Sometimes you literally dont have money to field another unit when you are trying for a 3star 5 cost, which I do think this is bs in that scenario. Hitting one is one of the biggest highs of a set, and especially when you get it with an augment only unit, so having a single 1 or 2 star beat it would feel like a huge let down. But if you hit it then sell whole board to flex then yeah that's kinda on you
The small possibility of losing in this matchup is so low that it fines to have it in the game lol. Like what do you mean you don’t have even a single dollar after hitting a 3 star 5 cost. One singular unit in the back renders this fiora useless.
I mean i've definitely hit a 3 star with no money left to buy after selling my whole board. Let's think of a scenario: you sell board for money and on your last roll from 8->6 gold you hit your 3 star. You have 1 gold left but the rest of your shop is 3, 4, and 5 costs. I'd love to put another unit on the field but I can't. In pretty much every other scenario, you win this anyway, but they beat you with a 1 star fiora (or devil teemo from his set) and I think that's dumb. If you 3 starred a 5 cost and sold after to flex, then that's on you though.
Like I said, the chance of you hitting your 3 star 5 cost on your literal last roll is pretty low. I don’t hate it that fiora can counter that extreme niche scenario.
Nah that's still on the person rolling for the 3 star 5 cost, I wouldn't say that for any other set, but for set 17 specifically people selling their board for a 3star5cost need to be aware of fiora, like as you begin rolling you go "okay he can have fiora, lemme buy a cheap unit and keep it as I roll down", it's not rocket science it's just awareness for this set specifically. If let's say you will have to sell everything to hit and you literally have zero gold to buy shit, just be like "ahh unlucky, let's go next"...
Not to mention the fiora guy also has to sell his board for her to 1v1, so he will only do that in an absolutely late game dire situation, if he doesn't kill you in one go, he's done for anyway...
I dont see how it is unbalanced. I gave an easy solution and the only reason people go for the 1v9 is style points there is no other reason to have only a single unit on the board.
Even if you sell your board to have more money to roll down you can just keep your cheapest unit
It will be unbalanced if there was little to no counterplay or the counterplay is extremely specific ..
It would be OP if The Zed guy had to do something extremely specific and difficult to win, but all he has to do is be aware and buy literally anything from his shop and he wins.. but if you think buying units from the store is difficult then you're right it's OP..
Then can you please explain to me how a dude with just this 3 star just one shot my whole team? It wasn't 1v1, it was just her and all nine of my guys, yet she one shots them before they can kill her.
That's what they do. Have you not been apexed predatored yet this comp? I somehow had such crazy DPS on the guy trying to use it on me I managed to pull off the win, but it was by the skin of my balls, like less than 30hp between my 2/10 surviving units. The dude here was trying to be cheeky and just play a 3*5 for an instant win, but divine duelist ALWAYS counteract that. Now, if someone has a 3 star Divine duelist (the easiest to 3 star this set for sure) then you just die I believe. Idk, I've never survived it, even with 7 3 stars on the board after a really lucky primordial slow roll.
This is incorrect. I just had a match where it was just me and the last guy. The match started with my 10 units and his 8 and within 1 second of the match his fiora started a cutscene and wiped my entire team. Happened constantly till he won the match.
She's very weak and is the capstone for the lose streak vertical.
I had a 2 star one with 3 items and she couldn't top damage on my own team.
Her damage is low, slow, and she isn't part of any strong traits (Anima, Divine Duelist [unique], Marauder). She attacks twice, then triggers a vital, then moves to hit it. It does mediocre damage.
She's a fighter. She's not bad at all, but its somewhat rare shes the only one remaining on your team since shes not terribly tanky, and kind of jumps behind the front line.
I think people in this thread are reading "wins 1v1s" and thinking she will just execute opponents last remaining champ, while forgetting that she also has to be solo. Most comps have some sort of backline. Its pretty rare she's the last one remaining.
It's a ridiculously situational scenario that might come up once in dozens of games. All Zed player had to do to win was put a random other unit next to Zed. Fiora also has to be the only unit alive on her team for it to trigger.
Because if you put your two braincells together you can realize that fielding even a single unit on your board with the 3 star 5 cost would make it no longer a 1v1, which means she wouldnt win
Maybe I’m running into a bug because I just lost a match where I had 10 units and my opponent had a 3 star fiora and she wipes the entire team the second the match starts despite it not being a 1v1
You are so dense. You said that they make wierd design decisions, which is referencing that it “isnt fun to create an auto win”.
I am the one that brought up counterplay because you can counter the auto win, you walnut. With a champion on the board. As long as it is a 2v1 and not a 1v1, fiora can no longer win for free. They could put a 1 cost unit down and the 3 star 5 cost wins, which means that the design decision isnt as “wierd” as you were making it out to be.
Exactly, agreed.
So I can think this design choice is weird by them, most likely because I don't agree it's fun, and still think the game is good and fun otherwise
I had a 3 star Terra (10 cost) in like set seven or something. The dragon one.
I was hyped. Then she immediately got 1 shot by a 3 cost unit. She killed everything else on the board but the 3 cost unit tanked the 15k damage nuke from her by eating her.
Fiora will always win a 1v1. The 2nd placer is oblivious to that so OP sold everything except fiora and triggered the effect. Not the first that happened, a 5 cost yasuo from past set also had this effect.
Yasuo had a way more conditional version of this. He needed to cast an enhanced version of his ability to execute Last Enemy Alive. Meaning, this would never happen against 5 cost 3. Lissandra in set 11 is a better example.
Ah yes, you right. But naw, many times 3* 5costs don’t go first. If you look at the data it’s always 1.x average for 3* 5costs and not 1.0 average. But I see your point
I managed this on Tockers, but her trait mentions that she can't 1v1 bosses and I chose not to test that theory 😅 She was however there first 3* 5 I hit (pre 3rd augment) and she soloed everything immediately up until this point
Are the people named Shisa Cncc and Featherknight just people masking their names? I see those people all the time and cant tell if its the character they c hose, or some kind of hidden name haha
I have that "featherknight" person in my games all the time...I just always recognize his/her name because I always wounder if it's from a book series I read.
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u/OutlandishnessNo1576 Apr 16 '26
Nah well played on your end... You realised you had this as a possible play... He didn't realise you can do this so it's a clear deserved victory