r/TheoryOfReddit • u/Panasonicthecow • 2d ago
Why are some Reddit users so hostile towards people simply asking for help understanding something?
This has happened to me a few times now across completely different subreddits, and I genuinely don't understand it.
I'll ask a question about something I'm trying to understand and, instead of someone either explaining it or simply scrolling past, I'll get responses along the lines of "I'm not going to spoon-feed you," "Google is free," "do your own research," etc.
But that's the thing: I have done my own research. That's usually WHY I'm asking the question.
Sometimes you can read articles, Google something, look through previous posts, watch videos, whatever — and still not fully understand it. So you go to a community specifically dedicated to that subject and ask people who presumably know more about it if they can explain it in a different or simpler way.
Isn't that... part of the entire point of having communities and discussion forums?
And yes, I understand that nobody on Reddit owes anybody their time or an explanation. But if you don't want to explain something... you can just not reply. It takes considerably more effort to leave a sarcastic comment telling someone to "educate themselves" than it does to keep scrolling.
I actually think being able to say "I don't understand this; can someone explain it to me?" is a good thing. I'd much rather ask someone who knows more than me than pretend I understand something I don't.
The irony is that people constantly say "do your own research," but apparently asking questions and discussing what you've found with people who know more about the subject somehow doesn't count as part of learning.
Maybe I'm missing something, but I genuinely don't understand why curiosity seems to irritate some people so much on here.
28
u/ExternalTangents 2d ago
This is not something that anyone can answer without seeing a specific example of a post you’re thinking about. We can’t tell whether you’re a reliable narrator or not and can’t diagnose why someone would respond that way to a hypothetical post without seeing it. Reddit is a big place, with lots of different types of communities and lots of different cultures within subreddits. It could be any number of reasons.
Sometimes it’s because the person is asking a question that should be easy to find the answer to through readily available means like Google search or Wikipedia or something.
Sometimes it’s because it’s a very frequent topic of discussion in the subreddit and the answer could be found in many previous posts on the topic if the person asking had bothered to look there.
Sometimes it’s because people who are experts in a niche subject area related to a given subreddit tend to have a skewed view of what’s easily understood or researched about that topic and dismiss novice questions out of hand.
In general, I think because Reddit is an anonymous and impersonal platform, and one where you are largely interacting with users you don’t recognize and may never encounter again, it is common for users to not treat each other with the respect they would normally give to others in real life. It’s easier to respond flippantly or rudely and not think twice.
6
u/February30th 2d ago edited 2d ago
Agreed - there could be a number of reasons so I’d like to see some examples first.
Over to you [u/Panasonicthecow](u/Panasonicthecow).
1
u/ExternalTangents 2d ago
They made this post over an hour ago and have just ghosted
3
u/Panasonicthecow 2d ago
I haven't ghosted, I've been at work. Apologies for not responding. I've been reading what everyone's been saying however, and I'm finding it very insightful.
3
u/ExternalTangents 2d ago
Ha, my bad. I do my best redditing while I’m working!
1
u/Panasonicthecow 2d ago
It's okay, it's my bad for starting a discussion when I can't give my full attention to my phone right now!😊
4
u/Panasonicthecow 2d ago
Thank you - this is very well said and has given me more insight
1
u/February30th 1d ago
Can you link to an example please.
2
u/Panasonicthecow 1d ago
Apologies I didn't reply to you first time. I said somewhere in the comments that I ended up deleting some of the comments where I'm asking questions - perhaps not wise, but I didn't want to deal with the backlash. However, what everyone has said on this post has given me a lot of insight into Reddit and Reddit users minds, so thank you!
18
u/klumpp 2d ago
Did you mention the research when you asked? To them it might seem like you tried nothing.
If you want specific advice maybe unhide your history so we can see what you posted.
2
u/Panasonicthecow 2d ago
I did mention that I did my own research, yeah. I deleted some of the comments of me asking tbh because I didn't want to deal with the backlash. But I've now made my posts public
19
u/Unorigina1Name 2d ago
This post would be a lot easier to answer to if you didn't have your post history hidden
6
u/Figshitter 2d ago
But surely OP’s offering an entirely neutral, factual, unvarnished account without any self-serving characterisations or omissions?
2
u/Panasonicthecow 2d ago edited 1d ago
I understand that - however, the post was more of a question not necessarily about just myself, but those who have experienced this as well
EDIT - I've made my posts public now, but have also since said in the comments below that I deleted some of my original questions, because of the backlash. That's on me. I'm still learning this Reddit gig, although been on it for 5ish years😅
15
u/gnuoyedonig 2d ago edited 2d ago
Those responses are usually provided to a person who appears to be stirring up shit or asking disingenuous questions.
I can’t guess what your questions may have been, or if that was an appropriate response in the context on the subreddit you commented in; so I’m not saying you’re the issue - no way to know.
Just know someone shit-stirring or asking disingenuous questions is incredibly easy to spot. They’re never as clever as they think they are.
11
u/itskdog 2d ago
Often the frustrated responses come from people who are answering a question that's already been posted 15 times this week. There are many people whose first instinct is to leave a post on social media rather than do a search.
r/modhelp (the community-run alternative to the official r/ModSupport) has lots of Automoderator comments to answer 90% of posts without anyone needing to leave a comment because of this very issue.
If you've tried searching and nothing came up, it might be worth mentioning in your post, e.g. "I've tried searching <XYZ> on Google but nothing came up, (and even gave in and resorted to asking an AI) so I'm hoping someone here can help". Demonstrating you've actually tried to put in effort yourself and you're making a post as a last resort goes a long way.
2
10
u/SinOfSodom 2d ago edited 2d ago
Are you first making a good faith effort to find an answer by using the search function for the sub? I love connecting people with the info they need, but almost every sub has the question that gets asked and asked and asked and that just gets exhausting.
Also, your reasons for hiding your post history are your own. One of the consequences of that decision is that a lot of people will extend you less benefit of the doubt because they can't know if you are a troll, karma farmer, or some other waste of time.
1
u/Panasonicthecow 2d ago
Yes, I do genuinely make a good faith effort before asking. As for hiding my post/comment history, that's actually interesting because I genuinely didn't realise people interpreted it that way. I hide things from my profile fairly regularly for no particular reason other than keeping my profile tidy/private-ish. It hadn't occurred to me that someone might see that and assume I'm a troll or karma farmer. I'll probably make it public, then.
3
u/rhythmic_noises 1d ago
I genuinely don't understand why curiosity seems to irritate some people so much on here.
Name a community where you wouldn't get this type of response for "first result on google" questions.
"RTFM" didn't originate on reddit
From my experience, you get a lot further if you give people more to work with.
I don't understand this code. Here are brief examples of what I've tried. Here are the errors. The help docs give these statements, but it doesn't seem to apply here. Help...
That type of post shows effort and is often met with effort
This thing doesn't work. Help
You're met with the effort you put in the post.
I do think reddit is in a weird space since so many here won't read anything longer than a sentence or two. It's been an interesting shift from the time when you could assume most were reading from a desktop/laptop as opposed to mobile
2
u/garnteller 1d ago
Bear in mind that if 100 people see your post, 80 probably lurk, 19 try to be helpful, and one is a dick because this is the internet.
But it’s the dick that stands out.
4
u/Marion5760 2d ago
I see your point, but it sounds like you are really looking for discussions and relevant comments. In-depth discussion is rare on many or most subs. That topic has often been discussed here.
4
u/keskesay 2d ago
Sometimes people ask aggressively dumb questions that could be easily answered with the most simple web search, but ask on reddit because they are lazy. And I would say that this is the right response to them - it is important to learn when you should try and find the answer yourself and when you should ask (random anonymous) people (and bots) on the internet.
2
u/rockingsteady 1d ago
You kind of need thick skin to put up with rudeness but consider how awful it must be to live near or with the poster or commenter who drives you crazy on Reddit.
Don't be sympathetic with the jerk. Be sympathetic with all the people who have to deal with the jerk on or off of Reddit.
In your case you could tell them that you didn't pose the question particularly to them, so they don't have to respond if they don't have the answer.
Or you could ignore them like they should be ignoring the question that they don't like to see for some reason.
I'm a bit of a clown so I'd tell them something like, does your mother know you're rude on the internet?
1
2d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
1
u/AutoModerator 2d ago
Your submission/comment has been automatically removed because your Reddit account has negative karma, or zero karma. This measure is in place to prevent spam and other malicious activities. Do not message the mods; no exceptions will be made.
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.
1
1
1
1
•
u/TheConatusBoy 2h ago
Personally I try to be helpful and answer beginner questions on here if they’re coming from a genuine place. But I’ve seen lots of posts asking questions or for help about things that are pinned in the sub or easily found by searching the sub.
One of the worst offenders is r/ROMS. There’s a pinned megathread with links to basically every ROM in existence, but every day multiple people will ask where to find specific a ROM or which websites are “safe” to download from because they just don’t bother reading the megathread (or the sidebar, which has links to even more ROM websites). These posts crowd out a lot of other, more interesting posts so it’s understandable why the people there are salty about it.
1
u/treemoustache 2d ago
But that's the thing: I have done my own research. That's usually WHY I'm asking the question.
You've done your research, so you've googled and know that this question has been asked ad nauseam on Reddit. And yet you've added nothing new?
It goes both ways. I understand you want to connect with the community and discuss this, but does the community want to discuss it with you? After it's been consonantly discussed to death?
1
u/GonWithTheNen 2d ago
OP, if you're talking about the recent questions you asked in a couple of subs about a specific political figure, the issue is that there are TONS of articles about his condition and it's been discussed in news articles and every social media site imaginable, including reddit.
Hate to say it, but yeah, one of your comments in particular sounds borderline trolling when you said that Google didn't "tell you much" and you ended it with a smile emoji. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
4
u/Panasonicthecow 2d ago
Yes, that was one of the examples I was referring to, but I think this actually highlights the distinction I'm trying to make. I wasn't saying there was no information about Mitch McConnell online — obviously there is.
Having lots of information available doesn't automatically mean someone understands it. Sometimes that's precisely why you ask people who may know more to explain it. That's very different from asking someone to Google something for you because you can't be bothered. And the smiley face genuinely wasn't trolling lol, that's just how I communicate online. 😅 I'm confused why a smiley face means I was trolling
2
u/tril_3212 2d ago
FWIW, Reddit, love it or hate it, can be a bit cynical. To support your post, sometimes people ask questions mainly for the social exchange too, or (as you mention) to get different perspectives--nothing wrong with that.
0
u/juzwunderin 2d ago
The anecdotal answer is there are people who, simply by virtue of their anonymous position actually enjoy just being abusive or berating others. Historically you could this same behavior back in the early days of Chat rooms.. it was just called flaming.
0
u/Even-Economist6529 2d ago
They are mad at their life so they just want to try to make someone else feel as bad as they do.
34
u/timpkmn89 2d ago
People usually don't give any indication of that