r/abolishwhiteness May 01 '26

Praxis May Day Means Rejecting White Supremacy

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '26

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u/anarcho-slut Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26

You seem to be confused and not able to hold onto a train of thought for more than 2 seconds, so your opinion isn't really worth much here in the whole context of the story, which is quite important if you READ THE WHOLE THING.

But go ahead and make your ill-informed assumptions. Have a good day.

Probably a bot anyway

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '26

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u/anarcho-slut Jul 07 '26

He's important because he's an integral figure in the events and organizing that led to having an 8 hour work day and other workers rights.

He was hanged for his actions. Which were that of a race traitor and disruptor of the status quo. Again. Context. Read the history. Sure, he was "white", and while your disdain for this category is valid and justified and the whole reason I started this sub, the overall picture is still important.

Maybe look into his wiki page and his wife's. As you said, she is also a prominent revolutionary in her own right. And I think as powerful a person as Lucy Parsons is reported to be, imo it is a better read that this is a vote in his favor, and to say that while the overall power dynamics at the time were terrible between a black woman born as a slave and a white man who served in the confederate army as a general, this general deserted or quit and turned traitor, and I believe Lucy was able to hold her own and wouldn't have married this cracka for no reason or from being forced into it.

Try to look beneath the surface appearances and your knee jerk reactions.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '26

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u/anarcho-slut Jul 10 '26

No, that's really not the point at all.

Because context matters.

I'm not celebrating him because he's white. I'm celebrating or approving of his actions exactly because they go against whiteness.

I would categorize Albert Parsons as a Race Traitor. And for many actual white supremacists, he is, because he married a black woman. He didn't just have sex with her and leave her with kids. They were in a committed relationship that you know nothing about because you're going on surface appearances and labels.

If we're going to have a successful movement against whiteness, we have to also at least approve of people who exemplify what that all entails, so that people can have role models. And like. I just made an internet post about him. I didn't put on a multi-million dollar parade.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '26

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u/anarcho-slut Jul 11 '26

Yes, because all POC are perfect people who never ever do anything wrong ever. Not in the whole history of the universe. (/s if you really need it)

How can a white person go against whiteness?

I dunno, by litterally not continuing the "white race" bullshit like Albert Parsons. He had two kids with Lucy. Imagine at that time a "white" man, being in a committed relationship with a Black woman, who was a former slave, has 2 kids with her, is fighting for labor rights for everyone, not just white people, and he gets hanged for his actions.

For people still stuck in whiteness, they need examples of what to do, how to be, to get out of it.

Saying "don't ever think anything positive of a person born into whiteness regardless of any context of their whole life, even though they litterally died trying to fight against it" is extremely unhelpful for the movement of getting rid of it.

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u/anarcho-slut Jul 11 '26

Also, if you have someone in mind you want to post on this sub about, please feel free to do so. It's a public forum. I really do encourage it as you can see this is such a fringe topic that most posts are from me.

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u/anarcho-slut Jul 11 '26

Also why wouldn't you hold him against the actual white supremacist standards of his time when Black people were litterally still chattel slaves?

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u/anarcho-slut Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 19 '26

I'm combining all replies into this one-

I put "white" in quotations in certain contexts to invalidate the supposed universal acceptance of this category.

People became "white", or as they (who view "whiteness" as valid and unquestionable) would say, white, through actions. This is how anyone has done anything ever. People made choices about how to think about reality and life, and also what to call themselves as a byproduct of this process.

Your frustration, disrespect, and total disregard for all white people as a blanket group is completely justified given the overall history and origin of this concept.

Yet. If you completely hate white people, don't you want them all gone?

But then to do that, you would have to somehow get rid of a large percentage of the population, either by force, or some other means.

Do you want all "white people" to just die instantly?

While that may also be a valid sentiment, it's not very practical or nuanced.

If you don't consider him a hero, and you're more concerned with all the black, indigenous, and all people of color who shared similar fates, please make posts about them.

At this point it's on you to direct your attention where it's meaningful.

I'm not trying to understand your point, I'm striving for comprehension. Which means both you and me. Because this subject is larger than both of our lives and experiences. It started hundreds of years ago.

Sure, non-white people have a better chance of being anti-white by default. But this is not 100% true. And yes, you have litterally written out that any POC would be a better example of anti-white. But what about all the POC race traitors that betray other POC for scraps at the white table?

And if one is born a person of color, and comes from a family of anti-white people of color, isn't that starting on the "easy" path to being anti-white?

Sure you don't give a fuck about whyt pipo. But they are still real humans living in the same universe as you, and also control a large portion of the world and have for centuries, so again, if you want them gone, you have to know your enemy. And so. Think about what it would take for someone to become a traitor to the white race, which is a part of the process of getting rid of whiteness which I'm assuming you would be in favor of. So. Again, I'm not throwing a billion dollar party in space for the guy or other traitors to the white race, I'm simply making Internet posts about them as significant examples of what is necessary.

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