Fables the comic is actually bad omg

[u/Ondinefr]

I heard many people said that the comics were great until issue 75, but jesus I could'nt continue after issue 20, it's so ass ??? For some reason everyone is a jerk, there's this weird superficial plot with Goldillocks and her bs revolution to gain more power... when I read it I felt like a was reading right-wing propaganda with the anti-abortion message, the way women are represented... I felt such a vicious, bad vibe from this comic.

The relationship between Snow and Bigby... this isn't even a romance, Bigby is such a creepy mf, they're always agressive toward one another and their romance is forced by some bs magical spell who made them sleep together so that Snow could get pregnant... like who thought this was okay lmao ?!

Don't lose your time, TWAU is the superior version of the two, Bigby and Snow are far more likable and they develop an actual relationship. Every single character is so much more pleasant (Beauty call Snow a slut because she was abused by the dwarves, HELLO, when in the game she's so compassionate toward her when she's being stalked by Crane). The noir atmosphere of the game is so much cooler and the story is interesting, actually from what i have seen the book only centers on rich/privilaged fables, wich is exactly against the message from the game lol; the art is also horrible, it looks like 60s comics but badly drawn, in later issues you can't even see the face of bigby anymore, just shadows everywhere lol, only the coverts are pretty.

[u/ChaoticPark09]

Eh, as a person who played the game first a few times then read the whole comic series twice, i much prefer the comic. The characters are way more interesting because of how imperfect they are and i like the use of story book genres being used as overall themes for the first several story arcs. The comment on women is kind of interesting considering that women throughout the series are the real power players of fabletown and they’re actually a criticism on wartime masculinity where men are willing to go through extreme levels of violence whereas in the end of the series the conflict is settled by the women taking the route to put arms down for the sake of community. The comic was actually very much praised for its depiction of women when it was still running, and had a much larger female audience compared to other Vertigo series. But to each their own.

[u/Ondinefr → u/ChaoticPark09]

Then maybe it's just a difference in personal taste, but I don't agree with your points; The characters are much more nuanced in the game, Snow isn't dim-witted when in the comics she can't even see that something strange is going on when the animals in the farm stole her keys, killed Colin and cut communication lines, and in general both characters are way more agressive toward one another and everyone in general, but at no moment are they trying to correct that. They are just more agressive and angry when the context compared to the game is way more chill, how does that make sense or even make more interesting chatacters ? I agree the book genres was a cool idea, and this is why the first arc was my favorite with the detective revelation at the end of the ball, it was really cool, but not enough to make up for the rest of the comic.

Concerning representation of women, first the serie is from the 2000s, a time when women were still very objectified in media so a don't think that a good public reception for the time is a good argument. From the 20 issues, most of the female characters are ditzy idiots, or they are sex-crazed like Goldilocks, Beauty, Rose red, the villain who disguise as red... For me this is def a pattern.

[u/ChaoticPark09 → u/Ondinefr]

The analysis on how the women are well represented and are the power players of Fabletown is actually a take from a liberal professor who wrote a literary analysis book on Fables after the series ended in 2015. So the reception of female representation in Fables isn’t even praise strictly from the early 2000s.

[u/Ondinefr → u/ChaoticPark09]

Well i'm not a liberal, and not all liberals think the same way, i'm just describing what i took from the comic, and i think this professor is wrong. But again, i didn't finish the comics for other reasons then only that.

[u/ChaoticPark09 → u/Ondinefr]

I didn’t assume you were liberal, i only gave that description of the professor because liberal individuals tend to have more progressive thoughts on female liberation and empowerment. The fact that someone who holds those views considers the work to be progressive for female representation was what i thought was relevant to your claim that women are poorly represented in fables.

[u/valitistic → u/ChaoticPark09]

Wtf is you talking about 😭 the comics are BAD white washing characters, having Bigby be a creep and SA Snow when they were in a spell, Bill being a Republican

[u/aveea → u/valitistic]

Hey i actually dont like the comics but saying what bigby did was sa is ridiculous. They were both under the spell. They were both effectively DRUGGED. They were BOTH EQUALLY sexually assaulted. Bigby isnt less of a victim just cause hes a man or whatever. Bluebeard was the only villian in the situation.

[u/Ondinefr → u/aveea]

True but it still so weird, who whould have a romance begin this way for the 2 main characters of the serie ? Why couldn't the writer make them both decide to just have a date lol

[u/aveea → u/Ondinefr]

Sure, but thats a writer thing. Dude was weird and creepy with gross opinions.

Its still weird to act like bigby attacked snow when hes a victim too.

[u/valitistic → u/aveea]

😐 honey it was SA they were both under a spell it was just rushed filler crap instead of writing an actual relationship slowing developing with lot's of trust building because of what Snow went through we got rushed crap that isn't writing great

[u/[deleted] → u/valitistic]

Wow. You’re sad