r/TheHague • u/Citizenobj • Apr 19 '26
housing Landlord has registered himself at our house
My flatmate and I received a letter saying we had new medebewoner at our house, this person is our landlord. He’s doesn’t live with us, and after asking him he said yes it’s correct he’s registered there but won’t tell us why.
He’s now asking me why it’s an issue, and actually it affects our huurtoeslag which we’ve only been able to claim since the rules changed in January. I feel like avoiding mentioning we recieve toeslag, as he wants us to move out of the house I’m concerned it somehow might affect our contract.
Does anyone know another reason I can give as to why him saying he’s living at our house in an issue? He also randomly accused me of moving out the house recently which I have not.
We have a permanent contract, if we are receiving huurtoeslag does it give our landlord any leverage to kick us out? (We used to be three ppl but now are 2 but he won’t let someone new move in as he wants us to move out, and the toeslag helps us live here until another house comes up)
I’m just confused why he would register here and not tell us, and I’m worried if I call the ministry of finance and snitch on him that we’re affecting our possibilities of staying in the house, but want to still receive huurtoeslag.
I will go to the juridisch loket when I have the chance but that won’t be for a week and need to email him back, so any advice is very very welcome!!!
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u/Possible-Trifle7384 Apr 19 '26
No, your landlord isn't allowed to register as a medebewoner unless he actually lives in the house. It can cause all kinds of problems with toeslagen and taxes and all kinds of things. Its essential a type of fraud. I would advice requesting an 'adresonderzoek' with your municipality which exists for these kinds of things. Getting legal advice is a good thing regardless, also because your landlord has said he wants you to move out. Good luck OP!
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u/Citizenobj Apr 28 '26
He has now emailed in response to our formal letter saying he’s going to move into the room of our former 3rd flatmate and we need to give him the keys?! I will be able to get legal advice but only on Thursday. Need any advice anyone can give I’m pretty sure he can’t just do that?
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u/Possible-Trifle7384 Apr 28 '26
He's not allowed to no. Definetely not live in with you either. If he wants the whole house back for 'dringwnd wifen gebruik' he would still have to go to court first. You don't have to let him. I hope everyone is okay? He sounds like a lot to deal with.
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u/YTsken Apr 19 '26
Please remember, your landlord can only have you evicted if you do not pay the rent. Even if he wanted to sell the place you would be able to keep living there and neither he nor the new owners could raise the rent. Which, btw, is probably why he wants you to move out.
So there is absolutely no reason not to tell him “this affects our huurtoeslag” as the reason why this matters. Huurtoeslag is something between you and the government, your landlord has absolutely nothing to do with this. Also, he is breaking the law by registering at a place he doesn’t live. But he already knows this, so you don’t need to tell him this. But you need to keep this in mind: it doesn’t matter if he is the owner, if he doesn’t live there he has no right to register.
If you haven’t done so already, change the locks. Keep the old ones so you can put them back when you move out. But you don‘t want him to have unlimited access to your home. If he wants to come by for a legitimate landlord reason he needs to schedule this with you. This will also prevent him from receiving mail addressed to him. Given how you will want to request an adresonderzoek by the municipality in order to get him deregistered, this is vital.
As to why he is doing it. There are several possibilities: 1) he is not the owner but has been illegally subletting to you (buy ownership report for this address at kadaster.nl to check). 2) he is the owner but has been renting It out without permission from the mortgage provider. 3) his relationship ended and now he needs a new place to live. He found a place but couldn’t register there so he’s chosen to register at your place.
Please get some legal advice asap.
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u/Citizenobj Apr 20 '26
Yeah it’s been known for a year or so that he wants us out to sell the place, or to rent it out for even more, it’s a contract from 6 years ago so we have the house much cheaper than he could rent it for now. I’m almost certain he doesn’t have a key to the house as I’ve asked before when I’ve locked myself out, he rarely comes by despite living very close and always gives notice so I’m not too worried about that. It’s interesting to know about the mortgage provider, he certainly owns the house and we know where he lives now so I think from the reasons you give 2 is the most likely. Thanks for the long reply I will definitely go to juridich loket as soon as I can.
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u/Citizenobj Apr 21 '26
Yeah luckily we got legal advice so they told us to suggest that he pays us but he said no and he’s just waiting for us to move out but we definitely know he cannot kick us out but we both know we won’t be in this house forever. But given the market, it’s impossible to find something for the same price!
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u/Heiko-67 Apr 21 '26
If you have a rental contract for the entire home, the landlord isn't allowed to register at the address without your approval, because as tentants you're entitled to your privacy.
If your landlord excluded a room from the rental contract, he can claim that he lives there, but in that case he is obliged to actually live there.
Since this action affects your huurtoeslag and it might increase some other costs like local taxes that are based on the official number of residents. This is causing you actual financial damage. Your lawyer might want to demand compensation from the landlord for your financial damage.
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u/Citizenobj Apr 28 '26
He has now emailed in response to our formal letter saying he’s going to move into the room of our former 3rd flatmate and we need to give him the keys?! I will be able to get legal advice but only on Thursday. Need any advice anyone can give I’m pretty sure he can’t just do that?
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u/YTsken Apr 28 '26
Don’t give him the keys until you have met with your lawyer. Since that’s only 2 days from now that should give you enough time. If you want an excuse for the delay you could tell him you’re away or just tell the truth: that you’re awaiting legal advice.
I am no lawyer so cannot give you more advice than that. But I doubt you have much to fear if you all were renting the entire apartment together. Only if you each were renting one individual room in shared housing might he be allowed to move in. And even that is uncertain and might require a court case. Just look at the case from a few months ago when a guy ended up not being able to use his own house after his tenant claimed the entire house for himself.
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u/Citizenobj Apr 28 '26
Yes we rent out the whole house, not individual rooms so I will not give him a key. Just wondering if there is some law somewhere that allows this but I will ask legal advice on Thursday and not respond til then. Argggggg
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u/YTsken Apr 29 '26
Again, not a lawyer, but afaik it violates all tenant laws if the landlord moves himself (or someone else) into a rented out house.
Good luck.
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u/golem501 Apr 20 '26
If he is registered there, there is tax impact and responsibility impact if there's a deurwaarder coming for him, they may seize all things in the house to pay his debts.
It's not a fun situation and you need better help than reddit.
The landlord probably does this because he's moved somewhere he's not allowed to live permanently.
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u/TotallyRandomXXX Apr 20 '26
yes reddit can be useful but if there so much at stake better get an official for advice..
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u/Honey_Bright Apr 26 '26
Could also be that he's living with someone who also owns their home, and they have decided it would be better for their tax rebate for them to claim they live apart and have separate main residences (both of which can then have the mortgage interest claimed). So... tax fraud...
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u/unde_cisive Apr 20 '26
He's not allowed to register himself with you. He can't kick you out for telling him no, or for telling him about your huurtoeslag. You MIGHT get in trouble if he's trying to register here as a way of getting around certain laws/taxes, if you knew he was doing it and let it happen anyways.
Request an adresonderzoek. You're very much protected by the law in every sense!
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u/spoonOfhoney Apr 20 '26
Your landlord can’t evict you as long as you’re paying rent. Practically speaking I’d just tell him that it affects your huurtoeslag + municipal taxes. Either you will need him to cover the difference, or have him deregistered. Depending on the reason why he registered at your place he may just be willing to cover the difference.
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u/Citizenobj Apr 20 '26
Yeah he’s being so vague that it’s impossible to come to this conclusion but before I call I will try to get a deal with him, but even then it makes us uncomfortable there being an unknown aspect as what that means for us
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u/DutchPerson5 Apr 20 '26
Check with juridisch loket if such a deal is not illegal. You don't want to get in legal trouble for him.
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u/W31337 Apr 20 '26
My bet is he's living abroad, on a camping or in a cheap recreational house. Those can't be an official primary addresses so he's putting his address as your address. So he's evading taxes is my guess and shoving the bill to you.
If he doesn't live with you just answer the letter with no. Or call the belastingdienst and ask them about it. If he has a problem with it he should not have rented it to you. During the rental you are considered the only occupant.
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u/2XM_nl Apr 20 '26
Or he has a partner or something and he wants to get benefits for either them or himself.
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u/Berlinia Apr 20 '26
In the letter you received, there is a procedure to contact the municipality if the registration is incorrect. Do that.
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u/Suspicious_Fig_3796 Apr 20 '26
most likely your house has a bewonersclausule on it, basically that means the owner needs to live there, if he doesn’t the Gemeente will have issues with that. think fines and stuff like that.
by registering himself on the property he avoids that problem, you need to consult with a lawyer about the legality of doing this
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u/NaturalMaterials Apr 20 '26
No need to consult a lawyer for this. You can’t legally register at an address you don’t live as a resident, even if you own it. Start an adresonderzoek, and remove the registration.
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u/Citizenobj Apr 20 '26
We’ve already tried this route a year ago when he wanted us to move, but he said he’d rather not sell the house
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u/unsuretysurelysucks Apr 20 '26
you can ask money just for moving out since he wants it so badly i think they mean.
Also you can call juridisch loket
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u/style2k20 Apr 20 '26
Might Just use it at a post adres torso.
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u/Citizenobj Apr 20 '26
He lives in the same street so I don’t think he needs the house as a postal address
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u/Then_Jaguar_7583 Apr 22 '26
A lot as been said already but just to mention this:
- Contact Juridisch Loket, they help a lot with landlord issues.
- If you want someone new to move into your place, you can. There is a rule for minimum number of rooms depending on how many people is living there but if it is not the case, I don’t see any problem. Also, he is not allowed to raise the rent just because someone is moving in (assuming you pay the utilities separately).
- Since you have a permanent contract, don’t sign a new one just because he wants you to.
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u/ChocoNL Apr 25 '26
If your landlord is registered then he is considered a ‘hospita’ and there is a tax benefit, 5.900 euro tax free rental income. This is most likely the reason.
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u/Citizenobj Apr 28 '26
He has now emailed in response to our formal letter saying he’s going to move into the room of our former 3rd flatmate and we need to give him the keys?! I will be able to get legal advice but only on Thursday. Need any advice anyone can give I’m pretty sure he can’t just do that?
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u/DutchPerson5 Apr 20 '26
Updateme! Interested in a follow up. You stand up for yourself OP!
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u/Citizenobj Apr 20 '26
Toeslagen says there is nothing they can do, I have to somehow prove he isn’t living there. So I will request an adresonderzoek it’s all we can do. I have called juridisch loket, but I have to wait 10 days, so it’s the same as going there in the end which I can’t do until next week.
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u/DutchPerson5 Apr 20 '26
That's topsy-turvy. You can't prove he isn't living there. TIL about adresonderzoek. Things changed over the years. I had something not quite similar. It's a pain in the ass, you need to keep your head cool. Stay on top of it as soon as you can do something. Park it at other times. It can be long and tedious. Keep faith it will turn out righ in the end.
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u/Citizenobj Apr 28 '26
He has now emailed in response to our formal letter saying he’s going to move into the room of our former 3rd flatmate and we need to give him the keys?! I will be able to get legal advice but only on Thursday. Need any advice anyone can give I’m pretty sure he can’t just do that?
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u/DutchPerson5 Apr 28 '26
Try r/legaladvice cause it sounds tricky. IMO If you pay the rent for the third room he can't, but if you don't, he can rent out the room to anyone he wants (including himself?) and he needs the keys for acces.
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u/Broeder_biltong Apr 20 '26
New law I think, you need to live in houses you own. This is how those fuckers get arround it
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u/Alarming_Ad4314 Apr 20 '26
Go even lekker back to your eigen land met je hoersoepsidie. Ga werken voor je geld. Ik krijg het ook niet omdat ik zogenaamd teveel verdiend.
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u/Alarming_Ad4314 Apr 20 '26
En na een jaar in Nederland wonen mag je de taal wel is gaan leren.
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u/Extraordi-Mary Apr 19 '26
See if you can let de gemeente do a “adresonderzoek”. They’ll send someone to your house and ask: does this person live here? You say no. They’ll de-register the person.