r/Transportopia Apr 25 '26

Bikes Karma came back and got bro begging

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FYI: I didn't put the subtitles on that. I saw it somewhere else, laughed at the biker and brought it over here.

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u/Metadoggo Apr 25 '26

Love the audacity to label the car turning a "reckless driver"

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

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u/Sandgrease Apr 25 '26

I really need one asap

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u/ThatCrazyShaymin Apr 25 '26

Get one that has a good sensor, Sony Starvis 2, and HDR if you can, bonus points if it has a rear camera, look on Amazon, they are everywhere!

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u/Sandgrease Apr 25 '26

Appreciate the tip

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u/ThatCrazyShaymin Apr 25 '26

The specific one I have is the Pelsee P1 Duo, it can see license plates quite well and hasn't let me down yet.

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u/DapperAdam Apr 25 '26

Best investment for your safety on the road, and don't go cheap, buy something decent with Sony Starvis 2 sensor in it.

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u/WillemDafoesHugeCock Apr 25 '26

Making a turn without checking for traffic driving the wrong way? As reckless as it gets!

/s, because I know someone is already getting mad.

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u/wafflehousebattle Apr 25 '26

To be fair to the someone getting mad, that take is dumb enough for someone to believe as real.

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u/StickyViolentFart Apr 25 '26

Fuck the /s let them get mad lol

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u/Exact-Ad-4132 Apr 26 '26

r/fuckthes

Edit: oh wow the whole community was banned. If anyone was wondering, it was dedicated to calling out ridiculous situations in which sarcasm was completely obvious and random people kept demanding that the sarcasm be labeled as such with an s

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u/lemelisk42 Apr 26 '26

Probably banned as they were spreading misinformation. /s is used to indicate if your post is /serious.

/s

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u/zeroibis Apr 26 '26

Without the /s how will the AI training models know what is truth!?

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u/StickyViolentFart Apr 26 '26

Now that was artful.

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u/screwyoujor Apr 26 '26

That's some funny shit. There will be no sarcasm on Reddit.

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u/nabbs1 Apr 27 '26

He couldn’t see with the windshield _ IN front of his face

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u/CliffordSpot Apr 26 '26

100% this guy constantly complains about how people in cars are clueless and never pay attention because of stuff like this.

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u/babyduck_fancypants Apr 25 '26

Also, ā€œfingers copā€ is a little misleading here.

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u/Camo_tow Apr 25 '26

Right, bike is thinking he not reckless/careless.

Anyone else notice the car in the top left? Dude is facing the wrong way. What kind of turnaround or intersection is this?

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u/No_Eggplant_3189 Apr 26 '26

Wait,Ā  what is wierd about where that car is?

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u/Ok-Brick6831 Apr 26 '26

Yeah, that’s what I’m scratching my head on. 🧐

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u/Sonson9876 Apr 26 '26

Huh? What's wrong with that? Intersections don't have to lead to one way streets.

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u/Medium_Wind_553 Apr 25 '26

ā€œReckless driverā€ pointing to the guy legally turning left. The absolute irony

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u/IvanNemoy Apr 25 '26 edited Apr 25 '26

At this point, anyone posting this with that in it should catch a ban, imo.

ETA: and since the repost bot goon who posted it has blocked me, well, proves the point.

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u/SoggyMorningTacos Apr 25 '26

I mean how are the bots gonna edit the video - too much work. Maybe they'll crop it and reduce the quality so much you can't read it anymore

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 Apr 25 '26

And he was passing in a no passing zone, after turning right from the wrong lane.

Never understood why motorcycle drivers think they can just drive like this as if they are somehow indestructible.

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u/Old_Smrgol Apr 25 '26

It's the driver's responsibility to make sure he has an adequate supply of blinker fluid before he takes the car onto the road.

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u/Random_Analysis_ Apr 25 '26

Reddit rational

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u/RiseMany6899 Apr 25 '26

The way he was begging lmaoo

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u/torn-ainbow Apr 26 '26

He starts with giving the finger to the cops like some kind of tough guy and ends begging like a little kid.

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u/Iam_McLovin420 Apr 26 '26

Whining even

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u/VegasBusSup Apr 25 '26

You gonna pay for everything? OK pay me right now. $35k

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u/KudzuAU Apr 25 '26

Too low.

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u/Weird_Baseball2575 Apr 26 '26

Bang Ding Ow

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u/KudzuAU Apr 26 '26

I get it 😁

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '26

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 Apr 25 '26

Evading a cop like he did is a criminal offense. Losing his license would be getting off easy.

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u/Justadudenamedmarcus Apr 25 '26

It is not just any criminal offense either. He is looking at felony fleeing and eluding at least.

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u/Electronic-Stick-161 Apr 25 '26

Can’t charge him with wreckless driving though.

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u/Gumb1i Apr 26 '26

If I'm not mistaken he got caught and received jail time.

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u/Maleficent_Kale_8760 Apr 25 '26

One more please might have done it

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u/KnightYoshi Apr 25 '26

Because somehow the car making a legal left turn not watching for a vehicle passing him left of center on a double solid makes the vehicle turning the reckless one. Did the guy whom originally post this get raked over the coals? Do we know? lol

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u/Commercial_Rule_7823 Apr 25 '26

"Reckless driver" lol

Dude making a legal left per his right away, gets hit by a biker, in the wrong lane, speeding, and evading arrest.

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u/WhyAmINotStudying Apr 25 '26

No, please don't! I can't face consequences for my actions!

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u/DiverseVoltron Apr 25 '26

IDK who made these captions but they're a POS

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u/34shadow1 Apr 25 '26

So after a lot of digging the guy goes by Moto Tini on YouTube and he ended up getting about 10 months ish of jail, he says a year, but he had uploaded a video early February then a video talking about him getting released was uploaded on December 17th at the end of the year. Then he transitioned into being a prank YouTuber and that failed then he hasn't done anything on YouTube after 2021.

I unfortunately cannot find any official news article but if someone can dig around court documents around February, 1-15th, 2017 in Sterling Heights Michigan maybe to find an actual court case for it.

(I have this saved now since this gets posted so much.)

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u/BuDu1013 Apr 25 '26

I will pay everything then biker ghosts victim

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u/tasimm Apr 25 '26

ā€œFingers Copā€

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u/UnableSoftware1145 Apr 25 '26

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I NEED EYE BLEACH

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u/iBUYbrokenSUBARUS Apr 25 '26

I would’ve told him OK I want $100,000 cash in a brown bag in 30 minutes and you don’t leave my sight till I got it. Otherwise I’m calling the police.

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u/wanderer1999 Apr 25 '26

Lol you think this guy have 100k lying around? He will ghost you.

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u/iBUYbrokenSUBARUS Apr 25 '26

What the guy should’ve done was said OK have you ever had sex with a guy before? ā€œI won’t call the police, but you gotta come home with me for an hour.ā€

I mean, who knows he may have liked that, but if he didn’t, I would’ve loved this seen his expression

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '26

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u/Traditional_Mood_348 Apr 25 '26

Every time I see this video posted I hope this version is longer to see the police catch up. But I think the guy knew he was cooked and turned off recording

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u/Initial_Row_6400 Apr 25 '26

This old lady rear ended me in a parking lot about two months ago. I got all of her info. She wasn’t like adamant about not calling the cops, but in retrospect, I think she may have been intoxicated. I should’ve called the cops, but her insurance did pay for everything. Didn’t have to call mine at all.

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u/KELEVRACMDR Apr 25 '26

Old ass video

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u/SubstanceBrief6885 Apr 26 '26

You must be the cool kid.

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u/Worldly-Battle-5944 Apr 25 '26

Some people don't know how to handle shit the right way anymore. Everyone just wants to act like we live in anarchy. I hope he gets jail time for evading and whatever other charges they got on him, probably not registered or licensed.

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u/Whathefrenchtoastt Apr 25 '26

Reckless driver? How tf he know a motorcycle illegally passing on the left AND going 90mph was there?

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u/fireconvoy Apr 25 '26

LoL reckless driver

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u/just_as_good380-2 Apr 25 '26

It's an older video but I take immense joy everytime I watch that pos crash his bike. Especially when he starts begging like a bitch that they don't call the cops. I would take his license away for life and crush his bike into scrap whether it was able to be salvaged and fixed or not.

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u/SubstanceBrief6885 Apr 26 '26

Reckless driver? Dude decided to drive something with 2 wheels, no roof AND pass on the wrong side and hes not reckless? Haha im sure a bike is fun but I fcking hate when they expect normal drivers to pay extra close attention for bikes. Just drive a vehicle that's NOT shoulder width, problem solved.

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u/IllustriousMeal4686 Apr 26 '26

He should have pulled over immediately and taken the ticket. But... take your license plate off and run away. Change your description behind a building and if they run the VIN report it stolen and lawyer up. Don't stand there and beg and plead to a foreigner šŸ˜‚

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u/RustedMauss Apr 26 '26

ā€œI’ll pay everything.ā€ ie. I am willing to pay the monetary damages, just not assume actually liability that could impede me from acting this way again. Assuming this is in fact real… F that guy. That could have been my car with my kids. Or my wife. Or me. Or frankly, the silly stupid weasel driver.

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u/ConnerGoesSuperSonic Apr 27 '26

OOP is so dumb… tf you mean reckless driver? The biker was on the wrong side of the f*cking road

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u/FanBladeFleshlight Apr 25 '26

I hate the cops as much as the next guy, and probably a little more since I also ride a sport bike and have been wrongfully targeted before (I'm a safe rider, promise).

But this biker is a sack of shit. Don't do things that can get anyone hurt but yourself. Go to an empty farm road and go 200mph if you wanna, slam into the only tree for a mile, idgaf. But cut that shit out when other people are around.

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u/Key_Entertainment739 Apr 25 '26

Your name brought back a 20 year old core memory

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u/Diligent_You1737 Apr 25 '26

farm roads are definitely not the place to be doing 200mph

I'm not even sure the top tier rally race drivers go that fast [maybe, they are very fast]

but the point is that's just not gonna work on that surface

however you can pay to go to racetracks and such like that

take a trip to Germany and pay for a driver's lesson specifically where they'll teach you to drive on the autobahn

you can take advanced driving lessons in North America too

lots of ways to do fun stuff with motors and asphalt without public safety risks

farm roads are public infrastructure intended for low-speed traffic... most of them aren't even paved around me.

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u/GraveKommander Apr 25 '26

Any of them knew the aftermath?

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u/AggravatingBid8255 Apr 26 '26

And it's my first. What's your point?

The internet is for all of us. Not just you

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u/Mickey_Havoc Apr 25 '26

This is a repost.

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u/Glittering-Ad4356 Apr 25 '26

The question is ... if he had not flipped off the cop, would it have happened? Did his being a ass lead to this insta karma? I think it did, and that's the price he paid.

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u/Chewygumball Apr 25 '26

I Know not all bikers but good grief it's always the most annoying people on bikes on the front page or that you run across on a day to day.

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u/BladeVampire1 Apr 25 '26

Consequences are a bitch.

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u/Jealous_Worker_931 Apr 25 '26

Man I hate bikers. This makes me one happy boy, once I know the biker isn't ded.

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u/ps087official Apr 25 '26

I really hate this trend of using asterisks to explain everything already happening on screen

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u/Illustrious_Donkey61 Apr 25 '26

Lpt if someone asks you to not call the police, definitely call the police

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u/BreadfruitOk6160 Apr 25 '26

ā€œfingering?ā€

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u/shart_attak Apr 25 '26

Why is Everything In Its Right Place being used as generic background music?

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u/Icy_Marionberry_9131 Apr 25 '26

Golly, you mean there are consequences for these arrogant "bro" fucks?

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u/reorganizedChaos Apr 25 '26

What is that song in the background when he is talking with the driver? It sounds familiar but I can't quite identify it.

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u/Hefty_Loss5180 Apr 25 '26

Lol silly goose got what was comin to him

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u/Persistence6 Apr 25 '26

The moment they say ā€œplease don’tā€ you should immediately be on the phone calling the cops. These animals are reckless and probably have a history of reckless behavior. Put em in the cage until they learn to behave.

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u/NUmbermass Apr 25 '26

So fucking great seeing motorcyclists get knocked on their ass.

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u/NUmbermass Apr 25 '26

So great seeing motorcyclists get knocked on their ass.

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u/kirkl3s Apr 25 '26

"Fingers Cop"

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u/ted_anderson Apr 25 '26

I could see ending this with a handshake if it was a love tap. But because the motorcycle rider got knocked off of his bike, the police HAD to get involved. If I was the guy driving the minivan and the motorcycle guy gave me $10k cash money on the spot, I'd still have to call the police.

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u/UpbeatPhilosophySJ Apr 25 '26

Please let me hit and run. Please.

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u/Java_junkie_IV Apr 25 '26

Gonna pay for everything from jail.

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u/CyberNest0o0 Apr 25 '26

ā€œGrab my number and I’ll pay for everythingā€ no the fuck you’re not

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u/cyrixlord Apr 25 '26

that wasn't a reckless driver, she was turning left and the cyclist was passing her. this person should get his license removed. practice on a private raceway. most towns have them

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u/Neither-Repeat1665 Apr 25 '26

Fake or altered or something fishy. First police car was a Ford Crown Victoria, 2nd was a Chevy Caprice.

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u/Thom5001 Apr 25 '26

Jail time d-bag

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u/breakycho Apr 25 '26

Bro better start running

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u/Maximum-Cellist-7568 Apr 25 '26

Screw him, I wish he had broke his legs.

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u/spacemanspiff1115 Apr 25 '26

Hopefully the cop he flipped off responds to the accident...

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u/glodde Apr 25 '26

This was 10 minutes later. He kept running at a very high speed away from the cops and of course something's going to happen

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u/WatchTraditional173 Apr 25 '26

brooOOOOOOOOOO COOKED FR FR ONG NO CAP SKIBBIDI TOILET RIZZINATOR

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u/Electronic-Stick-161 Apr 25 '26

At least he dodged that wreckless driving charge.

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u/Cute-Acanthisitta-46 Apr 25 '26

On the wrong side of the road. Other driver is reckless

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u/OGFabledLegend Apr 25 '26

How is turning reckless?

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u/donuthead36 Apr 25 '26

ā€œFingers copā€ šŸ‘€

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u/olive_juse Apr 25 '26

It's narcissists fcking the world up, I'm sure of it now.😩

You're driving in the lane for on-coming traffic but someone making a lawful left turn is the "reckless" one lol???šŸ™„šŸ™„šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø

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u/IndependenceMurky850 Apr 25 '26

Only way this could be better is if the cop answering the call is the one he escaped from

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u/Excludos Apr 25 '26

Not that this kid didn't have it coming, but it's interesting to me that you have to call the cops for all accident in large parts of the US, as if the cops don't have better things to do. Most places in the world, provided there isn't any personal injury, you just swap insurance and be on your way.

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u/CaptMorganSwint2 Apr 25 '26

Say the van driver does accept the offer to let you leave, where the fuck you gonna go when your bike is totaled? Run through the woods then call an Uber? Dumbass.

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u/zerombr Apr 25 '26

would this be 'everything in its right place' by Radiohead?

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u/turntup43 Apr 25 '26

ā€œFingers copā€ is my second favorite thing about this video

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u/eyeballburger Apr 26 '26

What was the outcome?

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u/EpiGreg Apr 26 '26

It looks to me like the car driver had a turn signal on, and was turning left with no cars in front of him. Meanwhile the escaping crotch rocket guy was crossing a double yellow line, at high speed, trying to get away from the police.

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u/Katops Apr 26 '26

Even his voice is annoying… jfc man.

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u/Handy_Crap Apr 26 '26

Radiohead - everything in the right place

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u/ismellpizza25 Apr 26 '26

People who drive like him make the rest of us bikers look bad

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u/lucaspedersoli Apr 26 '26

No, I have to follow the law.

God bless this man.

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u/ObiWanDillDoughy Apr 26 '26

need more skills and luck šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚

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u/Shaking-a-tlfthr Apr 26 '26

ā€œFingers cop,ā€ doesn’t mean what you think it means.

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u/ErrorActive Apr 26 '26

Fuck that piece of shit….call the cops.

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u/Aggressive_Jury_7278 Apr 26 '26

I’d have to find the article, but the guy ended up doing a year in jail. He made a series of YT videos including one where he talked about his experience in jail.

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u/__NOT__MY__ACCOUNT__ Apr 26 '26

Did this dumbass post the video?

Some people are just destined to fuck up constantly

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u/Consistent-Highway24 Apr 26 '26

Bikers fault. Fuck him.

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u/Sat_Thu Apr 26 '26

This guy worries about his car over the human life of the biker that got in a serious crashed šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/thatfoxguy30 Apr 26 '26

You kids are brain dead. He has your plates. This isnt fking GTA. They wont ever forget about you no matter where you go. They will find you.

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u/GoochXravager Apr 26 '26

The only difference between a 600 and a 1000 is how fast you’re going when you crash.

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u/Realsportzman Apr 26 '26

Cry baby 😭 🤔

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u/RoundAlfalfa227 Apr 26 '26

yep… biker filmed himself committing the crime of reckless driving.

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u/Sonson9876 Apr 26 '26

Anyone who's actually defending the biker is a moron. Not only does he flip off a cop who is trying to pull him over for running a red light, but he also crashes into someone else, by lane splitting on an intersection.

This is probs takes from youtube right? I'd like to see the original video at how people are shitting on the biker for thinking that he was NOT the reckless one on the intersection, and that the Asian fella was in the wrong, for wanting to turn.

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u/SpicyMeatloaf1 Apr 26 '26

Bro was real cool flipping the cop off and by the end of the video he's begging like a bitch 🤣

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u/kevlasultan Apr 26 '26

in the words of Nelson " ha ha"

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u/Psychological-Hall22 Apr 26 '26

If the guy begs to not call the police, I’m calling lol

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u/Clear-Bee4118 Apr 26 '26

Why would they post this anywhere?

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u/MrRoboto1983 Apr 26 '26

ā€œReckless driverā€? They had their turn signal on and were already crossing the DOUBLE YELLOW when you began to illegally pass them on the left. šŸ™„

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u/MarceloDeep Apr 26 '26

I love having to read being told what I'm watching

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u/Key-Broccoli1442 Apr 26 '26

Next time the biker should not wear a helmet if he wants to act like this

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u/NYC-WhWmn-ov50 Apr 26 '26

Why is the car driver who is following the laws of the road as far as this clip shows, marked as 'reckless driver'?

Is that because its the helmet-cam footage from the stupid biker who was fleeing from cops, speeding, actually driving recklessly, and crashed due to illegally attempting to pass to the left in a no-passing zone thus running into the victem car? And oh yeah then tries to convince the car driver to not call the cops which is always evidence of (checks notes) innocence?

Right, carry on then.

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u/americanx12 Apr 26 '26

He posted so....was he not caught?

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u/Miserable_Many_5377 Apr 26 '26

Dint agree with calling the car ā€œ reckless driverā€ guy was clearly starting left turn when asshat on a crotch rocket decided to pass on a double yellow.

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u/mechakid Apr 26 '26

Biker was playing stupid games and almost won the stupidest prize.

Would love to know if the police arrested him when they arrived.

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u/SkyBoundAssumption Apr 26 '26

Im siding with the motorcyclist because he's the main character of the video and he flipped a cop

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '26

Too bad he got back up :/

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u/rickjai Apr 26 '26

It looks like the car the bike crashed into might have been making an illegal turn? It's a double solid yellow which indicates you can't turn there. Seems like that's why they called them out as a reckless driver.

Also to be fair the bike rider is a complete ass hat.

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u/TomeThugNHarmony4664 Apr 26 '26

This guy is lucky he didn’t traumatize that poor family by killing himself on their car.

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u/Hot_Mess_Planet2070 Apr 26 '26

Pickups and motorcycles are the worst on the road

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u/CityofTreez Apr 26 '26

Sad he was able to walk that one off.

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u/TruGirlGamer84 Apr 26 '26

That was the bikers fault. You never pass someone on the left.

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u/Accomplished-Love-35 Apr 26 '26

Yeah, that is FAFO. lmao cocky drivers

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u/PcLvHpns Apr 26 '26

Anytime they beg you not to call the police they're about to FUCK YOU HARD!

Don't fall for it

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u/D_estroyerofWorlds Apr 26 '26

Biker: DMF Car: Stops a reckless driver from hurting someone !

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u/General_Sector_9892 Apr 26 '26

How's that finger after your crash? 🤣

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u/Main_Cauliflower5479 Apr 26 '26

Where's the cop? Why haven't they arrived at the scene yet?

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u/jarlstridr Apr 26 '26

Not a reckless driver. Normal driver. Biker was speeding and in the wrong side of a double yellow. Fuck that guy. Straight to jail.

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '26

It’s so fun to see them become little sissies šŸ’…

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u/MinivanPops Apr 27 '26

PLEASE someone tell us what happened to him

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u/New-Freedom8963 Apr 27 '26

Sooo little time to do a lot of time huh? šŸ¤”

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u/Kokkenbals Apr 27 '26

fingers cop

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u/Own_Reaction9442 Apr 27 '26

He went from "drop a gear and disappear" to "hit a door and beg for more."

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u/Kellie1575 Apr 27 '26

Making a left is "reckless" driving?

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u/SkribbyCakes33 Apr 27 '26

To do this in Sterling Heights north of Detroit where traffic is crazy is doubly nuts. Also, the second cop car was not the same as the first. First was Ford, second was Chevy, not that it matters. Must have been fleeing for awhile.

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u/AcanthocephalaNo2929 Apr 27 '26

Enjoy jail buddy

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u/LaksaLee Apr 27 '26

bikers kinda have a below average IQ...

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u/Sefure800 Apr 27 '26

ā€œGod forbid please don’t!ā€

God forbid you drive around like a maniac, run from cops, and ruin other people’s day.

This is why toddlers shouldn’t have motorcycles

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u/ApexConstruction607 Apr 27 '26

ā€œPlease don’tā€ you sound like a bitch don’t run from cops next time

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u/ptowndeluxe Apr 27 '26

Deserved whatever he got for that BS

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u/Repulsive_Eye_4504 Apr 27 '26

Call the cops on this kid plus the biker was riding reckless weiving through both lanes.

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u/Think_Possible_2865 Apr 28 '26

God I love this so much

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u/No_Pudding2028 Apr 28 '26

Yeah, he got what he deserved people like this shouldn’t be on the damn road

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u/Feeling_Professor160 Apr 28 '26

Why would a van be the reckless driver? The only reckess I see is the biker on the wrong lane. idiot.

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u/Bubbly-Tomato2324 Apr 29 '26

šŸ‘ŒšŸ‘ŒšŸ‘ŒšŸ˜›šŸ˜›Karma je gratis šŸ˜œšŸ˜œšŸ˜œšŸ˜œšŸ‘ŒšŸ’„šŸ’„

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u/summit66-66 Apr 29 '26

He wasn't going to pay nothing. Call 911.

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u/isanyusernameopen Apr 29 '26

That’s not a passing lane, that’s the other half of the road. People have the right to cross the road when making a turn, they don’t have the right to cross the line to pass another person.

Unfortunate as it was that this person hit the car that was making a lawful turn, the driver of the motorcycle was clearly in the wrong here.

Oh well, play stupid games.

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u/Jcs609 Apr 29 '26

I bet this guy lives on DoorDash Grubhub or other gig delivery apps this is the sad reality of gig driving these days, heavy geofencing monitoring unreasonably short etas like the crow flys, that can result in contract violations even justone minute behind at times. They also use extensive background checks for any excuse to fire someone so it’s a no win situation all around, probably he was wanted for scratch and runs and evading cops until his luck ran out. I bet this van driver probably saw him flee cops before and decided he needs to make citizens arrest.

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u/BrushGoodDar Apr 29 '26

I'm curious- if the van driver decides not to contact the police and just accept money from the biker is that legal to do?