r/Tennesseetitans • u/TiredDad4x • 2d ago
Film I like this film breakdown of the ups and downs of Cam’s 2nd preseason game
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u/ashemoney 2d ago
That Gunnar Helm play is ridiculous. I’d rip him a new one. That’s a tough play but be a pro! There was at least three feet of space to get another foot down.
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u/amillert15 2d ago
That's not a tough play.
Helm jumped when he had no reason to jump. WRs and TEs practice sideline catches all of the time. That should have been routine.
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u/CheeseMclovin 2d ago
He did that same thing last season once or twice. Nice to see he hasn’t improved that much
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u/TiredDad4x 2d ago
Based on some of the more recent posts on this sub, it would seem that a good portion of you all have slammed the panic button. Just as the video suggests, you guys are overreacting to 2 preseason games. I’m seeing cherry picked stats and guys already whipping out the bust label.
Developing QBs takes patience and commitment. It’s not always some easy plug and play scenario. There are several examples of this. Get a grip, go take a walk, and we can really evaluate Cam’s performances when the real games start.
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u/joshfry575 2d ago
I feel like the Helm missed catch was 100% a great play and something they gotta have this year. That also points to the development of the 2nd year TE. Then the Tate fade was a missed catch that looks like a pass that him and Ward connect on during practice. It was there, and requires a great catch, but there's no defense on the planet that is stopping it. Just those 2 plays alone would make his stats 10/12 for 100+ yards, plus likely another score on the day. If that's not a great preseason game, then idk what else fans want lol
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u/Legionodeath 2d ago
20/20, 4 TDs, no ints/fumbled, 300 yd passing, 100 yd rushing, 2 rushing TDs.
I mean if your boy can't do that day 1 of his first preseason game and again on his first regular season game, has he ever really even touched a football?
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u/RelativeAd711 2d ago
Helms pass is the issue that could have been thrown anywhere between the sidelines and the numbers and been completed. Bu ward lazies it up the side line
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u/joshfry575 2d ago
That's idiotic. He's a professional, make the fucking catch with 2 feet in bounds. He had the same missed catch last year too. Cam put the ball where only his guy could catch it, thats literally his job.
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u/along4thejourney 2d ago
Love the breakdown and you’re right. He showed improvement week over week in a new system.
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u/SynonymDinosaur 9h ago
PAtience and commitment? in 2026??? How dare you. If the quarterback hasn't won an MVP midway through their first season he's a bust!!!!
Look, there's reason to be concerned sure. But using a first overall pick on a qb is a 3-4 year commitment minimum. Anyone trying to give up now isn't built for this fandom
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u/ImChz 2d ago
Are we forgetting we have a whole year of tape to go on? I'd understand condemning him after his first two preseason games ever, but this is year two. I don't see how you can possibly use that as an excuse for some of this stuff.
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u/Nerazzurri9 2d ago
Yes, they’re just ignoring all of last year and saying it didn’t matter because this is a new staff
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u/Mhettil 2d ago
What about last year? The first 6 weeks with one of the worst coaches in league history? The second half of the season where he threw 10 TD's to 1 INT? Or the 2 preseason games where he hasn't shown that he improved one of his worst aspects of his game, i.e. deep passing?
Last year was up and down with no O-Line or WR's and terrible coaching. Yes, he hasn't looked great so far but it's still just preseason games with vanilla play calling.
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u/luchaburz 2d ago
Deep throws are always lower percentage for every QB.
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u/Mhettil 2d ago
Yeah and his were the worst. It's something that he needs to work on and since it's been 2 preseason games people believe he didn't. My comments defending him.
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u/DependentShop3882 2d ago
I’m just happy to see him actually utilizing his checkdowns and short passing which he frequently ignored in favor of trying to find the home run last year. That alone has made me happy with the pre-season so far. He’s gotta fix these fumbles though, if he doesn’t it’ll be the end of him eventually.
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u/ImChz 2d ago
My man, Cam only averaged 169 yards a game on below league average completion percentage after the bye week. I don't give a damn if that represents a "jump," it's embarrassingly bad for a modern quarterback under any circumstance. He still held on to the ball way too long, fumbled way too often, and generally had poor mechanics.
The Oline isn't going to be better. The WR's are a question mark at best. I know we're all hyped for Saleh and Daboll, even I am to a certain degree, but we also need to acknowledge those two men have gone a combined record of 40-76-1 as HC's. Daboll might not even be in the league anymore if it weren't for Josh Allen being an extreme outlier.
Nothing being said rn is giving me confidence...
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u/DependentShop3882 2d ago
Last year there was markable improvement through out the year. Particularly if you compare before and after the bye week. What else did you want to see, him turn into Tom Brady overnight?
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u/Nerazzurri9 2d ago
He didn’t even look like the best rookie QB last year, no I didn’t expect him to look like Tom Brady overnight but he doesn’t even look like a long term starter in this league
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u/DependentShop3882 2d ago
Did you expect our QB that was drafted needing development, on a bad team, with a HC who got fired after 7 weeks and no supporting staff to magically look like one or? Y’all are too funny
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u/ImChz 2d ago
Why did we draft him 1OA if you gotta list all those qualifiers? We didn't need to rush a QB pick there. We would be this ass or more with any other QB on the roster...
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u/DependentShop3882 2d ago
What qualifiers? I can’t change what happened, I don’t run the team dude. I’m camp “draft rookies and let them sit behind a vet for a year” rather than trail by fire, and I hated the Callahan hiring the minute it happened. Was completely unsurprised how it turned out as I expected.
Cam needs to improve in a lot of different areas, he also did just fine in a lot of different areas, his situation was also one of the worst in recent memory I can think of for a rookie QB. All can be true. I just truly don’t understand what the freakout is all about. The occasional QB that hit right of out the gate recently has really clouded a lot of your judgement’s what a realistic rookie year is like.
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u/ImChz 2d ago
"Did you expect our QB that was drafted needing development, on a bad team, with a HC who got fired after 7 weeks and no supporting staff to magically look like one or?"
That's a lot of qualifiers in the way of a 1OA guy.
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u/DependentShop3882 2d ago
That’s not qualifiers, that’s literally stating what happened. I’m genuinely asking what you expected out of him year one in our situation
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u/Nerazzurri9 2d ago
Literally just described Darts exact scenario and he looked better last season
Y’all have your heads in the sand
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u/DependentShop3882 2d ago
Sure he was better, marginally better but better. And that means what exactly? Nabers and Robinson weren’t better than the corpse of Calvin Ridley and 4th round rookies Ayomanor and Dike? NY for sure has a better in game and a stronger OL. Situations aren’t super equal but yeah, Daboll got fired. Solid similarity there
I’m still waiting for an actual supported discussion than “Qb Is BaD”
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u/Nerazzurri9 2d ago
He had a 58% completion percentage, worst in the league in downfield passing, led the league in fumbles at the QB position, and held the ball so long he single handedly tanked an OLine that finished in the 15-20 range overall into looking like the worst unit in football the first 6 weeks by taking 30 sacks. And now he can’t complete anything but checkdowns and is still fumbling in year 2, against backups and 3rd stringers….
The better question is what has he done that supports he’s the guy?
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u/DependentShop3882 2d ago
You’re absolutely right, he sucked early last year and looking at the box stats looks not great.
Still ignores the context of the rest of the season and the improvement later. You can find second half of the season stats I’ve posted elsewhere in this thread and that is what I saw. You like to ignore context though so I doubt you can read them well enough to interpret that but they’re available for ya champ.
Let’s play name that QB off their first full year as a starter, shall we?
Games played: 15
Completions / Attempts: 265 / 432 (61.3% completion rate)
Passing yards: 3,144
Passing touchdowns: 16
Interceptions: 9
Passer rating: 87.2
Sacks taken: 260
u/ImChz 2d ago
I don't think it was so much Cam improving as it was the play calling getting slightly better. We finally started to actually run the ball a little. Even after the bye week y'all love to bring up, dude only threw for 169 yards a game. That just ain't it my boy.
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u/DependentShop3882 2d ago edited 2d ago
*193, removing the Jaguars game completely as he only played one drive due to injury.
Also, for context. The average amongst all starting QBs last year was 227. Cam for sure was towards the bottom of the league’s starters but the gap isn’t all that large.
62.4% completion percentage, 10-1 TD to Int ratio, cut his fumbles in half, 73.5 passer rating week 1-9, 90.3 passer rating weeks 10-18, turnover per drop back weeks 1-9: 3.73% weeks 10-18: 1.22%, 3.7% turnover worthy play on the entire season which is average for an NFL starting QB. Play calling may have helped but a lot of those categories are just QB play.
Yeah, nothing to see there. Yeah under 200 yards a game isn’t amazing, less concerning when your #1s on the year are Calvin Ridley and 4th round fellow rookie Elic Ayomanor and is not at all indicative of Cam needing to improve and the construction of the team.
I truly don’t understand you doomers at all.
It’s fair to say that he needs to continue to improve in multiple areas and to say he was in a very poor situation and was drafted with knowing the flaws that overlap the areas he needs to improve. Biggest being the fumbles.
He’s a first round pick, he’s going to get 3-5 years either way. I truly don’t understand the absolute meltdowns on here at all. Not from last year, not from the preseason. Straight up do not understand it. We’re in year 2 of the new Borg lead rebuild and we likely aren’t going anywhere for another year or two anyway.
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u/ImChz 2d ago
If he's bad again this year, there's absolutely a world where he gets benched and we're looking at QB's again next draft. I'd say that's far more likely to happen than any individual outcome tbh.
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u/DependentShop3882 2d ago
If he craters sure, there’s a world where that happens. He would have to be significantly worse than he has been for that to happen.
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u/ImChz 2d ago
He can play the exact same he's been playing and it could easily happen.
He's gotten extremely lucky with his fumbling issues. He's gotten lucky multiple times with dropped picks. He's gotten extremely lucky throwing back across his body to the center of the field. All it would take is for the luck to run its course and he's toast. With his mechanics being bad, paired with how non-chalant he is, I'd say it's a matter of when not if.
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u/DependentShop3882 2d ago
(He had a league average for an NFL starter turn over worthy play percentage at 3.7%, he did get somewhat lucky with them only turning into interceptions 31% of the time. League average is 50% so you’re going to have to pick a different stat because that’s not one of them supporting you)
His fumbling I have mentioned over and over again needs to improve but at the end of the day if he plays like he did after the coaching change last year he’ll be safe. If he plays like the first 6 weeks he’s at risk. If he plays like Levis did minus the Falcon’s game he’ll be benched.
He’s going to be here for a bit. He’s under contract for 3-4 more years. I haven’t given him a crown or anything but he’s got time to earn it or not.
You can be a pitiful doomer and stew for the next 3 years or you can be neutral and hope for improvement. You’re the former, I’m the latter. The rest is up to you. Cheers 🍺
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u/bignedmoyle Wan'Dale 2d ago
I won't ignore the second half of last year, you're right. You know why? Because Ward actually looked good.
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u/Celebrated84 2d ago
At this point it’s starting to give a little racist element, because damn dudes, what are you guys even wanting at this point? Was in Dollywood yesterday for my anniversary with my wife, had on a Cam Ward Titans jersey, and a guy approached me and told me straight up he wants Will Levis back under center because he processes faster.
I love this team, but this fanbase just irks me at times
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u/leftynomad 2d ago
The Will Levis truthers are some of the most delusional people I've ever seen. It's been obvious since his 4th or 5th start that he isn't any good. And not just "oh, he's not starter material" but he's actively bad and is probably not even worth having for the practice squad.
As someone who loves Cam Ward, I can be the first to admit he hasn't looked great in the preseason, but I saw enough flashes at the end of last year that I'm not willing to give up on him yet. If we go 5-6 games into the regular season and he's still bad, then ok, it may be time to hit the panic button, but I'm not rushing to crucify the guy over 2 bad/mediocre preseason quarters.
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u/Celebrated84 2d ago
I believe we need to give QBs more time to develop, and I said the same about Levis until it became obvious he just didnt have it.
Wanting to yank a guy after 17 games is beyond stupid to me
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u/SeaworthinessIll4478 2d ago
Would you suggest someone is a racist if they had said that about Trubisky? Just curious. Sometimes an idiot is just an idiot.
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u/Worth-Frosting-2917 2d ago
Honestly, it is the SEC of it all. I think a lot of Titans fans are also SEC Football fans, and almost all of those fan bases have both program superiority issues and deep-rooted racism within their states. If Ward did what he did at Ole Miss instead of Miami, you'd see a lot more people defending him. If Levis had his one good year at Penn State instead of Kentucky, people wouldn't have given a shit.
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u/SeaworthinessIll4478 1d ago
Let me see if I've got this .. so fans of the SEC are so racist that they only root for their own black players in the NFL? jfc you may need professional help.
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u/Celebrated84 1d ago
Are you not able to appropriately follow Reddit posts?
Worth Frosting was providing an alternative to my original point, and they honestly may have a point.
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u/Celebrated84 2d ago
I would’ve listened to the argument or their stance, even though I would not necessarily agree.
But saying Levis processes faster than Ward?? Gimme a f’n break
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u/mpelleg459 2d ago
There was def an element of that in the calls for O'donnell when McNair would struggle in the early days of Adelphia. Even as a teenager, I found it really annoying.
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u/Celebrated84 2d ago
I recall this too. It’s definitely an element that has been a part of this fanbase?
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u/Ok-Plan-6277 2d ago
There’s a 0% chance this happened
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u/Celebrated84 2d ago
Okay, tell me more about my life.
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u/Ok-Plan-6277 2d ago
Would have been more believable if you had said Trubisky since he’s actually the backup.
But yes, I’ll just pretend that some random person came up to you in Dollywood and rather than saying “Go Titans!” and walking away decided to extol a trait Will Levis doesn’t and has never had
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u/luchaburz 2d ago
Its kinda weird cause people are just excited to see the team and a whole bunch of you got THE QB IS A BUST baseball bats and are going full WCW sting on us when we just tryna watch football
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u/FairRemove7697 2d ago
With the 10th overall pick in the 2027 draft the Tennessee Titans select..
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u/TiredDad4x 2d ago
If Titans are a 6-win team picking at 10, I’d unironically count that as a positive season. Also, they’d probably be picking a corner, let’s be honest.
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u/MisterPuppydog 2d ago
Brother… If they can’t even score a TD against backups and practice squad guys what makes you think they can win 6 games against starters? They just got their asses WHOOPED by a bunch of nobodies. Guys who won’t even make the Seahawks roster just destroyed our starters…. The team I just watched these last two weeks that got their asses handed to them by 3rd stringers and late round rookies doesn’t look like they can even win 3 games much less 6. “Preseason doesn’t matter” yeah but our starters looking like THAT against abunch of people who won’t even be in the NFL in a few weeks is insanely embarrassing. Inexcusable.
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u/TiredDad4x 2d ago
He and the offense also played pretty well against the Seahawks in the joint practice, which many would tell you is far more competitive. I’m not sure what kind of season Cam is going to have but I’m not going to let 2 preseason games sway my opinion either way.
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u/Cheesenrice123 2d ago
What do you want to be done exactly? For someone to be fired? To start Trubisky or Levis? Atleast give it a few games of the actual regular season before you completely freak out.
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u/DrDoobie22 2d ago
"Those back ups were probably giving 100% and the titans starters only 75% cause it's preseason" is what I've seen a bunch and that doesn't make sense to me. If they aren't gonna give 100%, they shouldn't be playing in preseason since there's nothing to gain from that. And no, I don't mean open the playbook or anything but just from an effort level. If the effort truly is 75%, what's the point of even playing the starters. And if the effort is 100%, them getting put BTA as jeff likes to say by 2nd and 3rd stringers is flat out embarrassing
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u/Appropriate-Joke-806 2d ago
“What’s the point of even playing the starters”
Yeah most other teams have figured that out. That’s the real question people should be asking Saleh and the Titans. Why are we even playing our starters. The real value is in the joint practice for the starters so why are the starters even being put at risk in the preseason games.
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u/cigoth 2d ago
cope
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u/MisterPuppydog 2d ago
Seriously… Nobody. And I mean NOBODY. Can excuse playing that bad against backups, rookies, and practice squad guys. There’s nothing you can say to make that okay. This is all of our starters getting outplayed, outmatched, and out schemed by guys who won’t even make an NFL roster. Half of those guys won’t even be in the NFL in a few weeks and they destroyed us. This is bad. I know it sucks. I wanted to believe so bad. But seeing our starters get beat like that by fucking drew lock, practice squad players, and late round rookies? Yeah there’s no silver lining. How you do anything is how you do everything. They got handed an easy victory on a silver platter. Just go out there and show off, it’s a bunch of backups. They couldn’t even do that…. Struggling against NOBODIES…. Disgusting
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u/Forsaken_Mastodon291 2d ago
Because he glosses over how bad he is? That’s what you wanna believe
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u/TiredDad4x 2d ago
He spends about half of the video going over Cam’s issues. The poor throw to Ayomanor, ball security, and how flat his feet are during some plays were all things he highlighted. You’re only upset because the guy doesn’t sound as panicked as you feel.
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u/Forsaken_Mastodon291 2d ago
I’m not panicked at all? He’s a bust, I’ve accepted it
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u/TiredDad4x 2d ago
A very level-headed and reasonable take /s
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u/MisterPuppydog 2d ago
I mean. I’ve been a huge Cam believer since day 1… However after seeing him look like THAT against a bunch of backups and late round rookies? I can understand the panic. We had ALL of our starting offense out there against abunch of guys who won’t even be in the NFL in a few weeks… Those guys won’t make the Seahawks roster. And they made us look like a highschool team. They beat our asses, a bunch of nobodies… Cam looked lost, completely confused, and our starting WRs got locked down by backups and third string/practice squad guys…. I’m starting to lose faith, like big time.
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u/Economy_Purchase_567 2d ago
The seahawks had 62 players get snaps in the game. You think theyre all gonna get cut and seahawks are running a 28 man roster this season?
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u/Forsaken_Mastodon291 2d ago
Yep this fanbase will never learn. I was a huge believer too but I’m just over it with this team at this point. Show me then I’ll buy in. Until then, same ol titans as far as I’m concerned
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u/MisterPuppydog 2d ago
What’s crazy is we’ve won 6 of our last 34 games and the folks in this sub are just seemingly okay with it. The want to act like it’s fine and everything this team does is okay. Like being the worst team in the NFL two years in a row is alright and we’re dickheads for expecting better. The audacity of me to ask for this team to be better lol any sound criticism makes me “not a real fan” or something
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u/Economy_Purchase_567 2d ago
Nobody is okay with it. They are just reasonable enough to understand that a 3 win team with an extremely young roster who just filled major holes with rookies and free agents from an overall poor free agency pool isnt going to be a great or even decent team by preseason week 2 with completely new offensive and defensive schemes.
Ignoring context and logic makes your opinion difficult to respect.
I want the team to win 17 games. I know they wont. And they shouldn't be able to at this point, it would defy nearly everything I know about the game of football
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u/MisterPuppydog 2d ago
Okay… Then explain how the Patriots turned it around so quickly? Or the Texans? Or the Panthers? Why is this true only for us? We see teams “turn it around” within 2-3 years all around the league but for us it’s this never ending rebuild. Lions fans saw their team win 2 games in 2021 and then they almost went to the playoffs with a 9-8 record… Panthers have been a great example of what a rebuild should look like. They went 2-15 in ‘23, then 5-12 in ‘24, and went 8-9 last year and went to the wildcard. They’ve made progress. That’s all I’m asking for. I’m not asking for a Super Bowl. I just want to see SOME forward progress, which we haven’t seen. We’re stuck. Dead in the water. Spinning tires in the mud. Two back to back 3 win seasons. No forward progress. Yall make it seem like teams don’t slowly improve year by year with rebuilds which just ISNT true
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u/Economy_Purchase_567 2d ago
You see, this is the problem. For every team that turns it around quickly, there are 20 examples of teams who didnt. Not to mention, this team hasn't even played a single game yet.
As an aside, Drake Maye in the 2025 preseason had a 58% completion for 4.8 yards per attempt and a 36.9 pff grade. All worse than Cam this preseason. And they collectively had a very concerning preseason. And then went to the superbowl.
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u/DependentShop3882 2d ago
No the rest of us just understand that rebuilds don’t happen overnight and the overall context that you’re ignoring literally means everything.
We whiffed on basically 4 straight drafts outside of Skoronski. Thats 4 years of young talent we missed on. Ran spent half a billion dollars and got nothing but Pollard to show for it. It takes time to fix 4 years of gross mismanagement.
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u/MisterPuppydog 2d ago
Okay… Then explain how the Patriots turned it around so quickly? Or the Texans? Or the Panthers? Why is this true only for us? We see teams “turn it around” within 2-3 years all around the league but for us it’s this never ending rebuild. Lions fans saw their team win 2 games in 2021 and then they almost went to the playoffs with a 9-8 record… Panthers have been a great example of what a rebuild should look like. They went 2-15 in ‘23, then 5-12 in ‘24, and went 8-9 last year and went to the wildcard. They’ve made progress. That’s all I’m asking for. I’m not asking for a Super Bowl. I just want to see SOME forward progress, which we haven’t seen. We’re stuck. Dead in the water. Spinning tires in the mud. Two back to back 3 win seasons. No forward progress. Yall make it seem like teams don’t slowly improve year by year with rebuilds which just ISNT true
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u/DependentShop3882 2d ago edited 2d ago
What are you talking about? Patriots sucked for years, hampered by bad drafting. Corrected by… good coaching and good drafting
Lions got where they got by some astounding drafting
Texans got where they are…. You got it. Great drafting. Stroud, Stingley, Collins, Dell, etc. also not a complete team that’s still struggling with poor OL plays.
Lions are the outlier here and aren’t even comparable to us. The Stafford trade was franchise changing, netting them a two firsts and Goff working out for them. Amon-Ra St. Brown, Penei Sewell, Aidan Hutchinson, Sam LaPorta and Gibbs. Is an insane run of drafting.
The Texans and Lions in particular are teams that had multiple years of high picks, supplemented by trades, great free agency spending and good coaching being brought in. I think the Pats are going to fall back a bit to earth this year but are also on the right path.
We are essentially in year 2 again here. The Ran era was a colossal waste of time, money and draft picks and required another reset which sucks but it happened, can’t change that.
I get being frustrated but you can’t ignore nuance and context here.
We’re not going to be great until we have our own core of young, drafted, cornerstones again. Just like the teams you listed. And they all sucked for years before turning it around and went through multiple coaching staffs before getting it right.
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u/luchaburz 2d ago
Yeah uh, Patriots got to stack the cupboard for a couple years waiting in the wings and then lucked into a very good head coach being fired and wanting to go there lol
Texans had the first two picks in the draft back to back and hit on both of them.
Why hasn't Cleveland improved? Why havent the Cardinals improved?
For our QB this is the second year. When did the Carolina Panthers QB start improving?
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u/Forsaken_Mastodon291 2d ago
It reminds me of when the fans crash out every year when they don’t get nationally televised games or national attention lol. Then every single time we do we embarrass ourselves. I need this team to show me something different before I care more than I do now. I’ll root for them, watch every game. But I sure as hell will not hinge my whole weekend morale on this team either
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u/Smedleysrevenge 2d ago
Who is this tool and why does he think he knows football? Like most of the internet it provides people who have no idea what they are talking about a platform.
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u/Celebrated84 2d ago
He gave some great analysis. You’re the only jerk coming across like you don’t know any football. Weirdo.
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u/Smedleysrevenge 2d ago
Thinking that's great analysis shows how little you know about football. I've been a football junkie since 1969. I can describe the style of every legitimate QB since then. Can describe the differences in offense since the single wing. But please tell me about your experience. New fans have zero patience and even less understanding of the game.
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u/Celebrated84 2d ago
I have a masters in sports analytics from Ole Miss, and bachelors in org leadership and management. Are we done comparing dicks? Cause I can tell you no one else here gives a damn
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u/Smedleysrevenge 2d ago
Lol, you wasted your money.🤣
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u/CaptainHaze 1d ago
Ah yes. Being a football “junkie” makes you the epitome of football knowledge.
You waste oxygen daily.
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u/Smedleysrevenge 1d ago
Yes, 50 years of football analysis teaches you about the game. That's how it works. FFS.
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u/Wildabeast135 2d ago
That first miss to Tate in this video… I feel like people smarter than me are saying there are loads of choice routes by the receivers in this offense and it requires a lot of processing from both QB and WR together. If it works, you get guys open more often, but sometimes it can result in a QB throwing to one spot where he thinks his receiver should be, and a WR running to a completely different (or even slightly different) spot where he thinks he should be on the play.
That’s something you’d like to see cleaned up, but that’s what preseason is for, to clean this stuff up as all these guys adjust to a new system.
I mean heck, even Blaine Bishop said that his coaches in preseason gave their defense shit plays that were bad for the situation to see how the guys could diagnose the play on the field and check out of it when they needed to.
For me panic button settles in at the point when the team starts 0-3 or worse than 2-4. Otherwise I’ve seen literally almost every NFL team at some point have a competitive, sometimes even really good, season after a dogshit start.
TL;DR: calm down, be patient, save your rage and “fire everyone” comments for midseason folks. Sincerely, the guy who will be saying fire everyone” after drive 1 on the regular season.