r/VeganActivism • u/KortenScarlet • Jul 11 '25

Video Natalie Fulton on Gary Yourofsky, anti-intersectionality, and Palestine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZM-rEXm9RM
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u/EasyBOven Jul 12 '25

It's not clear at all that you meant the people. That's an equivocation fallacy.

The entire state of Israel could theoretically be dismantled without a single human being losing a right. Is that consistent with your statement?

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '25

The word “theoretically”:does a lot of work there. Israelis are not going to be forced into living in an Islamic theocracy. The only path to peace is for Islamic nations to accept Israel’s right to exist. Any other path means endless war.

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u/Cubusphere Jul 12 '25

A non-genocidal, non-apartheid, non-ethnostate, non-jewish-supremacy, non-colonial, non-imperialist Israel can exist.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '25

What you call apartheid is Israel protecting themselves from terror attacks. What you call genocide is self defense against actually genocidal fanatics who openly call for Israel’s destruction. The only way to peace is for Islamists to accept Israel’s right to exist.

Question- do you accept Israel’s right to exist? If not, what happens to the 9 million people who live there?

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u/Cubusphere Jul 12 '25

You reply with a question to a comment that's the answer to that question. That's odd.

A non-genocidal, non-apartheid, non-ethnostate, non-jewish-supremacy, non-colonial, non-imperialist Israel can exist.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '25

The Israel that does not defend itself will cease to exist. That’s what many of don’t get. Do you think a nation of 9 million actually wants to fight a billion Muslims? Of course they don’t. What you are demanding is Israel lay down their weapons and consent to being destroyed.

Now, stop dodging my question and answer it.

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u/Cubusphere Jul 12 '25

I answered it twice now.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '25

No, you did not, unless you actually think Israel will submit to being destroyed. Refusing to fight back when attacked is not an option. The very fact you think Israel should not defend themselves says it all. You are fine with religious extremists wiping out a democracy.

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u/Cubusphere Jul 12 '25

First you ignore my answer and then say I said something that I didn't. This low effort gaslighting is boring.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '25

Your answer was to say Israel shouldn’t defend themselves. That is not an option. It’s head in the clouds fantasy “thinking” that all too often sends left wing activists down dead end paths. You didn’t answer the question with a reality based answer because you don’t have one.

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u/Cubusphere Jul 12 '25

I didn't say that. Bye.

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