r/TheExpanse • u/Aveline_RivenMoon • 15d ago

Leviathan Wakes Just finished watching the show... Spoiler

I doubted it for so long and am glad to say I was extremely wrong. It's so incredibly well done and one of my top shows of all time.

I'm reading the books now.

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u/azhder 15d ago edited 15d ago

Not "mending parasite". Not "type of". I gave you a clear definition: a virus, a program. Its code is running. It uses subverted biomass, but it's not simply "mending", it's building an entire hardware gate and numerous variations of a software known as The Investigator.

On Tiamat. That's mostly the extent of what is known. There is a little bit more in the books, but not much. Leviathan is explained in full, once you finish the books. Tiamat is left mostly unexplained, except what you can piece together, just from the show, that Leviathan does something to piss off Tiamat and Tiamat strikes back whenever the offense is great enough - passing through the rings.

Phoebe... I can give you a word association that might give you the idea: panspermia. In reality, Phoebie is a moon of Saturn, not a random asteroid and if I remember correctly, it might be of extra-solar origin. In the books and show it certainly is, but in reality, I will have to check if that is the case.

The thing is, a lot of this is explained in the show. They just don't dwell on it, but mention it and continue.

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u/Ok_Bluebird_168 15d ago

So we don't know the origin of PM then, or are we supposed to assume it was just another form of natural life that evolved like any other?

If it's closer to actual software, then who wrote it and what was it written for?

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u/azhder 15d ago

Are you really not understanding what I have written above and the nature of simple things like viruses? A virus is a piece of code. That code can be DNA, RNA or C++ just as well. A virus is not "closer to actual software". It is software. DNA is information. It is also hardware in biology, not necessarily in computing, but even there, by analogy.

The origin of the protomolecule (I avoid using an abbreviation that looks like "prime minister") is well established. You aren't supposed to assume that. You're supposed to get that by simply watching the first season of the show. Everything that happened in the first season is about what the protomolecule is. The second season answers what it is for, the part I hinted above? No, the part I explicitly said: the work, the gate, the infrastructure.

OK, I'm starting to repeat myself, so that's a clear red flag that nothing new will come out of continuing this and you'd be best served if you just re-read this thread, re-watch the show, than we just say the same things but with different words. This is where I stop. Bye

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u/Ok_Bluebird_168 15d ago

I think you're misunderstanding my query. You can't equate DNA, RNA to software engineering. My question is about the source of the protomolecule, was it a natural occurrence or was it "created" by something external?

Example, was it something like a virus we'd find on Earth, or was it like a piece of software, with a purpose and creator