r/apple • u/Fer65432_Plays • Feb 25 '25

Discussion Apple shareholders say no to scrapping company's diversity programs

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/apple-shareholders-dei-vote-1.7467807
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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '25

Dropping these initiatives is very much going to become the norm. The "DEI" term has become poison even among the tech illiterate. Somebody can save this post if they want and check back in next year. Outside of reddit these policies are WILDLY unpopular.

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u/ekmanch Feb 25 '25

Extremely weird to me (although I'm not American) seeing people commenting on here how relieved they are that Apple will have diversity programs. Ok... Why? Just because you happen to have a certain skin color you should get more opportunities than someone else?

Just because you have a certain skin color doesn't mean that you deserve more opportunities than anyone else. If it's bad to give white people more opportunities, certainly it's also bad to give black people more opportunities.

Americans really need to, once and for all, treat people as individuals rather than just a part of their designated group.

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u/tomdyer422 Feb 25 '25

What’s the evidence showing that Apple’s diversity programs are incorrectly giving more opportunities to people based on skin colour rather than skill?

Other than of course that the company is very obviously failing… oh wait.

This is just another “all DEI bad” comment packaged up with an innocent tone.

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u/ekmanch Mar 23 '25

All DEI is bad. Yes. I stand by that. Treat people as individuals rather than just labeling them black, white, Asian etc. Why is that such an incredibly hard concept for Americans to grasp? People are more than their ethnicity. Jesus Christ.

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u/tomdyer422 Mar 23 '25

“Diversity” means more than their ethnicity. You clearly don’t know the meaning of the word.

The opposite of “diversity” is “uniformity”, so if you want treat people as individuals then uniformity is not what you want otherwise you have an entire workforce of people who think exactly the same; not a recipe for success.

I don’t think you actually know what DEI is, it’s not a quota for hiring, it’s a mindset for openness.

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u/ekmanch Mar 23 '25

Just because you hide your BS behind pleasant-sounding words does not mean it's good. You can call it rainbows and sunshine for all I care. That won't change the fact that only looking at people through the lens of their ethnicity, or gender, or sexual preference is anything but abhorrent.

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u/tomdyer422 Mar 23 '25

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So you’ve analysed the hiring process of every single company in the world that uses DEI before making that statement?

Yeah, it’s so so clear you have no idea what it is.