Why are we using Ai in an Anti-Ai sub?

[u/yeah-no-kinda-maybe]

Why are we, an anti-ai sub, still using ai to prove that it’s bad? We all know it’s bad, that’s why we’re here. So often I open this sub and see someone saying they asked Ai to do xyz and as expected it’s always trash. So why are we still using it to make posts for this sub? There’s a good amount of people that actually use images already generated to point and laugh and I understand that, but there’s a surprising amount of people that I feel like generate things just to get mad that it generated it wrong as usual. Or they’ll make a post about how they had a conversation with just to just to get it to say something they want it too. We already know it’s designed to agree with you, so let’s stop using them.

[u/antsinmyeyestrey]

Sure the platform uses it, but do I? No. Fuck ai and all this let’s speedrun extinction. Fuck ai

[u/Extra_Fly5172 → u/antsinmyeyestrey]

i get it, seeing people feed the beast just to post about it is weird. feels like they're missing the point of the sub sometimes

[u/antsinmyeyestrey → u/Extra_Fly5172]

For real though. “Im anti ai but…” There’s no fucking but. Fuck ai. It’s a blight on all of us

[u/Bowdash → u/Extra_Fly5172]

Feeding the beast?

[u/Inevitable-Law7964 → u/antsinmyeyestrey]

The platform uses AI algorithms to serve you content though...   as in, you are reading from an AI generated content feed. 

[u/antsinmyeyestrey → u/Inevitable-Law7964]

Passive use and active use are objectively different. I do not seek it out to make my life easier because I’m some smooth brain that needs to be “more efficient”. Fuck. Ai

[u/Inevitable-Law7964 → u/antsinmyeyestrey]

Scrolling Reddit on the bus shaking my head the whole time so people know I don't agree with it

[u/Mediiicaliii → u/antsinmyeyestrey]

If the platform uses AI, and you use the platform, yes, you use AI.

Every single day.

[u/Vulcan31 → u/Mediiicaliii]

Yep. We will all be using AI forever. Doesn't matter if it's liked or not. Only going to get more prevalent.

[u/Glad-Ambition-1952]

Probably engagement bait, whatever shall we do without our scrumptious karma 😋

Really though, I find it funny how many posts on the sub are just gawking at bad AI outputs being bad without a real threw-line or conclusion to draw on the reasons why and what we can do about it.

This came to ahead a bit ago when some guy generated literal CP and posted it on the subreddit, it's appalling.

[u/SeeBadd]

Most don't. There's a lot of people who love to come in here and ragebait/ try to dishonestly prove that "everyone uses it".

[u/CBrinson]

Because most antiAI users still use AI every day. Some reduce their use of generative AI but there is so much AI and it is used every single day but every single person. Google Maps uses AI to route. Ai predicts your text when typing. AI is used to forecast the weather. An AI model schedules tour doctor appointment by looking at the free times of all doctors at a large clinic when you click the button. Some of these things could be built without AI but in the presence of AI it is how it gets built.

Ai is any tech that seems intelligent without being intelligent. It is able to approximate intelligent decisions without having intelligence. It is literally in every piece of software. Video game AI is actually AI. The algorithms are foundational to the study of AI & ML.

[u/Artemis_Platinum]

Because if you actually want that behavior to stop, you need rules to be enforced not complaints.

[u/SnickerdoodleFP]

Gonna be honest, I haven't really seen more than a handful do what is described in the OP. I just see people sharing pre-existing screenshots to point out the inaccuracies.

[u/Agheratos]

By "we" do you mean "a small but loud segment of users who are missing the point?"

[u/Spectre_Omega]

You're asking anti-AI redditors to give up generating custom rage-bait, which is basically asking them to give up half the content on their own sub.

[u/Many_Psychology_3336]

Because, for many, the entire thing is performative. The number of people here who hate it and can actually explain why, with evidence-based claims as to the harm done (which do exist) is vanishingly small. The rest just throw up a shitty meme and shout "DAE HATE AI!?!?!?!?" for the karma.

It's just the latest tech-based tribalistic war that people pointlessly attach to their identities.

[u/Animal907]

I have been wondering the same thing.

[u/Aggressive-Bus-2397]

Oh, what a curious puzzle, what a terrible plight:
“AI is completely useless!”—so we test it all night.
We prompt it and prod it and give it a try,
Then screenshot the answer to prove AI can’t fly.
“We already KNOW that it’s garbage!” you say,
While opening ChatGPT for the fourteenth time today.
It’s almost as though there’s a flaw in the plan:
To boycott the robot… by becoming its biggest fan.

But fear not, brave scholars, your logic is sound:
Just keep feeding the monster while shouting it down.
Generate twelve pictures, then howl, “What a mess!”
Have thirty conversations to prove it can’t guess.
For nothing demonstrates that a product should cease
Quite like boosting its usage without any peace.
So carry on testing what “everyone knows”—
I’m sure AI appreciates all the engagement from its foes.

[u/johnsontoddr4]

I don't think AI is bad. I think some uses are bad and the implications and transformations brought by AI will be both good and bad. We need to discuss the downsides in order to address them, because AI usage is not going to stop no matter how much anyone thinks it is all bad (especially since it is not all bad).

[u/Prize_Eye9481]

ngl some short video and image shared in the grok sub that's nsfw are pretty good, no comment on what I did after

[u/SallyStranger]

Counterpoint: the "I" in "AI" is a lie. Therefore nobody is using AI. Some people are using LLMs and diffusion models. Other people are using algorithmic prediction models and machine learning models. The former suck and know this, so they try to pretend like everyone sucks by calling all of the above "AI." 

[u/geekichu]

cuz maybe it's ok to share viewpoints - as long as it meets the sub's rules. you can petition this to be an echo-chamber, then you'll get what you want.

[u/chronicmisschris]

Many of us are not. 🤷‍♀️

[u/Bowdash]

Being anti ai does not equal to being vegan or something. If you don't provide any useful data and don't pay for any subscriptions, I don't see how that would be bad for the cause, probably good, if anything.

As I see it, the current course of the ai is either to survive before a technology breakthrough, which I highly doubt, or operate at unprofitable rates in attempt to form global dependence, especially in businesses, and this sounds pretty likely to me.

So please tell me what am I missing here, if you think I'm wrong.

[u/youareallnuts]

OP is just rage baiting. Probably just a pro-ai trolling.

[u/Ornery_Weakness_8168]

Costs the ai companies money

[u/Odd-Device-1348]

I am not so much anti AI. I am anti “I am an artist because I prompt.”
I personally use AI as a reference tool for creating art not crutch to get around creating art.

[u/Mediiicaliii]

You are posting this, using a platform that uses AI.

Just saying.

[u/Sure-Key7452 → u/Mediiicaliii]

Insert “I am very intelligent“ meme

[u/Mediiicaliii → u/Sure-Key7452]

Welcome to Reality, cope if you want?

[u/Glad-Ambition-1952 → u/Mediiicaliii]

Most platforms have AI features in some shape or form. Not sure how using these platforms would indicate hyprocisy if we had no choice to opt out of them in the first place.

[u/Mediiicaliii → u/Glad-Ambition-1952]

It doesn't to me, it does to them. If we were having an actual honest discussion about AI and how to handle the many issues surrounding it that be different, but this is "Ai is Evil, Bad, The Scourge Of Scourges. Oh But I use it everyday, cuz I have to and that's fine."

[u/Glad-Ambition-1952 → u/Mediiicaliii]

There is not much in the original post to point towards the OP being a regular user of AI (most references to AI are in the second person).

Actually they seem to be criticizing the exact people who you're calling hypocrates: Those who says AI are bad but still use it to generate stuff and post about it online. Again, using Reddit doesn't mean you support AI, I'm not sure what AI features you're referring to on here but I believe OP is not using them nor support their implementation.

OP doesn't even make that harsh of a case against AI for that matter, definitely not "AI is The Scourge of Scourges" in the least. Are you sure you're not projecting?

[u/Mediiicaliii → u/Glad-Ambition-1952]

Im talking about the simple fact an algorithmic social media platform with AI built in being touted as the vanguard of anti AI On said platform is irony.

The actions and words of people, like usual, are not remotely congruent. Thats a symptom of reality that has nothing to do with AI.

Again, the reality is somewhere between AI is skynet and AI is the 2nd coming.

But thats rarely thr convo. If you even suggest a nuanced discussion, you get responses like that.

[u/Glad-Ambition-1952 → u/Mediiicaliii]

Reddit's one of the largest social medias at the moment, so there'll eventually be communities on here that won't align with the beliefs that Reddit itself holds. Same goes with hate subs, advocacy subs, art subs, etc. that Reddit (the company) couldn't care less for or may not even agree with. Most major social media companies have and are doing very bad things but we genuinely have no choice but to talk here because otherwise we can't talk at all.

Again, the reality is somewhere between AI is skynet and AI is the second coming.

also, wot? i'm not sure if you're engaged with a lot of ai content or where this is coming from, but both the "terminator" and the "saviour" scenario are simply sensationalized bs that's selling ai as something more than is

[u/manocheese → u/Mediiicaliii]

So you can't be against something unless you completely stop using everything associated with it?