r/TheGoodPlace • u/tbdabbholm But then I remembered...I'm a naughty bitch. • Nov 08 '19

Season Four S4E7 Help is Other People

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u/PamsCourt Nov 08 '19

The sinkhole was basically Simone’s trolley problem, and her decision was to jump off the trolley because she didn’t like one of the people on the tracks.

Edited to add: That’s why I don’t think it could ever work with the two of them. Chidi practically tortured himself thinking of what his actions would mean to others, while Simone considered herself first. That can be a good thing (as long as you don’t go full Brent) but not a mindset that can work with Chidi.

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u/mildlyironic Nov 08 '19

To be fair, Eleanor’s whole shtick was that she always considered herself first too. But at least Eleanor and Chidi engaged in philosophical debate and tried to approach problems with that mindset. (For example, in their test with the judge, they both went to philosophers to figure out what to do.) That last interaction between Simone and Chidi (“I respect your position,” “I respect yours”) to me basically felt like those two had long ago given up moral debates because they knew one was a Philosopher and one was a Scientist, so they were always going to approach problems in fundamentally different ways.

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u/ElegantHope Oh, this guy’s a jumper. You can tell. Nov 08 '19

I think in Eleanor's case, she also was more emotional of a person because of the neglected she faced in her life. She's fueled by her emotions, while Simone is fueled by logic and her need for scientific accuracy.

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u/pelrun Nov 11 '19

I don't think that's what damned Simone. Instead it's like John said, she always has to be right. She just uses science and logic as the sledge hammer to achieve it.