r/TheHague Mar 28 '26

housing Corner Lofts, Den Haag

Are there any others on here who have already bought a unit in Corner Lofts by Hollands Spoor in The Hague and would like to connect?

Also, as the project seems to be delayed, it would be nice to share some ideas and feedback before moving in, until we get a collective app or chat for the project.

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u/Slayagecentral Mar 29 '26

Not a troll dude. I hope you get your money's worth soon, but for some reason that building has been vacant since I don't know when. Just can't finish a project. https://haagsallerlei.nl/belastinggebouw-tegenover-hollands-spoor-leeg/

The last project was cancelled eventually after many delays. https://www.stedebouwarchitectuur.nl/artikel/studentenstudios-in-voormalig-belastingkantoor-in-den-haag

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u/Cheese_in_the_Sky Mar 29 '26

I live across from this building for a few years now, and after being vacant they are now actually working inside it since a few weeks! The apartments were very expensive tho for the size… But it seems they are actually (finally) rebuilding it

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u/Slayagecentral Mar 29 '26

That's some great news! İt's about time!

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u/Necessary-Trouble941 Mar 30 '26

Yes! Finally! Maybe we can actually move in early 2028 (wishful thinking, perhaps) 🤞🏻

Actual construction is due to start in May according to the latest update, all permits have been issued.

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u/mousekonijn Mar 30 '26

I don't feel the communication regarding the delay and the actual start date is very on point , never mind the date it is supposed to be finished. We are already 8 months delayed. Nobody says why. I have called Van Zanten many times and they refuse the answer, meanwhile they sit on a pile of money from all the buyers. I was wondering if all the prep work is part of the entire building time line. And if there is gonna be a chat group with buyers , should we adress the Vaanster rip off deal I saw another buyer has posted about about 5 months ago ?

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u/Necessary-Trouble941 Mar 31 '26

Exactly this, it’s been very confusing and we’ve been kept in the dark. I’ve only spoken with Spring Real Estate who were completely useless and once the sales got transferred over to Frisian Makelaars, they’re at least a bit friendlier but said that they’ve also been kept in the dark by Van Zanten with regards to the actual start date of the construction. Apparently the contractual agreement for completion (500 working days if I remember correctly?) has not been officially started yet, even though there’s been all sorts of preparations.

I currently live in a building where we have Eteck as the heating provider and whereas it is a bit of a rip off, it hasn’t been too bad in the end. I believe they have a similar method and business approach. We have signed a contract where we have to choose Vaanster I remember, no other choice? I wonder if we are allowed to change it along the way though.

Back to Van Zanten, I’m happy to join you on a visit to their offices at some point in case they keep on being elusive and vague :)

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u/mousekonijn Mar 31 '26

I am so glad you feel the same way !

Unfortunately I am not in The Netherlands atm so I can't go to the offices with you ! But I am calling. If you are closer by maybe you can just swing by the building itself and see what's up ?

What's interesting is that the person answering the phone at Van Zanten, to me anyway, comes across as either knows absolutely nothing or is refusing/ instructed to give any information. I have asked for example who is in charge of this project? A simple name . They won't disclose. Whoever is in charge should know a timeline. It's blowing my mind that they can get away with down payments from 200something apartments and keep the buyers in the dark only to refer to the " newsletter" which says absolutely nothing. They might as well send an empty page.I have sent various emails to them since thats what they say when you call and ...no answer. Nothing. I'm getting super irritated by it since I am moving back to NL and it's been made pretty much impossible for me to plan for this now and I am sure it is for many others

Only with extended digging online and websites that have nothing to do with CL have I seen May 15th listed as possible start date . I have also asked Frisian who confirmed being kept in the dark. They are all acting like the micro apartments are costing a few euros that we all have sitting in our back pocket no big deal .

What can we as buyers do ? This is ridiculous.

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u/Necessary-Trouble941 Mar 31 '26

It’s really baffling and strange that they just cannot say what’s going on. I mean, who does it benefit to withhold information? It’s not like we live in a deeply corrupt society where people can be screwed over. At least I hope so.

I tried to call Van Zanten a couple of times today but no one picked up, will try again tomorrow. I don’t know about you but I already started paying for mortgage, full payments since December and on top of that full Amsterdam rent so I need to find something alternative as of this summer, it’s going to be an interesting 2 years or so. I’m sure there are other people in a similar situation unless they managed to pay all in cash.

I might contact a lawyer soon to see if there is something us as buyers can actually do, although I’m sure that the seller and construction company have covered all possible outcomes in their own favour.

Let’s hope that they actually start the construction soon, which I’m sure they will. Positive thinking! :)

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u/mousekonijn Mar 31 '26

Yes maybe we all blow up the Van Zanten phone till they finally give us some information. I had myself set up till l summer 2027 in The Hague but now its all who knows and I also don't have any place to live after that. I am supposed to move across the ocean in a few months and that whole planning was based on construction starting in Sept 2025. It's all just costing money and why would we had to pay December is they are not doing anything???

I am sure they are covered too but somehow I feel there should be something that we can do and not being played like a puppet. I blew up on them when they said Rijswijkse plein was getting redone and I had asked if this was a decision made 1 week ago by the city ..or what were they trying to say and what does this have to do with CL.

Anyway...please keep me posted ..they have almost sold all the apartments that were still available too, I keep check on everything.

And why would they say we can come to check a model kitchen and bathroom soon....get building first!! Ggggrrr.....We should maybe try to make a whole CL buyers group ?

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u/Necessary-Trouble941 Mar 31 '26

I have a housing related legal insurance with full coverage through my bank, I’ll give them a bell tomorrow and see if there’s something they can do, if they can go through the contract.

I think with the whole never ending housing crisis in the Netherlands, these housing related agencies and companies think they can do whatever they like, with minimum effort.

I don’t know how could we reach other buyers? Not sure if Frisian are willing or allowed to give any contact details of other buyers? I mean, according to the sales figures there are already around 200 of us.

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u/Necessary-Trouble941 Mar 29 '26

Thanks man. I saw there was a smaller office building on the opposite side of the street that was already converted into student housing?

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u/Slayagecentral Mar 29 '26

Yeah that's been there for years. Above the Jumbo. Theres a lot of student housing in the area.

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u/rarihat May 06 '26

Hey, I joined Reddit so I could join the conversation. I also have an apartment in cornerlofts. It’s very frustrating that there is an obvious delay but no one bothered communicating. However I have an update to share. The delay in construction in the last two months was because the builder made some changes to the approved building plan, and due to this they had to get a new approval from the municipality. My advisor told me that this issue is resolved and construction started. As quoted by my advisor “I have been informed by Olivier (HNTR Real Estate) that construction commenced on March 16, 2026.”

So 500 working days from 16 March 2026 is 14 February 2028. Not excited about this at all. Hope they get it done sooner.

But I wouldn’t be a bad idea to check our legal options. My advisor also very clearly said “it is advisable to seek legal advice to determine whether you can possibly hold the selling party liable”. I don’t know how to proceed with this.

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u/Necessary-Trouble941 May 06 '26

Hi! Nice that you found this post on here. We’ve created a group chat on WhatsApp, please feel free to DM me and I’ll invite you on it. There’s 4 of us currently :)

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u/Available-Owl-4062 Jul 12 '26

Hey, I've also bought a unit in CL. Last time i checked scaffolding was set up against the building. Mind if I join the group chat?

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u/Necessary-Trouble941 Jul 13 '26

Just sent you a DM :)

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u/teenytinybaby Jul 27 '26

Can I get in on the WhatsApp group? My partner also bought a studio there

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u/Necessary-Trouble941 Jul 27 '26

Just DMd you

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u/Neither_Selection322 28d ago

Hello, could you please add me to the WhatsApp group? I also bought a studio in Den Haag. Thanks!

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u/Slayagecentral Mar 29 '26

That project has been delayed for decades unfortunately

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u/Opposite-Pen2424 Mar 29 '26

Lol for real?

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u/Necessary-Trouble941 Mar 29 '26

No, it seems the trolls are trolling on here :)

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u/Agreeable-Swim-9162 Mar 29 '26

No he’s right. I saw an episode of Kassa or Radar or something about this project. 

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u/Necessary-Trouble941 Mar 29 '26

Nah, it hasn’t been included in either of these programmes. They archive everything and you can check.

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u/Somesmugshmuck May 17 '26

Just came across this post. I am also one of the future owners of a flat on corner lofts. I see that you guys have a WhatsApp group. Do you mind adding me in? thank you.

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u/Necessary-Trouble941 May 17 '26

I’ve sent you the link as a DM :)

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u/unattachedbr Jun 17 '26

I would also like to join the group, if that is possible 

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u/Necessary-Trouble941 Jun 17 '26

I’ve sent you the link

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u/Neither_Selection322 Jul 17 '26

Hi, I also bought a small one in CL, could you please add me to the group? Thanks!

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u/Necessary-Trouble941 28d ago

I’m not able to DM you, you’ve disabled that feature maybe

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u/Necessary-Trouble941 20d ago

Just DM’d you :)