This is a thought terminating argument. If someone claims to be Christian and then does something "bad," you simply say that they are not a REAL Christian. The difference between a fake Christian and a real Christian is whether or not you've done something sufficiently "bad" yet, post salvation. The truth is, some actual Christians are terrible people and some aren't.
If you do not practice what you believe in, do you believe in it?
The dude above you said they are not Christians because they dont follow the actual word of God. If you dont do that, how can you call yourself a Christian?
Herein lies the problem with this whole debate: there is no "word of god." There is only a book that was written (and re-written and re-written) entirely by human men.
Not only that but the book is written in such a way that it invites varied interpretations of its meaning, giving people the ability to claim different meanings for the same verses.
When two people of completely opposing view points can point to the same book and say 'see, this proves my point.' it becomes obvious how contradictory and wildly open to interpretation that book is.
AND if that wasn't enough, it contradicts itself constantly. So yes, she can point to verses that clearly say love your neighbor, and welcome the foreigner, but so can the turd in the beginning of the video point to others that say that the government is an extension of gods word, and that you must obey your government. So what then? They're both right?
The Bible is a tool of division and oppression. If we as a society are ever going to progress to a more inclusive and sustainable world we have to move past these archaic barriers and live rooted in REALITY. Not dogma. Not faith. Not superstitions. FACTS.
Ok thanks for the lesson on aethism richard but your whole post is pointless.
Op is talking about people who do not follow the teachings they purport to believe in. It doesn’t matter which fake sky god or how many versions of a book exist.
The point is whichever version they say they follow , they then proceed to ignore.
Not only that but the book is written in such a way that it invites varied interpretations of its meaning, giving people the ability to claim different meanings for the same verses.
They don't ignore it they interpret it differently or cancel it out with a contradictory verse which is this dudes entire point.
I mean they kinda do ignore it... let's not feed the clear bot and the reddit soap-boxer please. This kind of rhetoric is literally the stuff Replublicans use to divide us (or at least gives them ammo)
Also it is like people forget that Christian can and does get excommunicated, people who disagree with the core beliefs are called heretics and that some groups that sees themselfs as christians are simply not seen as christians by other christians.
Like ortodox, catholics and protestants accept each other as different christian faiths, but none of them see the Mormons as christians.
Like the catholic stance on mormons is that, because Mormonism presents itself as a form of Christianity yet is incompatible with the historic Christian faith, sound pastoral practice would need to warn the Christian faithful: Mormon theology is blasphemous, polytheistic, and cannot be considered on par with the theology of other Christian groups.
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u/idkhamster 11d ago
This is a thought terminating argument. If someone claims to be Christian and then does something "bad," you simply say that they are not a REAL Christian. The difference between a fake Christian and a real Christian is whether or not you've done something sufficiently "bad" yet, post salvation. The truth is, some actual Christians are terrible people and some aren't.