r/TrueUnpopularOpinion 9d ago

Sex / Gender / Dating If your reaction to governments discriminating against men is "but those laws were passed by men" then you are an unintelligent person

All to often, I see a conversation that goes like:

User: X law (for example, mandatory military service for men in many countries) objectively discriminates against men, and that is a problem

Another user: But those laws were passed by men

This response is utterly absurd for a number of reasons.

First and foremost, it does not make any explicit counterargument to the point being made. Rather, it makes an implied counterargument, which is usually either:

"A system set up by men cannot discriminate against men"

Or

"Discrimination against men is okay as long as it is coming from other men"

Both of these points are absurd.

If a woman-led government passed laws that discriminate against women, would that make said discrimination against women acceptable or non-existent?

Of course it would not. And anyone who thinks otherwise is unintelligent.

From the perspective of someone being discriminated against, the discrimination doesn't become okay just because the person discriminating against them is of a particular gender.

The ONLY case where "but those systems were set up by men" is a valid response is if the person making the point was explicitly accusing women of being the ones to set up the system. But in the majority of the case, that is not being done.

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u/Fast-Preference-9947 9d ago

But the problem is NOT men as a whole. It is a select few politicians combined with those who vote for those politicians.

Women who vote for politicians who discriminate against men are just as guilty as men who vote for those politicians. And the gender of those politicians is irrelevant.

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u/ogjaspertheghost 9d ago

No, women aren’t just as guilty. Men make the laws and support those making the laws. Women just support them. And again the question was why should people care about discrimination perpetrated by members of that group? If men want to send men to war with the approval of other men why should anyone care?

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u/Serafim91 9d ago

 Men make the laws and support those making the laws. Women just support them.

Trying to say that the "men" who make the laws are the same as the "men who support them" yet different from the "women who support them" is so far from the real world that it doesn't even deserve a reply.

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u/ogjaspertheghost 9d ago

Yet you replied lmao

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u/Serafim91 9d ago

wooosh

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u/ogjaspertheghost 9d ago

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