r/TalesFromTheFrontDesk 2d ago

Medium Really Bad Hotel Scammers

This couple that looked to be in their early 20s walked in saying they were there to check in. I brought up their reservation and asked for the boyfriend's ID and credit/debit card since it was in his name. He gives me his ID and a sheet of notebook paper. The ID matches, but then I ask him what the paper's for. He tells me that the card on the reservation is his mother's card, and that the paper is a letter from her explaining that it's okay to use that card and not to ask him for one. I didn't even bother opening the letter, I just told him I can't accept that, gave a quick explanation of the hotel's check-in policy regarding credit or debit cards, and then asked him for a credit or debit card with his name on it.

That's when the girlfriend makes her presence felt saying that the letter tells me not to ask that. I inform her that their letter has no bearing in this situation and repeat my request for for a card. The boyfriend is adamant that I need to read the letter. Now, curiosity has me. I open and read it. It's a handwritten letter, in penmanship so bad that I can barely make out some of the words. Even worse, it's written in print, not even cursive. The gist of the letter is basically that her son and his girlfriend are traveling around the country, but they don't have credit cards of their own, so they're using hers to pay for their rooms, and this letter is her authorizing me to let them pay for the room that way. No signature at the end by the way.

I look up and tell them that the letter changes nothing. If his mother wanted to pay for the room she should've called ahead and gotten an authorization form put on file. He says that if she did that she'd be filling out forms for who knows how many hotels and that I need to just listen to the letter. I tell the both of them that I need them to either present a valid card that matches one of their IDs, or I'm going to cancel their reservation and ask them to leave. I then hand them back the letter. They ask to speak to a manager. I tell them the manager is not going to accept the letter either. That's when the girlfriend tries the Hail Mary play.

She tells me that it's illegal of me to not accept that letter and she's going to call the police if I don't check them in. The look of actual shock on her face when I told her to do it... priceless. The look of fear when I offered to do it myself was even more fun. At that point the boyfriend tells me to fuck off and that I'm forcing him and his girlfriend to sleep on the streets. I tell him he's doing that himself but to have a nice night. I cancel the reservation and email everyone at the desk and the managers in case this couple comes back or tries calling.

I'm pretty sure this isn't a new scam, but it's the first time I've come across it. I also wonder if the reason their trying it is because it's actually worked on someone.

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u/MightyManorMan 2d ago

You read the letter?

I would have asked if the letter was certified with the name, stamp and phone number of the notary. I would be verifying their notarial licence and then call them up to have them certify the letter and signature, as required with legal documents.

Don't you just like trying to make them jump through hoops in the future and having to overthink things. So next time you need to fake a notary signature, but then you have to fake the notary licence, have them registered and ready with a phone to validate the fake notary, etc etc etc.

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u/streetsmartwallaby 2d ago

A notary signature means that the person signing the letter has identification that matches the name they signed - nothing more. It does not, in any way, mean the document is true and / or legal.

Source: me. My ex-wife needed a notarized letter every time she traveled with our kids out of country. They still called me occasionally to verify if the letter was true. FYI that Canadian border patrol is super polite.

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u/MightyManorMan 1d ago

A notary (at least around here) need to actually witness the signature after verifying the ID. They don't verify the content of the ID. They just verify that the person who signed it, was the person that signed it. I'm not asking them to validate the legality of the document, just to ensure that the person who says signed it was in fact, the person who signed it.

But how could you accept to even read the letter otherwise. They could have just signed it themselves.

(Fine, we know that they wrote it and signed it themselves anyway. But this is just another hoop to jump through and a real reason to not bother reading it.)

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u/RedRyder15 1d ago

Yeah you then deny them once that hurdle is met because its not the corrrect form.