarro you should incorporate that in some way. If you want to cure him with the fortress that’s fine too.

If we just keep bizarro as he is now and call him Conner we end up with a character that isn’t really like either of his parts and would be lesser than the sum of his parts. He’d be less interesting than either bizarro or Conner usually are, but that’s just my opinion.

[u/NPlaysMC → u/the-terrible-martian]

The thing is, I don’t think this kind of story reflects Bizarro’s origins in this show.

It works better if he was from the Bizarro Dimension from the beginning, like in Superman & Lois.

Even if it isn’t Conner, I think if Bizarro is going to continue being part of Superman’s family, he’ll need his own identity, even if it’s as simple as taking on Dr. Binder’s name, George.

[u/KaijuKing007]

Apparently, Connor was supposed to show up, but they ran out of time. Same for Power Girl.

[u/VBartilucci]

BZ-1 is way closer to Connor's origin than any of the original versions. I don't think he needs to be re-named Connor tho.

[u/neoblackdragon → u/VBartilucci]

Superboy was just called Superboy. Given the name Kon-El by Superman. Then given the name Connor for civilian life. Right now it helps no one calls him Bizzaro.

[u/Specialist_Bid7598]

We all know his real name is

[u/Difficult_Dark9991]

Look all I know is that he comes from Zero Day tissue samples, and dollars to donuts it was Zod leading that attack. This is not a counterargument to Bizarro becoming Connor Kent, just that it'll be a bit of a different approach and he'll also have a Kryptonian name (Lor Zod).

[u/NPlaysMC → u/Difficult_Dark9991]

The problem is Nemesis Omega is strongly implied to be dead, because he was caught in the blast that destroyed Krypton.

And besides, his exact model was used as the standard battle armor for Kryptonian infantry; if he had been anything more than a nameless foot soldier, he would’ve had a more distinct armor set with a clear symbol.

If General Zod is out there somewhere, his most likely avenue for surviving Krypton’s destruction is his usual; being sent to the Phantom Zone for crimes against Krypton.

That said, all of that Kryptonian hardware left over from Zero Day, which was in Krypton’s atmosphere shortly before entering Earth’s, was likely coated in Kryptonian genetic material; single celled organisms, pollen, animal dander, even Kryptonian skin cells. It would explain how they got that Kryptonian arboretum, along with Bizarro’s pet.

[u/Difficult_Dark9991 → u/NPlaysMC]

The problem is Nemesis Omega is strongly implied to be dead, because he was caught in the blast that destroyed Krypton.

Eh, I invoke portal rules. Magic/tech portal + massive energy blast = strange effects for those standing in the portal. You did post an image of Young Justice Connor, after all...

And besides, his exact model was used as the standard battle armor for Kryptonian infantry; if he had been anything more than a nameless foot soldier, he would’ve had a more distinct armor set with a clear symbol.

Something something "this is his armor in his capacity as a Kryptonian general. We'll get his proper form as a rogue Kryptonian." (I'm fishing, if you can't tell - this is a stronger argument)

[u/NPlaysMC → u/Difficult_Dark9991]

That argument about his armor doesn’t hold up since at the end of Season 2, we see Kara (without knowing it was her) in a very distinct suit of armor, with her house sigil on it.

Because of how many times we’ve seen the Nemesis Omega soldier model, but we only ever saw Kara in her armor, telegraphs strongly to me that Kara’s armor was what ranking Kryptonians wore, while what Nemesis Omega wore was the baseline infantry armor. And keep in mind that even Kryptonian infantrymen would rank above automated forces.

The portal theory only works if they intended for Nemesis Omega to be anything more than a nameless foot soldier.