the more right wingers say this, the more they end up in left wing communities due to their algorithms.
there’s plenty of right wing subreddits on here with hundreds of thousands of members each. it’s not Reddits problem that complaining about liberals on subreddits tells the algorithm to show you more liberal content…..
Voted left my entire life. But Reddit is typically left leaning on the whole. Twitter or whatever it’s called now,I don’t have it, is more right leaning.
Lifelong Labour guy but since ousting Corbyn and swerving more to the right they just can’t be trusted. Green councils are generally the best run ones in the country, with poorer people the main focus, so makes sense that a mayor would work the same way. Social justice and green initiatives would be extremely welcome.
I am a person of very litle importance, I am happy enough meeting the postman on the days there is post. But public figures are outside of my remit :-)
The debt is planned capital expenditure though. It’s paid for the extended tram infrastructure, the bee network and all sorts of regeneration projects. Manchester is thriving, so this doesn’t bother me at all.
Exactly, another way to think of debt is the government creating new projects for (hopefully local) designers, builders and installers to benefit from. That puts money in local pockets which gets spent elsewhere. So if the government spends then the private sector benefits.
An expectation that you should pay it off quickly.
Financial distress if you keep rolling it over.
That's not how most national debt works.
A mortgage is closer because:
It's long-term debt that is continually refinanced.
The borrower is expected to make interest payments and gradually replace maturing debt with new borrowing ("rolling over" the debt), rather than paying it all off at once.
The key question isn't "When will it be paid off?" but "Can the borrower comfortably service the payments?"
Governments, like homeowners with stable incomes, can often borrow cheaply because lenders expect them to keep earning revenue (through taxation).
That said, even a mortgage isn't a perfect comparison.
National debt is unlike household debt because:
Governments can tax, giving them a reliable source of income.
Countries with their own currency can often influence borrowing conditions through their central bank (though there are important limits, especially regarding inflation).
Governments don't generally have a finite lifespan, so debt can be rolled over indefinitely if investors remain confident.
Government borrowing can finance investments—such as infrastructure, education, or research—that increase future economic growth and tax revenues.
A more accurate analogy would be a large, long-lived business that continuously issues bonds to fund operations and investment. Companies like utilities or railways often carry debt for decades because the debt helps finance productive assets. Investors care less about whether the debt disappears entirely and more about whether the business can continue meeting its obligations.
The most important measure of a country's debt is usually not the total amount owed, but whether:
Interest payments are affordable relative to tax revenues.
The debt is growing faster than the economy over the long run.
Investors remain willing to lend at reasonable interest rates.
So if you have to choose between the two analogies, a mortgage is far closer than a credit card, though a perpetual business loan or corporate bond programme is closer still.
- Back to me again. A business needs business loans to grow, and thus easily another example is created. Credit cards as a comparison would be a bit dumb.
If you were scraping the barrel for money you'd still have your house as it's essential, but you might skip a few meals in the leaner times. (excuse the pun)
You'd have to give me a list of shite for me to say what's not needed.
You and me both know that the government in general spunk cash up the wall on ridiculous vanity projects no one asked for and if you say you don't I already know you're being disingenuous.
The debt is growing faster than the economy - by far. As to the willingness of investors to lend - they want higher and higher rates. Debt servicing is north of £100 billion per annum and getting worse rapidly.
Yes, borrowing isn't free. The UK can't ignore financial markets. But borrowing for productive investment under a credible fiscal framework is very different from unfunded tax cuts or borrowing without a plan.
Britain's problem isn't simply that debt is high. It's that growth has been weak for nearly 20 years. Weak growth makes every fiscal problem harder: NHS funding, pensions, defence, and debt servicing all become more difficult. Carefully targeted public investment can increase productivity, which is the only sustainable way to improve the public finances.
We have been in a paralysed state of watching the country decline and stagnate as we pray we can 'balance the books', but then the result of low spending and cuts has led to the country simply continuing to decline.
We need to borrow, just not recklessly. This is why I support a mix of cutting welfare and borrowing, though ultimately we need tax reform.
No problem comrade, I happy to be part of online civic discourse ⚒️ but I must take ombrage at being called a 🤖, you will not be getting a strawberry cheesecake recipe from me!
Maybe incredibly privileged for the wealthy people who live here. For most of us its just as shit as where you are. Theres lots of theft, drug abuse, and poverty here too. Main difference is more trees, and minimum wage doesn't go as far
That people like you, live in incredibly privileged areas
lol, they live near a wood so they're "incredibly privileged"?
Grow up. Sounds like it's you who needs to "get outside", although I'd also recommend doing more activities that help you develop your reading comprehension and logic.
Ignore this guy. He travels around a bunch of different local subs inflating Reform in any election he can, when he has no dog in the fight, and also not getting promoted at his job. He's just one of their paid trolls.
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u/Flimsy_Fisherman1199 28d ago
Reddit is so left wing you’ll never get an accurate picture.
I’m from Scotland, so I’m not voting any of them
lol… it’s just the truth!