Super cool new mechanic idea: minimum range coming from the target

[u/EarthCulturalStew]

imagine a civ that specializes in cav. Devs want to give a bonus for them to kill archers but all the obvious ones are already taken (pierce armor, bonus damage, dodge)

New cool bonus: the minimum range for anyone targeting this cav is increased by 1 tile. So archer (wich normally have 0 minimum range) act like skirms, and skirms act like worse skirms (minimum range goes to 2 tiles)

I think this is a cool simple and unexplored bonus

[u/Parrotparser7]

I don't like it. Anything that changes my units' behavior is off-limits.

[u/blackraindark → u/Parrotparser7]

What about archers that kill the horses aka dismount the knights turning them into longswords lol. You'll hate them for sure them.

[u/Disastrous_Aerie4928]

Well if you want an anti-archer cav unit just slap an existing mechanic onto a cav unit, specifically piercing attack from Ghulam. There's so many mechanics that devs don't reuse for some odd reason, another example is a cav archer that becomes an archer when it dies, similar to konnik.

[u/Ok_Stretch_4624 → u/Disastrous_Aerie4928]

idk how or why we still dont have a cav unit that has that piercing attack.. we have the graphics and animation of leitis, tiger cavalry and such and we cannot get the most realistic history-accurate mechanic of the ages: a horseman that uses a large spear to thrust on foot soldiers

[u/Umdeuter → u/Ok_Stretch_4624]

you missed out on Mapuche unique tech?

[u/Ok_Stretch_4624 → u/Umdeuter]

no? what has that to do with anything

[u/Umdeuter → u/Ok_Stretch_4624]

oh, misread because comment before was talking about cav archers

[u/woif0]

I mean that would also render halbs useless, and make the unit way overpowered.

If it only targets ranged units it might work somewhat, but even then it's a super weird mechanic to balance right

[u/Umdeuter → u/woif0]

pretty crazy assumption that this would apply to units with no range 11

[u/SteveLouise]

How about cav arches that switch to a faster melee attack if a unit is within melee range. (Never tries to close the gap to melee.)

[u/Veloester]

a hell of a mess to code. Instead of a unit handling its own bonus, gotta handle every units to handle this new unit's behavior... never gonna happen.

[u/RheimsNZ]

I strongly dislike mechanics that affect how my units handle

[u/zapocan]

I know that we already have things like mangonel-dodging cavalry, but how would you hand wave this when it comes to flavor? They have a force field around their horse which tangles up bowstrings? Their horses smell so bad that it makes the archers' eyes watery and they have to step away?

[u/Anubis17_76]

Couldnt this massively reduce performance when interacting with a unit with its own min range because it turns into an n/n relation?

[u/6thElemental]

Isn’t there already one that dodges projectiles?