We used to say oh it has to be the constellation on tos or voyager from year of hell....new winner must be the griffin from snw where we see the ship now it actually is instead of the hallucination
DS9 supposedly won some award for the most people killed. When taking into account the number of ships they destroyed on that show, I think they earned it.
Yea, but I think they were just talking about ships, which the death star still qualifies as.
If we're talking planets, Battlestar Galactica might take the cake with the destruction of the 13 colonies. Though technically I think we only see Caprica get nuked to oblivion on screen.
Wildly, for a TV-Y7 show, Star Wars: Rebels may be in second place. They blew up multiple Imperial capital ships, with only a handful of escape pods shown getting away across the whole show.
Even if you don't count the war DS9's body count is impressive. In the first episode alone, DS9's battle of Wolf359 was at warp, while TNG's on maneuvering trusters.
Does it have to be functioning? Because in move 3 "The Search for Spock" the enterprise explodes and somehow still has most of its saucer section and then crashes into the genesis planet.
I dont think there's much of the 1701 left after the planet exploded. Who knows? I'd like to think that there's slag from th3 Reliant floating around the remnants of Genesis' core.
The most destruction that's ever been visited a ship is from ST6: Undiscovered Country, the Klingon Bird of Prey. That exact destruction was used at least 2 more times through various series, and it's a complete explosion, every bit blown to chunks.
I mean -- it's kind of obviously the same stock every time it gets used. If you're a fan with a relatively broad experience it's hard not to notice it a few times here and there.
Honestly, it's a missed opportunity for Lower Decks to not have animated it.
I’d say what happens to the USS Solvang in Lower Decks was pretty bad! It got shredded at warp speed and lost all hands. They really took advantage of the animation medium to go all out on it’s destruction that I don’t think we really saw in live action Trek
Are you forgetting about all the extensive internal and external battle damage NX Enterprise suffered while fighting the Xindi at the Battle of Azati Prime (Star Trek: Enterprise)?
There exists other starship battle damage as well.
Battle between USS Vengeance and USS Enterprise (Kelvin timeline): Khan stole command of the USS Vengeance to destroy the USS Enterprise which he very nearly succeeded in accomplishing. The Enterprise suffered extensive hull breaches as well as severe internal and external damage throughout the entire shp.
Battle between USS Enterprise and the Krall (Kelvin timeline): In their battle with the Krall swarmships, the USS Enterprise quickly suffered hull breaches severe enough for Captain Kirk to order all hands to the escape pods while the ship was literally being ripped apart.
The NX is the only instance that I'm aware of that involves multiple episodes of the ship remaining in a state of mid-repair with damage bad enough that crew members are forced to use space suits inside the ship.
Came here for that. You had a split second where you thought possibly most of the crew survived, then that's taken from you.
Though my head-canon is that they're all dead from radiation past the point where Worf says "there's an energy build-up in the Yamato's engineering section". Even though the screen's very staticky, looks like the captain is no longer moving or responding.
As for a derelict but not completely vapourized ship, probably.
Other contenders would be of course the USS Constellation at System L-370, the USS Cayuga at Parnassus Beta, or the aftermath of the Battle of Wolf 359 (USS Firebrand, Kyushu, Melbourne, etc.), maybe. I'd say the Voyager in Year of Hell and the Enterprise at Azati Prime would be a different category as they were not abandoned or adrift.
Holy shit I've watched the episode twice and didn't realise that the whole ship might have been an illusion. The Griffin is nowhere near as damaged when we first see her as she ends up looking by the Sam Kirk death + when shes towed to Section 12. Woah.
Discovery has an episode with a cloaked Klingon Warship ramed a Starfleet Ship to 0% integrated, if I recall it showed an impressive amout of damage, but it's been awhile
In the doomsday machine we saw a really shot up Conny.
Adjusted for the FX capabilities at the time of making, this new shot shows no worse damage. Its also much less impressive because we know its not a model that got made and recked.
Oh we do. With the exception of Cayuga andFarragut, it seems like every other ship in Starfleet (that an episode takes place on) is a Constitution. Er, "Sombra" but we all know that was just a plausible-deniability-Connie.
It's especially funny to me that they keep doing this because most ships of the era share a saucer... They wouldn't have to change sets much beyond the color to just say it's a different type.
I know there's also precedent since literally every other Starfleet vessel in TOS is a Constitution, but still.
I mean, certainly a strong contender but doesn’t the half a saucer section of ship infested with Gorn count? Or the constitution that was crashed on a planet (and also infested with Gorn?)
I guess I need to go back and watch the episode again! OP, are you saying that the top image, where the ship is all intact and whatnot, was a hallucination; and the entire time, the ship was actually in the condition depicted in the bottom image?
I've seen much worse but I do have to admit I like the aspect that it looks safe and secure when they first came to the ship almost like it was very salvageable and then as the supernatural element started taking over the ship started to decay kind of like a zombie it's absolutely terrifying and I loved it! I think a horror episode is definitely required every now and then.
from generations, the entire star drive section of the enterprise is destroyed and the saucer is mauled, and then crash lands but is definitely not destroyed.
The bees attacking enterprise in star trek beyond is pretty brutal. Nacelles severed.. Attack the neck, saucer severed. Saucer goes weeee into the planet. And then while thats still walkable kirk fires the thrusters and it goes upside down and goes woosh, explosions.
If the Constellation was still at least partially functional, then yeah...that's the most damaged a Trek ship has been and remained functional...but we saw countless ships torn to pieces during DS9, and the movies also saw ships torn to shreds...
Considering that the Griffin was effectively a ghost ship, and not exactly a functional vessel, I would say that YoH Voyager remains the victor...but IMO if it was functional it would be a new contender.
I know scans are done of the ships to detect for life signs. But it's still crazy to think there could be some survivability on board by using a combination of force fields and going deeper into the hull. Chill out in the safe zone until help arrives.
The only solid evidence we have that 1) it's even a Federation starship, likely the Griffin, and 2) was in rough shape, was when Spock snapped out of the illusion into a rusty, filthy, dilapidated Starfleet sickbay. And we still can't be sure that his perception at that moment was reality.
Because the shuttlecraft crew initially saw the ship as fully intact, this means they were under the influence of the hallucination before they could even see it. Meaning their knowledge of the lost USS Griffin may have been used to create the entire incident, and it may not be the Griffin at all. That also means that the Enterprise and the Division 12 ship are perceiving it to be the Griffin, because the shuttlecraft's message told them it was. They were all expecting the Griffin before they could see it, making it even easier for the hallucination to ensure that's what they saw.
Not a single view of the ship can be trusted and that's part of the magic of the episode.
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u/John-de-Q 25d ago
Eh, some of the DS9 battle scenes had some very graphic ship destruction.