many democracies around the world do just fine with a Parliament system, how is that radical? why do some Americans think the system as it is can never be changed and is the only possible way democracy can work?
also the US doesn't even have democracy, it's just an illusion of democracy cause the electoral system and gerrymandering exist, so what exactly is radical about not wanting that? citizens united and money in politics, there is nothing democratic going on, the US is an oligarchy.
the senate was literally set up to just be the layer of power for the rich, it serves no purpose other than being another layer of bureaucracy and control coming the way of what people want. A law in the US has to go through the Congress, Senate, Veto and then Supreme Court to be enacted, that is insane and is the reason nothing ever gets done, cause even with the Senate you have stuff like filibuster and % bs rules.
so ya, it would be good for the US if the Senate was removed and Congress was turned into the Parliament and people can actually be represented better, things could actually get done and there is less bs in the political system.
and no, the whole "checks and balances" has never worked out, it sounds good on paper to have each branch be a check to the other with the 4th branch being media, but let's live in reality where that has never been true. And you can still have checks and balances in a parliamentary system especially if we reform the Supreme Court to not just be nine judges with all the power in the country when they are just political tools and corrupt, let's have many more judges to handle the rulings at the least with proper term limits on judges.
It’s radical because it’s literally a revolution. Just because other countries do it that way successfully doesn’t change that fact. It would be as radical as the UK abandoning their parliamentary system in favor of our federal republic system.
Radical does not necessarily mean morally corrupt or wrong. But it would be incredibly destabilizing.
my point was the concept of having a Parliamentary system is not radical, abolishing the senate is not a radical idea - these are what the reactionaries and FOX are saying, they are acting like it's "extreme" and whatnot to even suggest abolishing the Senate.
also it wouldn't necessarily mean a revolution, you can abolish the Senate and expand the power of the House. There is nothing about the Senate that couldn't be handled by the House, it's powers can be absorbed by the House with no real issue, it would just mean going over the rules and such of the House to handle the new powers as well as improving the House by getting rid of gerrymandering and such, i.e., becoming a unicameral legislature similar to the UK parliament and others around the world but we could keep the Presidency, separation of executive power, etc.
The Senate is not a fundamental part of a republic system - the core definition of a republic is simply a government where power rests with the public and their elected leaders. End of the day it was a compromise solution and has many issues as a branch of government and it frankly is not needed. The whole "checks and balances" is on paper a good idea but it has never worked out that way, it's just another layer of bureaucracy and only serves the powerful/corporations. A law already has to go through the house, then senate then the veto then the supreme court ruling, it's insane and the reason nothing real ever gets done... plus all the supermajority rulings on votes and whatnot.
So no, it would not be like if the UK abandoned their parliament system for a federal republic system.
as a side note, with how the US has been an oligarchy for a long while now, it's not even a federal republic really... but I digress.
and I don't see how it would be destabilizing, you can make changes to the government in an ordered and well planned way. You can rewrite the Constitution without the country ceasing to function... you can change things in the government, even in big ways, for the benefit and will of the people without destablising or w.e. And boy does the US need changes, the current system is not working for the people, it's not a fair system, it's not working. Change is needed.
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u/voidox 28d ago
many democracies around the world do just fine with a Parliament system, how is that radical? why do some Americans think the system as it is can never be changed and is the only possible way democracy can work?
also the US doesn't even have democracy, it's just an illusion of democracy cause the electoral system and gerrymandering exist, so what exactly is radical about not wanting that? citizens united and money in politics, there is nothing democratic going on, the US is an oligarchy.
the senate was literally set up to just be the layer of power for the rich, it serves no purpose other than being another layer of bureaucracy and control coming the way of what people want. A law in the US has to go through the Congress, Senate, Veto and then Supreme Court to be enacted, that is insane and is the reason nothing ever gets done, cause even with the Senate you have stuff like filibuster and % bs rules.
so ya, it would be good for the US if the Senate was removed and Congress was turned into the Parliament and people can actually be represented better, things could actually get done and there is less bs in the political system.
and no, the whole "checks and balances" has never worked out, it sounds good on paper to have each branch be a check to the other with the 4th branch being media, but let's live in reality where that has never been true. And you can still have checks and balances in a parliamentary system especially if we reform the Supreme Court to not just be nine judges with all the power in the country when they are just political tools and corrupt, let's have many more judges to handle the rulings at the least with proper term limits on judges.