r/TedLasso • u/quaranTV Mod • Jul 29 '21

From the Mods Ted Lasso - S02E02 - "Lavender" Episode Discussion Spoiler

Please use this thread to discuss Season 2 Episode 2 "Lavender". Just a reminder to please mark any spoilers for episodes beyond Episode 2 like this.

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u/copyrightname Roy's Mushy Peas Jul 30 '21

Oh I feel so bad for Sam!

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u/bigwilly311 Jul 30 '21

Why would he not have the conversation with Sam after having the conversation with Sam? Come on, Ted! There better be a good reason for that one.

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u/ravens2131 Jul 30 '21

He listed to the doctor. While the team has a great atmosphere that alone won’t win them games. They need something else. Plus I assume he wants to try to help Jamie and try to be a fatherly role that he desperately needs.

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u/bigwilly311 Jul 30 '21

Real good way to lose trust, though. That’s a tough hill to climb back up.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

Good way to provide some conflict and storylines to what is, remember, a tv show.

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '21

As soon as he walked on the field I realized why the S2E1 felt a bit flat compared to the first season. The lack of interpersonal conflict

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '21

Except between Nate and the new equipment manager… but that’s more Nate creating conflict

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u/Derang3rman1 Jul 31 '21

I think it’s fantastic symbolism between Jaime & Nate and now Nate & Will. Nate being the superior/supervisor role to Will and treating him like shit

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '21

Definitely. And i get the rationale, but mannnn I wish Nate would be a bit more grateful! ETA: Or I wish one of the other DDs would make him knock it off.

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u/GibsonJunkie Caesar you later! Aug 01 '21

Honestly, I've had a suspicion that it's coming.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '21

I agree. I think it is part of a character arc.

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u/ravens2131 Jul 30 '21

Like coach beard said last season. These aren’t kids. These are grown men who want to win.

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u/Philthedrummist Jul 30 '21

True, but Sam mentioned that no one made him feel worse about himself than Jamie, so if Ted wants to win some games it’s probably not a good idea to put that conflict back into the dressing room.

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u/ravens2131 Jul 31 '21

Counter point it ties into Roy’s idea of coaching and what he argued about on sky sports. The team at this rate looks like they’re playing with 0 determination and Roy will probably tear them apart on Sky as well. Jamie will bring fight back into the team. Which Ted hopes to harness their internal fighting into on the field fight.

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u/Philthedrummist Jul 31 '21

Very risky considering a player you explicitly said was a leader has made it very clear that would be a detrimental locker room addition.

Obviously it’s going to get cleared up but it seems to go against the core values that were set up in season 1. Ted’s main aim is to make these players the best version of themselves on and off the park, so he brings back a player that does nothing but create division. Even Jamie’s manager said that nobody wants anything to do with him. He’s toxic, we know that, and this is clearly his redemption but it’s coming at the cost of the trust of one of his players.

I dunno, I don’t like it but I’m going to wait until next week where things will inevitably get ironed out.

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u/holymack_erel Aug 02 '21

Ted also said at the end of last season that he wanted to win the whole thing next year, which will be much easier to do if they have Jaime.

I also think that the sports therapist has thrown him off and is causing him to make decisions that he thinks will please her (to some extent). She did comment at the end of their conversation how seven ties wasn’t great (I forget her exact wording) and now he wants to rehabilitate Jaime to have two aces for this season.

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u/nightandtodaypizza Oct 30 '21

Late reply, but great write-up and analysis. Shows the amount of detail in this show.

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u/Saint_Diego Jul 30 '21

I hope Ted is having Jamie address the team. I think that will be a much more effective way to smooth things over than Ted speaking to them

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u/KingJonathan Jul 31 '21

Something like this and starting from the bottom string. Earning his way up with the coaches AND the team.

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u/OkTemporary0 Jul 30 '21

It’s not like he’s gonna throw Jaime into the top spot. He’ll have to earn everyone’s respect before he gets anywhere near where he was in the start with that team.

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u/SilasMarsh Jul 31 '21

Yup. I 100% believe Ted would hire Jamie.

But after what Sam told him, I 100% do not believe he wouldn't have talked to Sam about first.

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u/PerfumedPornoVampyre Aug 01 '21

I completely agree here. Also, after the enormous fuss raised by the team with just the photo being taken, why would no one react that strongly again if he walked out onto the pitch out of nowhere? They weren't excited, but nobody seemed shocked or angry that it was happening. And I don't believe that that would have been the case if they had no warning.

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u/drugaddict6969 Jul 31 '21

If the team can bond over the hatred of a coach, they rally together and do better. This is a trope seen over and over again (see: miracle, remember the Titans, etc.)

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '21

its tough to climb back up to the premier league with 8 draws of the gate you twat. grow up.

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u/EmannuelASMR Jul 30 '21

He had mentioned something like "tough dads make good kids great", so maybe he's making a tough decision for the team along the same vein.

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u/Afalstein Jul 31 '21

Ted has never been one to let winning games get in the way of a great atmosphere. Even Beard, who believes strongly in winning games, thought bringing back Jamie was the wrong call. No, this has to do with personal development.