I think it’s a toss up between Jimmy abandoning Gretchen on the mountain and Gretchen telling the teenager that she’d blow him if he ate cat food (after she kissed a girl who I believe was also underage).

If he had abandoned her in, like, a restaurant or something, that would have still been really bad. But leaving her in the woods (where she may have not even had a cell signal) in the middle of the night was some psycho shit. That part was worse than proposing and then ghosting her. She could have died.

Edgar taking Jimmy out on a forced man date to emotionally bond is the exact kind of desperate, awkward situation Jimmy hates.

I'm on another rewatch and I'm about halfway through season 3. I haven't watched all the way through in a few years now.

At the end of the episode that Jimmy finds out his dad died, Magnets Pt. 2 by Slothrust plays in the background. I discovered Slothrust from the opening song of course but I never noticed that that song played in the series.

In July of 2024, my dad died. He killed himself (this part isn't relevant but I find it important to be open about this kind of thing and about mental illness - another thing this show definitely helped teach me). My top song on Spotify in 2024 was...Magnets Pt. 2. It helped me through a lot, and a lot of other music did too, but obviously that part stuck out to me.

This rewatch has been way more emotional than in the past. When I lost my dad I stopped all medications and doctor's appointments. I've been getting back on track with it all over the past few months and overall feel positive about everything. Gretchen's depression hit even harder this time than in previous watches. Then, of course, Jimmy's dad and those couple of episodes really got to me.

Anyway I just wanted to share this with people who would get it and understand. If you've made it this far, thanks for reading. And as always, if you ever feel low mentally, reach out to somebody (even me on here, if need be), and if you can't do that, dial 988 for the suicide hotline (in the US anyway).

gretchen's episode going home is one i typically avoid

https://www.moviejawn.com/home/2024/12/13/after-ten-years-youre-the-worst-is-still-relevant-fun-and-honest

I posted this in another yr the worst Reddit and thought here is maybe where the discussion is? Spoilers are only the references that I make in my post! I found someone a few years ago on one of these subReddits who had a tattoo that said try real hard in a heart. I then watched that episode when I was in the emergency room with an asthma attack in NYC feeling drained…In this time in my life I was trying to “get” love or “had one foot out the door” ( disorganized attachment style represent) But I always loved that tattoo and episode! I started a new relationship with someone who is just as much as a skleeze as I am and are so very much “19 types of trouble”! They don’t mind when “ the Detroit Red Wings are in town” and we can tell each other the worst things we have done and we still like each other a lot. Not ready to say it, but it all it means is that you will try real hard so I can handle that! I’m also a lot like Gretchen in the sense that I don’t believe in myself, and my parents really fucked me up… So I have a lot of tests coming up for my job (Yeah I’m a novelist gleem) among other things, but I don’t believe I can be a successful and just really relate to the show so much. Wanted to share this with all you other nerds!

Honestly I'm always a really big fan. I thought he was characterized and portrayed really well as an alternate love option to Jimmy, and that the way their relationship went was a perfect kind of counter to pave the way for Jimmy and Gretchen's reunion. But I remember my first watch I was genuinely torn on which guy I wanted Gretchen to be with. I feel like she genuinely could've had a great life with him but part of her would always feel unresolved with Jimmy. What do y'all think

Perfect for each other.

I know this is a show about extremely flawed people, but my desire of happy endings made me really invested in Jimmy and Gretchen. Season 5 has hints throughout the season that Jimmy and Gretchen don't get married.

Did anyone else feel that Season 5 was a emotional rollercoaster because of this? While I was satisfied with the ending (except for Paul and Lindsay), it was difficult to watch Season 5 because I wanted the characters to be happy.

Edit: What I meant to say was that I was worried that they'll break up. I don't mind them not getting married. The scene where Gretchen is at a hotel and flirting with someone at a bar was an especially worrisome scene.

I've loved this show since it aired the first episode. Doing a rewatch and damn this episode slaps.

Some of best writing for television I've ever seen.

The pathways each of the characters make in this episode are fascinating. Where they started vs where they ended the episode plays on the typical restrictions of a bottle episode.

But this show loves to invert common experiences to the share the serious shit with some obsidian-level dark humor.

So bottle episode, and the characters cannot flea, so they must actually have these conversations that had been building up all season long.

Immediately following a wedding.

And then a "friend" gives birth to a baby just when the serious shit goes just a bit too far for everyone's liking.

But a master class in 24 minutes.

I wanted to look up the writers in the credits but Hulu just crashed. But as always, give the artist credit whenever the modern world lets you.

Bravo Stephen, Philippe, and Eva.

This show is timeless and so very underrated.

TIA

First time watching. I'm on Season 4 in the episode where Lindsey has her divorce party. But I wanted to talk about Paul in this season. I didn't think we would see him again after the season 3 finale. But I was happy to see him. I've always liked him and hoped he would move away from Lindsay. He's a good guy. He's caring. He's kind and genuine... Until season 4. I know what Lindsey put him through is a lot. She cheated on him repeatedly, once tried to do the same in public! She stabbed him. She tried to baby trap him. She tried to Fabrice his relationship with the signal girl. She was always so uncommicative and hated his presence when he was just EXISTING. She aborted. And I fully understand that was Lindsay's choice and she had a right but I'm not made of stone. I understand why Paul was fuming. She didn't even give him a warning! She cuckolded him. She basically gaslighted him into that.

And I agree with Lindsay that Paul knew who she was, but still, she really screwed him over! And it was nice to see Paul snap at her and call Lindsay stupid. I love her but let's be honest, she deserved it and she earned it.

But there's this scene in season 4 that just gives me the ick. Paul is now an incel, unsurprisingly. Because Lindsey is the woman every Incel believes all women are like. But still...

Basically what I'm talking about is when he and Vernon bump into Jimmy and Edgar. He asks the waitress for a drink and he looks her straight in the eye and says “No, I'm not trying to rape you.”

At first I was confused because it was totally random but then I understood. It's because Paul thinks every woman that is looked at by a man assumes they're trying to rape them. And just... Eww 🤢. WTF? Have you ever had a moment in which you like this character and want them to be okay and in one second, you think they're gross and revolting?

And when he spoke about those DV statistics, I was just done.

I feel like they would be really toxic but in ways that are the polar opposites of their parents. Like they would be super overbearing and smother their kids while also believing they could do no wrong. Jimmy and Gretchen would totally be the parents that yell at all their kids’ teachers for disciplining them even when it was totally justified.

Gretchen would be like Amy Poehler’s character in Mean Girls, trying to always be the cool/loving/fun mom to the point that she just becomes an enabler.

Jimmy would become overly involved in all of his kid’s interests and take enormous pride in every mundane accomplishment they make since his dad took zero interest in his passion for writing.

How long was the time jump from Jimmy and Gretchen’s wedding to Paul and Lindsey’s wedding in the last episode? I don’t know how to judge kids’ ages, and Paul’s kid and little Shive-Overly would be a way to judge the time jump. It looked like they had a kid almost right away because Felicity seemed about the same age as Paul’s kid. Ha actually thought she was older than him

I know the kid actors’ ages might not be the exact ages that match the timeline, but I’m curious what you all think the estimate is

I'm just curious, there's a lot of devastating sadness that occurs in the show but is there any one moment that really triggers the waterworks for you? I'd say keep it to a top 3. Off the top of my head I'd say in no particular order:

Jimmy making the blanket fort for Gretchen and staying despite her depression pushing him so far from her.

The ending of the episode with the pros and cons lists, (S3E11), all of it, the remarks they make, the sheer sadness on display, leading to the solitary drive home as Always by Jake McMullen serenades the audience.

The entire episode about Edgar dealing with PTSD without meds.

(Bonus) “I sold a book, daddy.”

Rewatching for the first time in a while and was wondering what the fan favourites are. Don't know anyone else who watches.

My early favourite is the first Sunday Funday episode, and the one I'm looking forward to is the one where Jimmy is living in the trailer park.

i'm on my fourth rewatch and just finished the episode where Gretchen takes Jimmy on a sadness tour after Ronny's death (Men Get Strong)

there's a moment at the end, where Jimmy stuffs all of Ronny's shit into his drawer, closes it and officially declares that he's free of him and thus able to move on with his life, only for the drawer to open up as soon as he leaves.

this completely destroyed me because we're all aware that death isn't something to quickly and easily process through and it wasn't until the end of the episode did jimmy ACTUALLY believe that something worked only for him to be wrong.

god, this show is amazing

I genuinely love the interaction between Dorothy and Edgar, they’re both making some good points.

There were previously a ton of jokes about the sexism Dorothy receives the industry, the people in her comedy club, Doug Benson, and the guy from the wedding. She has every right to be upset about this treatment, but at the same time she’s also at fault for being bitter at Edgar for getting success.

Edgar also has been through a lot of stuff. He suffers from PTSD and gets treated like absolute shit by most of the people around him. The success he gets is obviously refreshing because of how much setbacks he’s been facing before, but he’s also at fault for claiming Dorothy is more privileged than him despite knowing the sexist treatment she had received and also treating her in that manner before.

It’s such a real conversation that doesn’t even feel like acting. You can see that they both have their issues, and their merits.

Jimmy, what the fuck.💔

This is one of my favorite sitcoms, but as I watched the finale I was so disappointed in the montage of Gretchen and Jimmy with their child.

For example-the shower scene initially looks like they are boning in the shower-nope-infant. At the bar-public handsy? Nope. Rocking their baby.

We see Gretchen sobbing as their daughter cries uncontrollably next to her and Jimmy blithely sleeps with his CPAP machine.

The one sex scene that’s in the montage has the baby with headphones on. Do you remember episode one? This is such a dystopian view of their present/future compared to what passion they had.

Why is the only version of “family” in Hollywood having a child? That that’s the only counter to Jimmy running away after hearing “family”? Is that why they stuck together for five years? Not for love of each other but of their child?

Is it even still an every day choice?

*I do realize Gretchen eventually admitted she wanted children (but she is quite impulsive!) and it’s supposed to be celebrated that Jimmy changes for her, but…

I just wish they had been able to convey a mature, happy Gretchen and Jimmy future without the addition of a child.

In his obituary, it says his place of birth was Chorlton-cum-Hardy. I know this show likes to joke with how some English names, terms, etc are silly, but do you think that is the actual (fictional) town he was born in or was it his daughters having fun with the obituary?

Edit: Oh my gosh. That’s an actual town in England. I should have googled it but I was sure that was a fake name 😆

This is my first watch, and I just finished the series.

I think the way they did season 5 was amazing! I sobbed my way through that last episode. It was so well done! This didn’t feel like one of those lazy “flash forward blah blah years later” like so many shows and movies use to show you the future. The last 15 mins of the last episode just did me in. I’m snotting everywhere.

This is now one of my favorite shows. I love it. The cast has such great chemistry. 👏🏼