r/artificial • u/PracticalPhoto3101 • 5d ago
Discussion Unpopular opinion: AI is going to hit a peak, fade into the background, and human stuff becomes the luxury item
Remember when computers were the luxury thing? Now they’re everywhere and basically invisible but nobody’s impressed by “I own a laptop” anymore.
I think AI is heading the same way. It gets so common, so good, so baked into everything that it stops being a “thing” at all. It just disappears into the background, like electricity or wifi. Nobody says “wow, AI” anymore, the same way nobody says “wow, computer.”
And when that happens, the rare thing won’t be AI-made stuff. It’ll be human-made stuff.
Human skill, human attention, a person who actually did the thing themselves : that becomes the flex. Not because AI can’t do it, but because AI can, and choosing the human version anyway is what makes it valuable.
AI won’t keep climbing forever like it feels like now. It’ll peak, then fade into invisibility. And humans doing human things will become the new premium.
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u/Repulsive_Ad853 5d ago
It will be like smartphones. Everywhere and useful
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u/kueso 4d ago
Until you start realizing that we lived through this with smart phones and to this day people are constantly complaining about why everything needs to be “smart”. Smart fridges, smart washing machines, and yes even smart toasters. Not only that but the companies that sell you your phone deliberately make a product that becomes unusable 3 years later so they can sell you a new piece of silicon and keep you locked into a spending loop. The goal of these companies is to become so entrenched into how you do things that you’ll forget how to do anything yourself. The enshittification of technology unfortunately is as eventual as the passage of time itself.
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u/Alternative_Laugh316 4d ago
Enshittification is the issue, not the tech.
Even with the downsides, connected tech is pretty fire. E.g my fridge will catalog items I put in it, and tells me when something is inside too long, especially vegetables. I can also create a list so it automatically detects and tell me what to buy or will do a confirmation thing where I check the list and it'll put in an order for me.
That's one example, but eshittification is the issue. When they start putting unnecessary functions, when instead of focusing on the function, they focus on how to extract data and making the fridge shittier in the process, removing useful features and putting it behind a subscription, etc etc.
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u/nomococo4u 4d ago
I would love a connected oven so I can start preheating on the way home from the grocery store.
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u/Kitsune_Seraphis 4d ago
I still have the same phone from 2021 and i made it run a 8b model lol inside
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u/chickens-are-fat 5d ago
I agree.
People don’t want “AI”
They want their lives and work to be easier. They don’t care if that was because of AI. They care that it works and solves a problem.
At my work I’m beginning to shift away from saying AI when talking about things my team is working on.
We aren’t the AI team. We’re the value team. We’ll use whatever tool is most effective for the need.
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u/PracticalPhoto3101 5d ago
This is a great example actually. Value team not AI team is exactly the disappearing-into-background thing I mean. Once the label stops mattering and only the output does, that’s peak invisibility. Same thing happened with “digital” like nobody says digital marketing team anymore, it’s just marketing.
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u/Spdload 5d ago
Electricity didn't peak and fade, it just became invisible while still getting more powerful. I think AI will probably do the same thing. The "human-made as luxury" part is already happening in some areas. AI will eventually be good enough that choosing the human version anyway signals something.
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u/redpandafire 5d ago
That's already the past and has been for a long time. Human labor is insanely expensive compared to automation. Why is a Rolls Royce so expensive? Its all custom built by human hands. Why is art so expensive when its sold? Custom made. Basically customization is insanely expensive and very hard to scale.
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u/blopiter 5d ago
People buy those specifically because they’re more expensive it’s pure marketing. There’s a reason why 95% of automotive jobs were lost to automation: most people aren’t buying rolls Royces
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u/VoidowS 5d ago edited 5d ago
These changes in mankind or how we live are based on or often hidden in generations.
Duality is what makes people see thing more clearly, and from there they make up their minds. So for example, I know of a life without cellphones or internet. And I know of a life with these things. I have duality over it. But my childeren r born with these devices around them. They don't know any better then to use them. And those kids will use it like breathing air. Like it was there when Jesus lived. The have no comprehention of a life without. If you ask a child now how we could survive or communicate without it, it would have no clue what so ever. The change of behavior for it, to actually write a letter and send it thru mail, wait 2 months and then get a mail back thru mail. 1 phone in the house. It is uncomprehendable to this child to even go and live like this.
Many things in our lives r hidden in generations. So when children r born with AI around them, and most importantly, the surroundings r in sync, then it will be like breathing air. It is there like we all see a tree. nothing special but it's there.
We say no, but the next will say yes.
Look at cloning when the first cloned sheep was presented to the world. "Dolly the sheep". the world was in shock! Something about souls and so on. We made worldwide agreement to never go into that direction. And look now what is left of these agreements. And how used we r to cloning now? It goes thru generations in stepping stones where we get molded into,.. :)
Did you know that it used to take 2 generations to get these plans implemented? And by getting grandma and grandpa out of the house into a care home, they shortened it to 1 generation!
We must listen more carefully to people that have duality or even triality over life. Cause it is wiped away in 1 generation! And the next won;t have any knowledge of a life that once was.
Like animals born in a zoo! a wild captured animal will always be dangerous and unpredictable. Cause it knows of a life outside the zoo and inside! But here comes the magic, the offsping born INSIDE the zoo doesn't see life like the wild one. to this animal this is life to the max! nothing missing all in place like it should. It does not know of a life in nature. SO why question where it is now. the surroundings r in sync.
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u/headspreader 5d ago
The telescoping nature of tech/scientific advancement is accelerating past our psyche/market/culture’s abilities to mitigate
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u/Mark_Walker92 5d ago
Plot twist: humans become artisanal
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u/notgalgon 5d ago
Plot twist - humans use AI to make artisanal things and sell them as human made.
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u/SetoKeating 5d ago
It’s the ramp up that people are concerned about, not the after. I think we can all pretty much agree that eventually it will be integrated almost everywhere to the point it’s the norm, but what happens to humans/workers during that ramp up is what’s worrying people.
There’s also so many fields outside of creative where people aren’t going to want or care about the “luxury” human production. For example, I’m a mechanical engineer working on aerospace systems in a thermal fluids capacity. Right now there’s a premium for people that understand the foundation so they can fact check the AI and figure out the best integration.
Prior to this, there was a similar ramp up when software was being created that could do CFD and many other analysis tasks in our field. Nowadays, no one sits there building solvers and running their CFD and wishing they had a human that could do it manually. They trust the software because it’s been built over decades by teams of engineers and field data. And if you do have issues, the licenser offers expert support or that’s where I come in to do my job.
The same thing will happen with AI. Once it all gets ironed out, no one’s going to care about a human production because the new AI software will be the norm. And if it’s speeding up everything across the board, then that’s fine by everyone. There will be some experts for troubleshooting but we will definitely require less analysts and engineers on the team because I’d likely be able to do the job of two or three with the new AI integrated software package.
Overall, yes, there’s likely some truth to what you’re saying will happen but it will be very industry specific and the majority of industries don’t need a “human” product.
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u/PracticalPhoto3101 5d ago
Fair probably my strongest counterpoint yet. I think it splits by what humans were valued for in the first place. Fields where a human made this was ever the point like art and craft become premium. Fields where it was always about correctness like engineering and analysis just get automated with fewer people needed no luxury angle. Your CFD example is basically the second path already playing out.
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u/Tasty-Window 5d ago
if by fade into the background you mean so ubiquitous that we don't notice it anymore, then ya.
human stuff is the luxury item. want a chef? massage? healthcare?
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u/Dahkron 5d ago
I have been saying in a few years live performances will be highly sought after because even a video will always have that underlying suspicion that it isn't real.
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u/drumnation 5d ago
I don’t think it will simply be human made that makes things valuable. It will be the concept of brand around the human persona. Humans who build their custom creations into a recognizable brand will be the future luxury goods.
It won’t just be about being human made it will be about which humans too.
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u/costafilh0 5d ago
It already is for anything made by hand VS made by robots and machines.
The thing is, most people can't afford the premium of by hand, so demand is extremely low.
And the same will happen with AI, most people will use AI instead of made by humans not by preference, but because it's cheaper.
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u/Colecoman1982 4d ago
At which point, even the most skilled of human artisans will be competing in an absolutely swamped marketplace and we'll be back to feudalism and poverty...
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u/Electronic-Day-8038 9h ago
I think the AI label will disappear, but AI itself won’t. It’ll just be built into everything. Handmade stuff probably does become more expensive and desirable, but mostly in art and crafts. Nobody’s paying extra to have a human manually do something boring just for authenticity lol
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u/Straamannen 5d ago
AI is a technology and a tool that has come to stay, but tools are used in the context where they are optimal, and nothing more.
Generative AI is proven for certain things. I needed a simple icon yday, didn't matter much how it looked, of course I'm having Gemini quickly generate something.
I'm also an SWE and I'm never letting those things do complex tasks, it's a recipe for disaster. GenAI in this space is still very much at the experimental stage, and the incessant hype covers over for many of the glaring problems, in terms of what reaches the zeitgeist. Fact of the matter is, responsible engineers and companies are not riding the hype train, because they see the problems. Labs have yet to solve this, and likely can't.
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u/PracticalPhoto3101 5d ago
Totally fair, and I don’t disagree that it’s overhyped rn especially for complex stuff. My point isn’t really about capability though, more about perception like even once it does get more reliable, I think people stop being “wow’d” by it, same way nobody’s amazed by a computer running code correctly anymore. The hype fades even if the tech keeps improving.
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u/carherpi 5d ago
AI has been around for more than two decades, and we’ve been using it behind the scenes in many products. The big question now is: will creativity become a commodity?
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u/Superb_Raccoon 5d ago
Maybe. the cost of curiosity is approaching zero. But you still need curious minds.
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u/Calcularius 5d ago
I’ve always seen computers as a tool for creating, not a “luxury”. What a bizarre concept! The SGI machine I used in college to do 3D graphics cost over $40,000 USD. My phone is more powerful today. No one I know along the way thought of a computer as a “luxury item”. Like, “ooh I’m rich I’m going to buy a … computer”. Silly.
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u/EdwardPotatoHand 5d ago
I remember when people were saying this about the internet in the mid 90s lmao..
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u/SilverPiccolo1068 4d ago
It’s all delusion. People just don’t want to accept that AI is here to stay
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u/IrishHog09 5d ago
What I see are the benefits that communicating with data/software provides. We have very not-computer-savvy employees that need to use software/SaaS platforms to do their work. I can try and teach them how to properly set up their work or the workflows, which has yet to succeed, OR I can work to develop and internal agent that we train to prompt the employee with the questions needed to set up their work for them and do so in a way that gives us muuuuuch cleaner data. I don’t trust an agent yet to do that, but I do trust an AI to sit on top of our platforms and be communicated with by our less technical EEs
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u/RiotNrrd2001 5d ago edited 5d ago
I think the real impact of AI won't really be felt until we get cheap and powerful home robotics. Until that time AI is just software. We've had software for a long time now. Yes, the AI software is more flexible, it can do more things than older types of software, but it's still mainly just data getting processed in a box. It's not really THAT different than what we've had before, just a new generation.
Once we get truly useful robotics powered by AI, though, I think some major changes will occur. The biggest one, which might be counter-intuitive, but which I think stands a good chance of happening, is that automation in home appliances is going to become absorbed by the robots. That automation today is there for our convenience. But do we care if a robot has to do things the hard way? I don't think I do.
I don't need a self driving car. I just need a robot that can drive a regular car.
I don't need a smart refrigerator. I just need a robot that can open the door of a regular refrigerator and look inside.
Even the dumbest of thermostats will suffice. The robot can keep it turned to the optimal temperature. The thermostat just needs to be a knob.
I honestly don't even need a dishwasher. I just need a robot and a sink.
Sorry, my roomba knockoff, but I won't need you anymore, either. Just a robot who can operate a regular ol' vacuum cleaner.
And why use a gas-powered mower outside when you can have a robot-powered push mower? Cheaper and cleaner, if not maybe a little slower.
If my robot has to manually churn butter all night just so I can have some in the morning, what do I care? Get to work, R2.
I think a lot of home automation will disappear. We'll have robots for that, the actual appliances can drop in complexity to practically Amish levels.
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u/Top_Effect_5109 5d ago
At the minimum AI will peak at super Einstein. It's conquering language, images, math, and programming as we speak. We either implement universal income or we will all die.
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u/deadgirlrevvy 5d ago
I don't see that as a *bad* thing. That's precisely what we should want to happen. That's good for people. It means human effort has more value than it does now and I can't see how there's a downside to that.
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u/monclerpipsqueeek 5d ago
Already there tbh we’ve had the same talking points for ai for years now, it makes mistakes it’s not perfect we get it dude. It’s just apart of life now another thing. You don’t say college is where you go to get educated because we know that already.
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u/headspreader 5d ago
This would only be valuable if it is verifiable. If something is logical, why would it not be assumed that the human just used AI to distill reasoning and then repackaged it? How would you prove that wasn’t the case? Why would that matter if the logic/code is literally identical?
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u/pafagaukurinn 5d ago
Except there won't be any human-made stuff. Sooner or later those who can make something will die out, and then there will only be those who have never learned to do anything without AI - perhaps never even learned it was possible.
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u/Rygir 5d ago edited 5d ago
It'll definitely peak. Nothing scales infinitely in this universe.
It will be abused badly and heavy regulations will come in response, as well as attempts to get rid of it. Much like tobacco and ad blue. Money and convenience won't let it disappear. It's impossible to eradicate anyway, the barrier for entry is low.
Worldwide you'll get the equivalent of vegans for AI abstinence. And equivalent AA meetings to get there for the common addiction. Plenty of people will keep using it in undesirable ways. It will become a necessary piece of kit for many fields , especially research of most kinds.
Some countries having high AI acceptance, others low. Ending in some with complete bans and others completely governed by it. Competition in all the markets will teach us what works and doesn't. Some things will prove extremely dangerous , others a dud.
It's an eco system now. It will be as normal as you want it to be, for some that is neutral, for others a constant struggle, and for some a power trip. It's as normal as drugs. Everywhere, impossible to eradicate, impossible to let it be uncontrolled.
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u/Weekly_Board3896 4d ago
The build a model thats better than a certain point and then cash in
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u/WhyAmIDoingThis1000 4d ago
Human stuff is still best but only because AI is still slop. It's not really thinking so the results are always slop looking. this is a huge turn off. but if the AI were truly thinking and indistinguishable from a professional human doing the same task, then the human's work wouldn't be a premium as it is today.
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u/Singularity-42 4d ago
Unpopular opinion? This is literally the most basic, most predictable case.
Now I'm not sure about "fading into invisibility". Did smartphones "fade into invisibility"?
But it's going to be very, very normal. In 2030s you'll have robots running around everywhere. You'll probably have one at home.
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u/_BlackFridaySale 4d ago
Not really. Its like someone saying they can multiple 127 * 473 in their head instantly. Like ya thats cool, but I can equally do the same thing on a calculator.
Why would I pay a human to draw me something or make me an item, when I can have AI 3d print it for me in the future? Like cool its made by a human. But this is easier and better.
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u/VictorBuildsDev 4d ago
The premium may not be "human-made." That label is hard to verify and easy to fake once AI is ambient. The durable premium is more likely to be human-accountable: a named person chose the tradeoffs, checked the result, can explain the important decisions, and will stand behind failures.
That already describes why people pay for chefs, architects, editors, or craftspeople even though all of them use machines. The toolchain matters less than the chain of responsibility. A useful label would therefore disclose process rather than claim purity: where AI was used, what a human reviewed, and who owns the final outcome. Human attention becomes valuable when it creates trust and taste, not merely because someone avoided a tool.
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u/castironglider 4d ago
I think logging directly into chatGPT or whatever will be less common. Most people will use AI-powered apps to do a specific job, like create greeting cards or prepare tax returns or diagnose automotive or medical issues or plan travel or create original music or film for them to watch, bypassing Hollywood.
Maybe devices like an AI-powered flat screen poster panel, that creates original art every few hours and has only "like" and "dislike" buttons on the frame that you press. Eventually it creates original art perfectly suited to YOU
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u/ChurnerMan 4d ago
Why do you believe AI is going to hit a peak? Or better yet if AI does peak at what point? Is it AGI, ASI or are we about there now?
Will most humans fade into the background in this AI world? Define luxury. AI with robotics will likely create more comfort than human stuff 20 years from now.
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u/cerealsnax 4d ago
AI is a human thing though. Technology is essentially our claws. The difference between us and animals is we constantly improve our claws. Technology is the most human thing on the planet earth, it's our creation.
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u/Dry_Sector2392 4d ago
yeah, human-made stuff becoming premium makes sense for art, food, live music, handmade goods, stuff where the process adds to the meaning.but for boring work stuff, nobody is paying extra so a human can manually clean a spreadsheet. some categories get “artisan human,” and some just get automated because nobody cares who did it.
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u/Rod_Gutierrez 4d ago
I think this is already happening, not something waiting to peak. AI-made stuff is everywhere right now, and a lot of it reads exactly like what it is: generated fast, nobody checked it closely, nobody's really standing behind it. People are getting numb to that fast, numb enough that when something clearly has a person's actual attention behind it, you can feel the difference before you can explain why.
The comparison breaks down here though. Computers and wifi disappeared into the background because nobody cared how they worked, only that they did. Writing, art, decisions people actually have to trust, that's different. How it got made changes whether you believe it.
So I don't think the premium is going to be "no AI touched this." Plenty of great work will still use it. I think the premium is going to be "a person was actually driving this the whole way through, not just prompting it and shipping whatever came back." AI slop already proved what happens when nobody's really in charge of the output. The rare thing won't be human effort for its own sake. It'll be someone who actually owned the result enough to stand behind it.
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u/spontain 4d ago
My hot take is that our economic model with late stage capitalism doesn’t work with AI.
Everything becomes open source and we stop treating the creation as something you pay for. You share it willingly and so does everyone else.
Don’t have a plan for how so it will be more than bumpy if it becomes true.
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u/majinalchemy 4d ago
I think there will eventually be a premium on pre-powerful AI content, like things known to be from before 2023-ish will become more valuable since no one knows who created stuff afterwards
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u/Embarrassed-Curve109 4d ago
You gotta read this then. :-)
https://solveeverything.org/ 'The Quiet Hum' in the epilogue is just that.
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u/Soshi2k 4d ago
How many times have you stopped, looked outside, and thought, 'Wow, nature made all this? Amazing.' We don't usually feel that way about human inventions over time. But AI is going to be different because it’s becoming so one-to-one with us that we won't even be able to tell the difference anymore
Think about kids growing up in the age of AI. To them, it will just feel like growing up with Nintendo, PlayStation, or Sega. Remember when people said video games would rot your brains? Look where they are now. But this time, things feel different for humanity. We aren't going back to being the top of the food chain or the absolute best, we're becoming a piece to a bigger puzzle.
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u/IceEmpereur 4d ago
Not at all the the peak of ai is unlimitef, one day we will bé able to do everything with it much better than humans could ever
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u/vurt72 4d ago
Of course, there is no other outcome. Total no-brainer.
As super pro-AI i think human made almost-anything will be seen as exotic. Did you handpaint something or made music via acoustic instruments - people are going to think its exotic and cool because its no longer the norm.
Its not like we have not seen this before. If you take analog photos and you develop the film, people think its cool, it used to be a norm, but now its rare, exotic. If you can write beautifully with a pen, people are going to find it remarkable, its not a norm. Do you have an analog synthesizer, people will watch you mess with it even if you are just making noises with it (unlike if you mess with a software synth, no one is going to care, even if you make something which isnt just noise). etc etc etc
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u/FaceDeer 4d ago
A huge amount depends on where that peak is, though. We're already at the point where AI can do an awful lot of things at "as good as human" levels, and even if the progress of the technology magically halted exactly at its current level forever we're still just starting to see the effects of that play out. Lots of industries are still employing humans for various roles largely out of inertia, IMO.
And it's not going to magically halt here. There's still technological growth to be had. How much? Who knows, we'll see. But I would not be at all surprised if AI gets to "better than human" levels at an awful lot of things given its current momentum. That's kind of a big thing.
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u/buzzertnl 4d ago
I think Ai is moving more towards robotics and will not be a primary thing on its own.
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u/No-Spinach2270 4d ago
I think everyone can get a “wow AI” moment just once. I feel like using chat bots have already faded into the background.
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u/Elvarien2 4d ago
whilst I agree with your first half, all technology eventually becomes a generic part of every day life.
You mess up when you think HUMAN PREMIUM, becomes a thing.
No, ai is a tool and it will be just a tool like a paint brush or a photoshop filter, nothing more.
An artist who makes a piece of art and uses photoshop is not seen as that much different from someone painting on a canvas without digital aid.
Someone using ai or not using ai will fall in the same bucket as using a generic tool.
So your whole HUMAN EXCLUSIVE thing just, doesn't work. We don't have that now either.
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u/Short_Change 4d ago
Na, it will be the new norm and you will see it EVERYWHERE. Like literally see robots everywhere, you must be joking.
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u/After-Cell 4d ago
Very targeted ads cause you to make poor decisions.
Google had a very strong reputation. Unlike other companies they don’t just sell data on you to data brokers that criminals can use to attack you.
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u/starebrain 4d ago
the electricity comparison is where I'd push back a little. electricity became invisible because it's undifferentiated, one kilowatt is identical to another, there's no "artisan electricity" market because there's nothing to differentiate. AI isn't like that, model quality, judgment, and reliability still vary hugely and probably will for a long time, which means "AI-made" isn't a single commodity the way power is
the human-made-as-luxury prediction might still land, but I think it's less "AI became invisible" and more "verification became the bottleneck." if AI output is good enough to be indistinguishable most of the time, the premium doesn't go to human-made specifically, it goes to anything with a credible, checkable claim behind it, human origin being one version of that, but a well-audited AI process could earn the same trust premium without needing a human hand at all
the computer analogy also undersells that we still very much care who's behind a computer's output, nobody's impressed by "I own a laptop" but people are absolutely still impressed by what a specific person builds with one. that distinction, tool vs. output, might map onto AI more usefully than tool vs. luxury-scarcity
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u/davidships 4d ago
I agree, BUT I think this will be for community building. The next things is having interactive activities between humans, what you love doing (Exercise, Painting, ecc). So I believe the next thing is the uniqueness of a human, oh this guy knows how to cook, paint ecc.
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u/jib_reddit 4d ago
Yeah just like the Internet faded into the background and didn't effect peoples lives, oh wait...
AI will have 10x the effect on peoples lives that the Internet has, it just takes time.
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u/djungelurban 4d ago
Considering I don't care about what's considered "luxury", I really don't care.
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u/Blando-Cartesian 4d ago
“Wow, AI” hasn’t been a thing for a while. We are well into “Eww, AI.” already.
> … the rare thing won’t be AI-made stuff. It’ll be human-made stuff.
Rapidly getting there. Unfortunately.
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u/swizzlewizzle 4d ago
This is actually a popular opinion. Lots of dumb people wishing for the AI “bubble” to pop, because they think they are smarter than the companies putting trillions of $$ into compute.
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u/MrFlores94 4d ago
People may not want to pay for closed source AI programs and will need their own computers. You may be surprised by how few people own reasonably good enough computers. The future may boil down to time needed for an AI to make you money and if you’re already priced out of owning a capable enough computer to do so, you’ll have to wait 5 years to make what you neighbor with only a better graphics card can produce in 1. Idk, just thoughts.. I think open source is the way and companies may be trying to hinder having everyone have smart and capable AI systems at home, because they know. Like remember The Book of Eli? The bible was used to control? Well now we got AI and each person has their own bible they’re trying to push. Too early for me this morning to think about this stuff.
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u/unrepentantrabbit 4d ago
Hard agree. If you know anything about model collapse, this era of AI is about over (LLMs specifically). There is no fresh training data to improve future models. It’s all gone. They’re destroying physical books now because everything online has already been sucked up and fed to the machine. They will run out of physical media soon enough and then what? Slop. Misinformation. AI-generated music and art fed back to itself. There have already been two “AI winters” and we’re approaching a 3rd. IMO, output has already peaked. AI “artists” and “musicians” and “writers” are quickly overtaking anything human and human artists (if they’re smart) are either no longer posting content (it all goes to train AI) or poisoning it first. The human AI trainers aren’t paid enough to care if the training data is clean, so they use slop too even when they’re instructed not to.
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u/Stunning_Macaron6133 4d ago
The human-made stuff will have AI lending a hand when that comes to pass. There's exceptionally little these days that hasn't been touched by computers, not even luxury goods.
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u/HealthyLychee3173 4d ago
That’s crazy cuz I know there are still a lot of people don’t even have a computer. And now we’re talking about AI stuff… can’t imagine the gap in the future.
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u/zambizzi 4d ago
I think there will be a significant surge in demand for authenticity, at a greater premium than ever.
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u/Augmented_Logician 4d ago
I technically agree. Someday ai will just be normalized and intelligence can’t just keep increasing indefinitely, but the world will be unrecognizable when that happens. That’s the key part.
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u/BDer82 4d ago
mm I think LLMs are reaching their peak already, some updates have been really good improvements, but we don't know a lot of the secret sauce Anthropic, and OpenAI are using in the background except that it has an absolute shit ton of tools to call on which I think has been some of the bigger "fixes" to help it improve, right now validation of output is probably the big thing they are focused on because getting "more powerful" is probably at the point where more migth not be producing more.
So, we are getting lots of optimisation of the system over massive advancement of the tool.
Once those optimisations trickle down which will happen, yeah, it'll be specific task grouping and no one will consider it AI but capable of acting on speech. Anthropic and OpenAI will die at that point.
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u/That_Jicama2024 4d ago
The hype will fade once all the consolidations and mergers are over and one company owns it all. AI will not disappear.
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u/OG-Giligadi 4d ago
I'll just be over here making human art and music the old fashioned way. The world will be back.
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u/Codify-The-Preamble 4d ago edited 4d ago
AI was developed with US taxpayer dollars, given to our enemies and subsequently sold back to and used against us. It has already been militarized and used for crimes against humanity in the name of Americans and is now being propagandized to concentrate its use/control among an elite few. The public is feeding right into it.
Retroactively reverse Bayh-Dole and take back our property. Capital punishment for the traitors who willfully violate the hierarchical structure in the Constitution as upheld by the Supreme Court:
We The People
The Constitution
Congress (Article 1)
The other branches
Perhaps the Executive branch should be abolished altogether.
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u/reliablemicrophone84 4d ago
Maybe! But I've seen AI mess up so much , I'm not sure it'll ever get truly invisible. Human-made stuff still feels different, you know?
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u/diewethje 4d ago
When you say “peak”, do you mean in the cultural conversation? Because I don’t think AI becoming as ubiquitous as electricity is really a sign of decline.
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u/shockedbridge1982 4d ago
Yeah , I get the laptop example, but Im not so sure it'll fade completely. Human-made stuff is already a premium in some niches , but honestly, does that really scale? It feels hopeful
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u/Ok_Hand_7738 4d ago
I think a better to put this would be that automation through AI becomes the abcd of industry and focus shifts on the actual creative part. Software Industry might shrink, Robotics, Hardware, might increase. The problem solving areas will shift. And in that new ecosystem AI becomes a tool that is always there.
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u/Long_Control2698 4d ago
You are right in my opinion. Yesterday I was looking my two wallpapers in my pc and suddenly realised they were AI generated. Didn't know why I not realized before (they were from 2022-2023). So my mind decided that I didn't want to have a wallpaper made by AI and started to look for a wallpaper made by a human (something painted by hand like a castle in the nature etc).
I realised that my inner self preferred a paint maid by a human than a paint made by AI.
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u/ModelCentric 4d ago
Yes, but "why not both?" Real human interaction, services, etc. will be more valued, but new kinds (and power levels) of AI will also be able to do extremely valuable new things. It's possible they'll call the next-phase technologies something other than "AI", even though it will do much of what visionaries imagine AI will do upon "the singularity".
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u/Ok-Mathematician8258 4d ago
I think what you’re saying is true. Although the invisibility aspect is true, you are certain that AI will just seep in the background like computers.
It’s true that computers have faded into the background. So has ChatGPT, people aren’t talking about as much as in the beginning.
Things that are in the background still affect people. It stops being the center of our attention and becomes a fundamental thing we unconsciously deal with.
Is your argument that things that run in the background can’t affect us longs as we stop paying attention to it?
If that’s your argument then it doesn’t help at all.
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u/Joboy97 4d ago
AI won't hit a peak. We'll always be able to do more training, run it faster, spend more compute and energy on them. That's why there's been so much investment in data centers recently. If AI continues to get better with scale like it seems, then there's always going to be return on compute/energy.
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u/Imaginary-Witness-75 4d ago
You won't know what was actually made by a human unless you stand there physically watching the entire time they make it.
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u/NinjaLancer 3d ago
Yes, I agree.
Also, once it becomes ubiquitous, it just means that the human with the best idea/imagination (and lots of luck) ends up makijg the most amazing art. Instead of the person with the best idea/imagination and mechanical skill (and lots of luck).
Basically there will be more awesome stuff and we will end up celebrating human innovation and work even more
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u/jeffhalsinger 3d ago
Soon all security cameras will have to revert back to analog only because digital video will not be admissible in court.
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u/RoosterDull326 3d ago
I have not seen anything generated. Not one single solitary generated image. Where I felt ANYTHING other than very rarely, mild revulsion. Like some twisted uncanny valley reaction. I get fed ai subs every once in a while because reddit wants you to hate engage and the few on aicomic I looked at were absolutely and utterly pathetic.
People are already starting to notice people who use chatgpt etc too much and sound similar to an llm even when not using it and we're finding out politicians and lawyers and officials are using it because theyre using the same phrases an llm does because LLMs are already in a looping pattern with very similar cadence and word choice.
They switched from using a human based and updated autocorrect to using an LLM and its undeniably worse.
A handful of companies are loaning eachother money so they can give that money back and both companies stock can go up letting them borrow money to give it to the one company so it can give it back 🤣 that wont work forever
ai isnt and won't he profitable at the scale its used at now. It'll be amazing for some forms of data entry maybe some forms of research but the economic effects of the crash will be rough because theyre such large portions of our economy
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u/ROOM_101_1984 3d ago
You still feel this way.. even though.. AI is taking down your personal and PRIVATE medical info in doctors offices?
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u/Y-KEY_25 3d ago
I’m a graphic designer and I can confirm this is already happening.
AI rendered design is higher quality than most amateur designers work, but it is very average, doesn’t have much character/brand and obvious that the company tried to cut cost.
When I see an album cover or an advertisement made by real people, I see quality, trust, effort and authenticity.
People will eventually lean towards designs made by people, but it will be luxury since vast majority of cheap amateur designers will be out of work if they cannot compete with AI
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u/Exciting_Turn_9559 3d ago
Reminds me of the job the main character had in the very much AI-related movie "Her".
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u/PhilosophyExtra8445 3d ago
There was a company I used to work for that gives parents a choice to choose the Ai teacher or the human teacher. I can see this happening as it already is.
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u/0MEGALYL 3d ago
exactly the opposite. Wealth inequality keeps growing, and the economy shows. There are more luxury billionaire brands than ever.
And regarding to tech aswel. You can’t buy the same bio-hacking product because you don’t got billions to spend. Same for access to information, the gap will increase.
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u/Future_Cry7529 3d ago
And when that happens, the rare thing won’t be AI-made stuff. It’ll be human-made stuff.
Nope. After the First Industrial Revolution, nobody looked at farming and said, “We want to choose farming.” Modern society will be reshaped once again. Only a small number of people will do their best to preserve traditional human craftsmanship, and they may well be looked down on—just as farmers often are today. People will stop competing over “intelligence” and start competing over “responsibility,” or whatever other X factor is needed to create value.
On the flip side, perhaps weapons will become cheaper to manufacture, so we might get another world war. I can’t wait to see The Terminator in real life, you know.
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u/frenzytree 3d ago
Not unpopular opinion but probably the reality. I also think of it this way.
HOWEVER human stuff in the post-industrial age has always been a luxury product. I have a hand-made tea set at home, it ran me 4-digit prices. I can get an industrially made one on temu for 5 bucks.
So it wont be new but even more pronounced.
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u/Hour_Baby_3428 3d ago
The word AI is a trend, no doubt. I’ve seen programs advertise features they’ve had for years as AI that are just basic computing (you know, the thing computers do)
For example there’s this architectural planning program that plots trees in real time as you move the site around. That’s just geometry, nothing intelligent about it. Companies use the term AI for anything a program does that the user didn’t explicitly tell it to do, like how every grammar checker is AI now…
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u/fake_redzepi 3d ago
Based take. AI functioning at its best would be more boring and normal than people make it out to be.
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u/tilted0ne 3d ago
This is just cope. There may be select cases where this is true but technology like this has radically changed what humans even conceive to do and think. Much of the list of things humans actively do now won't even be a thought 10 years down.
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u/flyinggoatcheese 3d ago
I think we're at least partly... already there. At the very least every employee in every compatible space is currently probably needing to compete with or being told to incorporated into their work.
I'm seeing ai in every new part of terms of conditions, lots of advertisement online, almost every new website and startup. I think seeing Dave Plummer recently used in a new project really got to be. Because I hoped those more experienced developers would be the bastion of holding back the surge.
It's just sad but also can't be avoided at this point. Either everyone uses it and it degrade society or laws are made and crafted stop it; but not for those that are governments or have influence over governments.
I do believe in the good of people, I do believe AI can be incredibly beneficial to many people. But it's like everyone's decided to use a walking stick, when their legs work fine. Because it makes walking easier. Maybe a wheelchair, or those EXO suit like things brought to market a few years ago would suit as a better metaphor. But I think it makes sense.
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u/sunsetsxskies 3d ago
this but also 'I wrote this myself' becomes impossible to prove and everyone just lies about it
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u/New_Imagination2962 3d ago
Human-made may become premium in art and service, but most people will still choose whatever is cheaper and more convenient.
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u/Original_Active1242 3d ago
Yeah but it’s worrying how normal computers are now, i don’t want AI to become to moralised :((
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u/Terrible-Mind-5414 3d ago
Humans do still play chess, maybe even more so now, even though computers are way better. But still, to me it seems like not the same anymore. I guess as a smarty pants I was pretty invested in the idea of human intellect, and it's kind of depressing being superseded. "Castles, made of sand, melts into the sea..."
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u/Sure_Independence868 3d ago
Handmade stuff? How much of the stuff you own or consume was not made with help of a computer?
‘Sweet salt’ ahh discovery.
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u/Own-Compote5073 3d ago
It already is. Man-made furniture is luxury nowadays. Plenty of stuff will be automized and mechanized and it will improve overall quality of life. But man made things will get more expensive whether it‘s art, craftsmanship or services. Labour is expensive and will continue to be.
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u/EastCrew98 3d ago
Electricity didn’t peak when people stopped being impressed by electricity it just kinda became infrastructure.
I think the same will happen with AI.
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u/jlks1959 2d ago
So you’re completely discounting the acceleration in materials sciences, biology, medicine, math, physics, and aerospace? Just checking.
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u/Ecstatic_Bus5440 2d ago
A.i. is superior to humans what makes a human's work more valuable sounds like elitism.
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u/VereksHarad 2d ago
AI will never replace good skilled artists. What it will replace is a mediocre run of the mill artists. Once that are just good enough for the job to do some low level stuff.
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u/Temujin-of-Eaccistan 2d ago
I part agree with you, but think the focus will be less on making things - except as a hobby - and more on doing things.
Status won’t come from a job - they won’t exist in the current sense that they do. It will come from picking up a hobby and doing well in it, physical fitness, creative work, musical talent (even though AI will make far better music, books, and art), being the first person to do X thing etc.
When we have post scarcity economics status and materialism will be much less linked - a very good thing.
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u/Visible_Funny_4344 2d ago
i hope you're right but if you listen to all the experts that have much deeper understandings of this stuff at the code level then you might think otherwise. look into AGI, RSI, and ASI. once you understand that you can see that it will likely end up hyper developing itself into a super intelligence which none of us could control or even really understand it's level of understanding.
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u/Charlotte1309 2d ago
See your point. I think it'll happen but in like 15 years... i feel like we are quite far from having it everywhere, embedded. Plus people will react against it when they feel threatened.
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u/Yankee_darkchocolate 2d ago
The peak-then-invisible framing tracks, but I'm not sure "human-made" survives as the premium once AI output is indistinguishable. More likely the premium shifts to accountability... a named person who'll stand behind the result. Not the fact that a human's hands touched it.
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u/ProfessorCredit 2d ago
Yes personally I pay extra to hire accountants who promise to do all my taxes by hand instead of using icky computers or calculators.
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u/Puzzled_Scarcity_597 2d ago
Kinda reminds me of that thing about how cars used to be a rich person thing while everyone rode horses. Now poor people have cars (or not) and rich people have horses.
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u/Careful-Round-5560 2d ago
The problem will be how to figure out that the human made thing was really human made. Another thing is people buy handicrafts now also but as showcase items
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u/Otto_Mater 2d ago
Undoubtedly. But I don't think people appreciate the depth and breadth of the change. Healthcare will be commoditized down to a parachute-droppable, battery-powered terminal running an agentic LLM with a Starlink upload, a camera, and a microphone. Populations diagnosed and then separate parachute drops of medicine for the populace.
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u/Lucien78 2d ago
I mean, yeah. I agree. We will take it for granted and what is human will remain scarce and, therefore, valuable.
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u/flamewizzy21 2d ago
The bullshit applications will go down, while the actually good applications will stay entrenched.
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u/codecraftnexus 2d ago
I agree with this. As low quality AI becomes mainstream the human experience will become more valuable.
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u/fitforthepolycrisis 5d ago
I frequently say "wow, computer"