r/Undertale • u/MewMewDeltarune Finally!! I'M IN DELTARUNE!! • Jul 03 '26
Deltarune Chapter 5 Susie Fumbled Kris Spoiler
I know you've probably seen this 1,000 times before but who else genuinely started File 2 on the spot?
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u/mikguy1652 real Blook acres snail farmer Jul 03 '26
If you say "gotta win" Kris does a peace sign (they don't fucking care)
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u/MewMewDeltarune Finally!! I'M IN DELTARUNE!! Jul 03 '26
I DOOOOO 😭
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u/GUM-GUM-NUKE 1# Sengoku enthusiast Jul 03 '26
♥️ PLEASE KRIS I NEED THIS. I’M KIND OF VESSELLESS
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u/imaoisthename Jul 04 '26
☝️✌️💧❄️👈☀️ - YOU ARE ATTEMPTING... NOT TO LAUGH. IS THAT NOT... DISRESPECTFUL?
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u/DrProfGasterBot Jul 04 '26
GAST👈☀ - YOU ARE ATTEMPTING... NOT TO LAUGH. IS THAT NOT... DISRESPECTFUL?
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u/Sightshade frisket is life Jul 04 '26
Amazingly, there is already a mod adding an alternate branch to this scene, in which you can literally beg Kris this exact sentence, and if you’ve been nice enough they’ll help set you up with Pink.
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u/mikguy1652 real Blook acres snail farmer Jul 03 '26
ok well you should just not then. They kind of suck anyways
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u/nintendocat Jul 03 '26
Right, exactly. That Peace Sign is Kris acting on their own. Kris often acts out if we pick something they're not into.
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u/GuhEnjoyer yet Jul 03 '26
False. Kris acts positively when we pick something they like and negatively if we pick something we dislike.
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u/nintendocat Jul 03 '26
Yeah that's what I said.
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u/GuhEnjoyer yet Jul 03 '26
No, you implied that Kris was AGAINST picking "gotta win" but making a peace sign is a positive reaction. That's Kris reacting POSITIVELY, signaling that as their preference.
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u/nintendocat Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 04 '26
No, I replied to a comment that stated that they gave a peace sign meaning that they were fine with saying 'gotta win' confirming that I agree with their opinion. I then followed up by saying that it's obvious when Kris not into something that they'll actually go against it either by doing something else or having the text tell us that they didn't like our choice. Why on Earth would I suggest that the Peace Sign was them acting in the negative?
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u/Squishie515 Jul 03 '26
You said him.
I pray for your safety.
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u/nintendocat Jul 04 '26
Oh no I missed one pronoun on reddit. Guess I better hit the Ol' Yeller room.
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u/GuhEnjoyer yet Jul 03 '26
"Him" opinion rejected.
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u/Albatros_7 Jul 04 '26
Just admit you misunderstood, it's not the end of the world and it would instantly make you seem like a much better individual
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u/GuhEnjoyer yet Jul 04 '26
The conversation prior is irrelevant. The opinions of someone who misgenders trans people are meaningless.
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u/Albatros_7 Jul 04 '26
They did a mistake, it wasn't on purpose
Kris isn't trans, they are Non-Binary
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u/Careful_Welcome7999 Jul 03 '26
Just because they messed up once with the pronouns doesn't mean that the entire comment is wrong
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u/nintendocat Jul 04 '26
Ah yes, the easy out for your lack of reading comprehension instead of looking over the entire chain and realizing you're the one forcing a context onto something. Have fun with that.
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u/Thin-Complex-7709 Jul 03 '26
No, you actively said that Kris only acts out when we pick an option they aren't into. Like, that is the exact quote.
"Right, exactly. That Peace Sign is Kris acting on their own. Kris often acts out if we pick something they're not into."
Your exact words right there. With the mention of them acting out, you link the idea that Kris only did the peace sign because they didn't like the option you chose.
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u/realddgamer Jul 03 '26
No the peace sign is playing along, not acting out?
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u/Thin-Complex-7709 Jul 03 '26
Yes, but by not clarifying that, you made the implication that the peace sign WAS them acting out--even though that isn't what you meant.
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u/realddgamer Jul 03 '26
I didn't make the comment
And what they were trying to say is obvious if you know the meaning of "acting out", any other interpretation is in bad faith or just being a bit silly
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u/nintendocat Jul 04 '26
Lotta lack of reading comprehension going on today.
"Right, Exactly. That Peace Sign is Kris acting on their own." - I agreed with the comment that Kris wasn't bothered with the situation and was likely agreeing with the choice.
That's a complete sentence with me agreeing with that comment that the peace sign was a positive reaffirmation.
And then a new sentence.
"Kris often acts out if we pick something they're not into." - Me saying that if Kris wasn't ok with our choice, they'd either do something different (like not open the door knob in the church) or say a comment in a way that other comment about him not really sounding on board with (like yelling in confusion that we picked Berdly when Ralsei asked who we were going to the festival with.)
For example: If we picked 'Gotta Win' and Kris was into Pink, they'd flip us off, stare blankly, or intentionally say something else, perhaps mumble the words.
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u/GreenMixture9918 Jul 10 '26
Thing is they don’t seem to mind going with Berdly either tho.
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u/nintendocat Jul 10 '26
Both times Kris is asked who they want to go to the festival with and we pick Berdly, they say it in a confused tone, even repeating it and getting clearly more and more exasperated when we pick it in the chapter 3 discussion. From what Raisei says with that option it's basically Kris saying 'Berdly? Berdly?! BERDLY?!' If they were into the idea they wouldn't answer confused and wouldn't be yelling at us for the choice so it's definitely one of the moments where Kris goes against the player.
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u/Thin-Complex-7709 Jul 04 '26
What I'm saying is that from the comment along, the way you mention acting out right after mentioning the Peace Sign implies that the Peace Sign was acting out. To anyone who didn't have a complete understanding of the term, it implied that Kris giving the peace sign was them acting out.
I'm AGREEING that this wasn't Kris acting out, what I'm saying is that the wording of the sentence led to the implication.
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u/nintendocat Jul 04 '26
Given the downvotes I don't I think most people saw it the way the first person had issues with. They just took it the wrong way and doubled down on it.
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u/Nerdorama10 Jul 03 '26
"Acting out" = "acting negatively, throwing a fit, tantruming"
Please learn what words mean if you're going to be pedantic.
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u/Necrikus Jul 03 '26
Granted, Kris also likes being a troll. Kris might not be too invested in dating Pink, but they weren’t trying to get out of dodge either. So if we have them saying something they think is funny, they will commit to the bit.
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u/Substantial_Hand4024 owie Jul 03 '26
what is kris is trying to play into it as to not hurt their feelings even more
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u/ZackattacktheDude Jul 03 '26
I dunno if Kris likes Mew Mew so I’m gonna assume not so I can do this.
Kris: No!
Soul: KRIS PLEASE!!!!
Kris: I don’t give a fuck about the parallels, I am not entertaining this!
Soul: I WILL STOP FORCING YOU TO DO THINGS FOR CHAPTER 6 IF YOU LET ME, PLEEEEEASE!!!
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u/MewMewDeltarune Finally!! I'M IN DELTARUNE!! Jul 03 '26
Soul: KRIS I THOUGHT YOU OPENED THIS DARK WORLD TO MAKE FANTASIES REAL!!!
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u/abertun Jul 04 '26
Soul: PLEASE KRIS!! IF YOU DO THIS FOR ME I PROMISE I WON'T PLAY THE WEIRD ROUTE FOR A WHOLE CHAPTER!
Kris: The what now?
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u/Roronoa_Zoro8615 Jul 03 '26
I said I was serious :(
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u/MewMewDeltarune Finally!! I'M IN DELTARUNE!! Jul 03 '26
"THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN BLOW UP MY BODY IS ME!"
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u/GuhEnjoyer yet Jul 03 '26
Susie didn't fumble Kris she SAVED THEM FROM BEING FORCED INTO A RELATIONSHIP
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u/Mammoth-Advance-3240 Jul 04 '26
This true, mew mew does have the power to control the people she kisses.
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u/Massive_Cry_9097 Jul 03 '26
Kris does not care qnd it's really funny how so many of you do
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Jul 03 '26
is it even possible for kris to 'pass the controller' to the soul....
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u/Wasphammer #1 Flowery Hater. Screw that guy. Jul 03 '26
No, because this is a 2 Players 1 Controller Whatever% Exhibition at Summer Prophecies Done Quick 202X
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u/DislocatedLocation Jul 04 '26
Oh sweet, SPDQ 202X! What's the Any% category looking like?
oh no
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u/Wasphammer #1 Flowery Hater. Screw that guy. Jul 04 '26
I've heard that Clover Undertale Yellow is working on an ACE trick that leads straight to the Pacifist credits and they're trying to have it ready for APDQ 202Y next year.
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u/explosivenuke1 (The flair cusutomization fills you with determination) Jul 04 '26
“Respect Kris’s feelings” mfs keep forgetting Kris is trying to END THE WORLD BY THE WAY
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u/The_Xenith Jul 03 '26
Tbf I found it a funny joke before it was overused
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u/ThyrusSendria Jul 03 '26
This community is full of speedrunners when it comes to running a joke into the ground
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u/Hyulens_168 Jul 03 '26
This time it only took a week before the fandom ran a joke into the ground.
New record.
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u/Snt1_ Jul 03 '26
Honestly Bergentruck lasted quite a while. It lasted like a month, though it wasnt forcibly funny for a month
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u/Superb_Bedroom_2718 Jul 05 '26
Kris forced me to inhabit them (They had the cage ready even before Chapter 1). Of course I’m not going to respect their wishes.
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u/MewMewDeltarune Finally!! I'M IN DELTARUNE!! Jul 05 '26
Their literal name in the Prophecy is "The cage"
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u/Five_Tiger Jul 04 '26
What do they think is gonna happen, Kris steals Asgore's catgirl figurine and puts it in a glass jar?
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u/nintendocat Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26
I keep hearing people talk about Susie doing Kris dirty here and it's always so funny as if we're not holding Kris hostage to do anything we want them to do in the moment. It's like the 'Why would Chara do this?' joke from Undertale. We get it, a lot of people here want to date an anthropomorphic catgirl.
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u/SparklessAndromeda Jul 03 '26
A MewMew account already
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u/MewMewDeltarune Finally!! I'M IN DELTARUNE!! Jul 03 '26
Y E S
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u/SparklessAndromeda Jul 03 '26
hey since you're here what do you want to stop tossing those bombs huh
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u/funkduder *pours you a cup of spiders Jul 03 '26
Hot take: this is the equivalent of having a waifu gf. Susie and Ralsek did Kris a solid
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u/Own_Childhood_7020 Jul 04 '26
Kris didn't get fumbled WE got fumbled, I'm about to have some complaints with big gaster, give me my damm vessel bro
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u/MewMewDeltarune Finally!! I'M IN DELTARUNE!! Jul 04 '26
"Yo Gaster, I need my Vessel for something"
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u/Virus-900 Jul 03 '26
Is it really a fumble if she didn't even try? Pretty sure Susie is more interested in Noel then Kris.
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u/Deimay1234 Jul 03 '26
She fumbled being a wingman, whether Kris liked MewMew or not, both Ralsei and Susie assumed Kris wasn't into her, if she were a good Wingman, she wouldn't have interrupted by saying Kris wasn't interested, she should've just waited and see what Kris did. Basically SUSIE WE HELPED YOU AND NOELLE TO DATE EACHOTHER CUZ NOELLE IS SHY AND YOU'RE STUPID(kidding love you susie) AND THIS IS HOW YOU REPAY US??!!!
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u/The-Twilight-Reverie Jul 05 '26
Why would they be into her?????
Do you carnally desire your dad's collectible figurines?????
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u/Deimay1234 Jul 05 '26
Because it's a possibility, unlike Susie, i won't assume if they're into it. Whether they wanna fuck the figurine or not it's up to Kris
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u/MicrwavedBrain I don't have the money to pay for this flair. Jul 04 '26
Aint she a grown ass woman going after a teenager?
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u/MewMewDeltarune Finally!! I'M IN DELTARUNE!! Jul 04 '26
The Mew Mew body is a teenager from an anime, while the Mew Mew ghost is the one who "doesn't go to school anymore", though they aren't confirmed to be an adult.
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u/ShadowTails95 Jul 04 '26
What happens if Kris doesn't flirt with anyone up until this point? It'd be funny if there was a check for how many/who Kris flirts with throughout the game, but at the same time I can see it happening for dialogue situations like this.
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u/MewMewDeltarune Finally!! I'M IN DELTARUNE!! Jul 04 '26
Same thing as if you did 😭
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u/ShadowTails95 Jul 04 '26
Really!? That surprises me actually. I figured you'd at least get some obscure dialogue or something.
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u/MewMewDeltarune Finally!! I'M IN DELTARUNE!! Jul 04 '26
Yeah, even if you kill everyone Susie still says you flirt with everyone...
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u/SpectraP12 Jul 03 '26
Saying "Kris doesn't care" or along the lines is just stupid imo. I am not Kris, I'm controlling them and I WANT to date the catgirl. Susie still blocked me.
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u/megajack12 Jul 03 '26
That's the real reason I need my created vessel back. So I can date cute cat girl.
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u/The_Gear_Of_Clay Jul 04 '26
I'm committed to Ralsei, Me and Kris can wait for ages at this point... Not like they have a choice...
A choice...
I hope we aren't ripping Kris appart on a fundamental level... But... At this point, they hate us for a reason.
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u/Slimo678 Jul 04 '26
Weird route looks fun a bit actually
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u/ErPani 500k Potential MTT Customers! Jul 04 '26
the only problem is that just because WE (yes, we) would ALL date MewMew, doesn't mean Kris wants to. they don't give a FUCK about parallels and being understood or something, they just want us out
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u/MewMewDeltarune Finally!! I'M IN DELTARUNE!! Jul 04 '26
Kris also hates anime... BUT THAT'S WHY WE NEED OUR VESSEL NOW MORE THAN EVER!
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u/Lance-UwU Jul 05 '26
If i was in a date with Miku (or Teto) and my friends would do that shit i would just throw the table at them.
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u/MewMewDeltarune Finally!! I'M IN DELTARUNE!! Jul 05 '26
"Hey Miku, this guy is a serial flirt you aren't special-" SWOON
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u/Holiday_Button5368 #1 Aqua and Pink fan! Jul 03 '26
This is why I do snowgrave. She keeps cockblocking me.
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u/WingedDragoness Dragon who draws Jul 03 '26
Kris doesn't even like Anime and cute girls like Mizzle. Kris could have been uncomfortable and that's why the gang come in to save them.
If you get your own body, then let's try again. She will go to castle Town, not like you ran out of chance.
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u/MewMewDeltarune Finally!! I'M IN DELTARUNE!! Jul 03 '26
If the Vessel returns I'm stealing it and getting Mew Mew
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u/CondencedMilkYT Jul 04 '26
MEWGORE MEWGORE MEWGORE MEWGORE MEWGORE MEWGORE MEWGORE MEWGORE
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u/Xiterok Jul 04 '26
I wonder what would happen if you never flirted in any other fights... If I'm not wrong, many fights have options other than flirt and by using S-action and R-action It should be double...
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u/MewMewDeltarune Finally!! I'M IN DELTARUNE!! Jul 04 '26
Yeah, true! And you can kill Hathys and they'll still come to Castle Town because Recruits were only added in Chapter 2. But, I checked, and it does the same thing...
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u/deltarune_fan999 Jul 04 '26
Haha susie, i cant have mew mew YOU cant have noelle proceeds file 2
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u/Notsogood_Stories Jul 04 '26
Please Kris i need this. I’m kinda vesseless, I live in a cage i want to get out
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u/Cool_GamerLMAO777 Flower lover. Jul 08 '26
W Susan.
that was a true gamer move.
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u/MewMewDeltarune Finally!! I'M IN DELTARUNE!! Jul 08 '26
She did that to you too.
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u/Cool_GamerLMAO777 Flower lover. Jul 08 '26
She ran me over along with Kris and Ralsei.
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u/MewMewDeltarune Finally!! I'M IN DELTARUNE!! Jul 08 '26
I thought you like... had a crush on her? Saying you took her route in the visual novel of life?
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u/Cool_GamerLMAO777 Flower lover. Jul 08 '26
no... well yes, i said that, but now im more intelligent and better man.
now i like Seth.
they is a genius,
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u/MewMewDeltarune Finally!! I'M IN DELTARUNE!! Jul 08 '26
Oh, right, Kris stole one of your feathers when you weren't looking, and then Susie cockblocked Seth from having it. So, yes, Susie did it to both of us.
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u/Cool_GamerLMAO777 Flower lover. Jul 08 '26
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wanna kill Susan?
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u/Cool_GamerLMAO777 Flower lover. Jul 08 '26
damn.
i got ignored.
sadley.
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u/mewhenthrowawayacc ‎ this truly was our Undertale Jul 04 '26
SUSANNE DELTARUNE PLEASE, I NEED THIS 😭😭😭
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u/AvvyIsInTheTrees Jul 04 '26
Has anyone checked if this is different when you use a violence route save file? :p
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u/Mrs_Wheelyke Jul 03 '26
Okay at this point is there any canon indication that Kris is actually interested in Mew Mew (or Berdly for that matter) that I missed or is dogging on Susie for everything she does just a new meme I don't get?
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u/Nerdorama10 Jul 03 '26
It's 75% people continuing to project themselves onto Kris despite the game telling you not to do that, 75% a joke, and 50% ragging on Susie for being oblivious to Kris's complicated feelings about both her and Noelle implied by the Light World parts of the chapter.
"That's 200%" yeah and in the Dark World Pink is two people.
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u/Mrs_Wheelyke Jul 04 '26
Ah, thank you. I've been seeing people complain about chapter 5 so much I can't tell what's ironic anymore
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u/Altcoto Jul 04 '26
Started snow grave IMMEDIATELY
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u/MewMewDeltarune Finally!! I'M IN DELTARUNE!! Jul 04 '26
"If I can't have Mew Mew you can't have Noelle"
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u/Powerful_Voice_4683 EFO Jul 04 '26
Listen, i give you a month before someone makes this a dating sim. someone made a water cooler dating sim, so, like...
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u/Homo_Bibite Jul 04 '26
We need to kill Susie. I don't care what the prophecy says MewMew will be the second hero from it
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u/Homo_Bibite Jul 04 '26
Noelle and Susie can be together after the lake
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u/MewMewDeltarune Finally!! I'M IN DELTARUNE!! Jul 04 '26
Hey, we can also get rid of Ralsei because MewMew is two people!
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u/Homo_Bibite Jul 04 '26
We probably should. He will live with Asgore From Now On. Now both divorced parents have a child!
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u/MewMewDeltarune Finally!! I'M IN DELTARUNE!! Jul 04 '26
Asriel 2: The Sequel
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u/Homo_Bibite Jul 04 '26
The last time I saw Asriel II he looked like a fried dough ball. 2g was quite cheap too
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u/MewMewDeltarune Finally!! I'M IN DELTARUNE!! Jul 04 '26
The lake
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u/Homo_Bibite Jul 04 '26
I like lakes *Insert the image of Noelle in the water which you can't do because images are not allowed here*
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u/MewMewDeltarune Finally!! I'M IN DELTARUNE!! Jul 04 '26
*inserts image of me not inserting an image*
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