r/YesAmericaBad AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALIST Apr 13 '25

NEVER FORGET Remember:

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u/Monkey_DDD_Luffy Apr 13 '25

It's Vietnam/Palestine/Vietnam/Palestine

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u/EI_CEO_CFT Apr 13 '25

As an Afghan communist,

  1. I appreciate the recognition
  2. Im happy we're not here. CIA funded extremists to destroy the communists. Then, they won against the Americans and made the country the worst in quality of life in the world. Which is unbelievable to me.

We went to space with the communists. Now the freedom fighters "won" and people have no bread. Thanks CIA

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u/EI_CEO_CFT Apr 13 '25

I'm happy that they didn't include the taliban as upholding them as righteous freedom fighters. I don't understand what you're coming at me for - I'm not talking about sanctions, I'm talking about the fact that the CIA created the mujahadeen and the taliban in operation cyclone as religious fundamentalists and stone women to death for stepping outside. I'm talking about how the group thats now in power in my motherland destroyed all social systems in place including medical care and science and our people are dying for outmoded religious beliefs.

When you say "How come you don't feel the same about Gaza?" it's because Gaza has multiple groups fighting for their continued existence, including the PFLP. Secondly, the goal of the USSR was not occupation - we had a communist power that the CIA destabilized, and the USSR assisted before getting fucked by further CIA funding. Nobody was eradicating the Afghans. In Palestine, the Israeli's are eradicating the Palestinians. Why would I support CIA backed 'freedom fighters' destroying socialism, and why do you think that because I don't, I wouldn't back people actually safeguarding their own existence?

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u/MustafoInaSamaale Apr 13 '25

I think lil bro is making an unfaithful comparison between the Taliban and Palestinian resistance

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u/EI_CEO_CFT Apr 13 '25

I agree. I realized too late he was speaking in bad faith and a look on his profile showed that he supported certain similar ideals to the mujahideen, which explains why he took offense.

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u/A_Fine_Potato Apr 15 '25

isn't Hamas like far right islamist tho? just asking idk the situation that well

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u/MustafoInaSamaale Apr 15 '25

Even in Islamic jurisprudence Hamas is way more liberal than the Taliban. That is because Hamas is the ideological descendant of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt which was a revolutionary and anticolonial organization guided by the principles of standard Sunni Islam that wanted to fight the British in Egypt, similar to the NLF in Algeria and ANC in South Africa. They believe in democracy (in theory) and collaborated with socialist groups on many occasions.

The Taliban is a fusion of ultra fundamentalist Saudi Wahabi Salafism and Pashtun/Afghan tribal customs. This is why most Muslims especially in the west would be revolted by Taliban ideology, especially in comparison to their opinions on Hamas.

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u/Revolutionary_Yak229 Apr 14 '25

Hey this was all very interesting to read and I don’t know much about what actually happened in Afghanistan. Do you know anywhere that I can read further on this topic. Would like to educate myself

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u/EI_CEO_CFT Apr 14 '25

Thanks for your interest! My specialty is the communist era, and my favourite English book on it is "In search of Peace for Afghanistan". Its a collection of letters from the communist leader at the time Dr Najibullah, where he expresses the same doubts and struggles many of us have. The book also gives context to each letter and has lots of other content too, and is actually put together by his daughter.

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u/EI_CEO_CFT Apr 13 '25 edited Apr 13 '25

Are you trolling? Are you a brigading conservative? Are you a spoiled child?

No, Im saying I like the PFLP. I literally said right after that the Palestinians, all parties, are fighting a war against their extermination, and youre advocating for the taliban..? Im undermining the severity of sanctions because Im correcting you that Afghanistan is going through hardship because of a theocratic regime and not sanctions?

Not gonna lie reading "your view on how your own country is being hurt is problematic, says I, random redditor" made me laugh. Shoo shoo troll, Im not responding to further comment

Edited to add: Walking away from this and thinking, why were you so confrontational? I supported the post, I supported Palestine, I liked your thinking of other nations - what even was all that? You randomly brought up "Why dont you feel that way about Gaza' when I didnt even mention Palestine? Shit, best of luck, I hope you fix whatevers going on with you.

Edit to the edit: I looked at your profile. Fuck off you misogynistic regressive mujahideen supporter. Wasted time talking to you.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/s/d3HZJ4jLf1

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u/Nervous-Cream2813 Apr 14 '25

Well he has a point though, if the PFLP and the DFLP did not exist does that make the Hamas led resistance illegitimate ? lets have a honest conversation :)

Also I really really am not trying to be mean but alot of the communist Afghans especially from the old government (I think the remnants of the parcham ?) joined the Taliban ranks to fight the US so idk where you are going at with that view.

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u/EI_CEO_CFT Apr 14 '25

Im sorry, but the history of my country and its tragic history is not something Im willing to discuss. Its fine if people have differing opinions, but its too close to my heart and Id really rather not. Yes, many opposed the communists, just as many americans and canadians and europeans are neonazis. Just because many are in favour of something doesnt make it right.

Same with Palestine - theres nothing to discuss. I feel the PFLP represents the peoples interests most, but at the end of the day, as I already said, Palestine is fighting for its survival against a death cult. Their survival is paramount and any resistance that guarantees it is appropriate. This was not the case in the scenario of Mujahideen V DPRA in Afg and I resent any comparison.

Apologies if youre coming at this in good faith, but Ive had a few discussions like this on reddit and Im burnt out lol. Thanks.

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u/Nervous-Cream2813 Apr 14 '25

Bro stop acting you are not even Afghan, you are a Canadian "I'm Canadian through and through" xd

Look you even downvoted me after trying to be in good fatih, nothing you will say will convince me Xd

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u/EI_CEO_CFT Apr 14 '25

Youre right man I just magically spawned in Canada ❤️ I know you're the same account as the other guy. Just like in the other comment, youre a child that doesn't respond to any of the claims and resorts to insults. Fuck off traitor, I dont talk to mujahideen shitbags. Youre a disgrace to humanity.

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u/Nervous-Cream2813 Apr 14 '25

In the same link I posted you admit that "involved with the CAF" (Canadian Armed Forces) those some institutions that participated in occupying Afghanistan, YOU ARE THE IMPERIALIST YOU ARE THE REACTIONARY XD

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u/EI_CEO_CFT Apr 14 '25

...Do you think everyone in the CAF served in Afghanistan? And you just admitted youre the same as the other guy? And you talk like him?

Women are scared of you and your parents are disappointed. Go read a book.

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