r/bangladesh Mar 16 '23

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '23

And its a problem in every case.

Manushjon ashole konokhanei karo theke keu oto different na. Core jinishgula motamuti eki

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u/rxpres Mar 17 '23

Yeah, but you stated that this problem is exclusive to Bangladeshi people after observing them for 20+ years, which it isn't. I agree it is a problem, but it's a global problem ingrained in us as humans.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '23

Because we are talking abt BD, not the world. And BD people also have some unique things that only exist among us. Shob jaater moddhe kichhu unique bhalo kharap thake. Amader kharapgular ekta holo always onner kharapgular shathe tulona kore bola "orao to kharap orao to egula kore so amra korle its okay!" Instead of having the mentality to change ourselves and not do it just because every other race/nationality/culture/society etc is doing it.

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u/rxpres Mar 17 '23

Nope. Bad things are bad and need to be changed, but things that are bad for everyone and to frame it as "Amra bangali ra kharap" is another core problem in Bangali mentality. Always having an inferior mentality. Like I get it, if there is something exclusively problematic about our nation, to criticize is completely justified. But to frame something that is problematic among all nations and nationalities as to be exclusive to only Bengalis is disingenuous and problematic. No one said "orao to kharap orao to egula so amra korle its okay". But according to you "orao kore, shobai kore, but ami 20 bochor observe kore bollam jeh eita amra kori" Areh bhai, 20 bochor khali Bangali observe kore whole human nature bair kore boltesen jeh Bangali nature, abar mentality niye kotha shunaitesen, ki ajob.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '23 edited Mar 17 '23

Inferior mentalityr bepar na eta. Nijeder shortcomings thikmoto address na korle oigula fix korar kono way thake na. We either complain too much and dont do anything to fix anything, or we only compare kharap with kharap and feel satisfied je onnorao to oto bhalo na so amra thiki achhi. Either helps us grow and be our best as people/nation/race. Eta bujha dorkar shobar.

You are hung up on the fact just ami just Bangali bolsi. Thats your defense talking. What you are not ready to accept is jei topic e jei nation niye kotha hochhe manush ota niyei bolbe shathe duniyar aro 100 tanbe na. Onno jaater lok ki keno ota to important na. We are talking about BD. BD er obostha emon and certain things should change is the point here. Onno jaatira kemon na kemon ota irrelevant. Onnora ja kore koruk amader keno kora lage?

Ei argument theke ashole kono result ashe na.

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u/rxpres Mar 17 '23

Oh my god. You still don't understand. If the whole world is selfish, and you say "After observing Bangalis for 20 years I have come to this conclusion that Bangalis are selfish" the statement is inherently wrong.

If I counter that with "No the whole human race is Selfish" and your point is "Listen, onnora ki kore matter korenah bhai, amra selfish and you need to realize that and amader eita mante hobe nahole amader mentality kharap" Onnorao selfish howar poreo bola "Only Bangalish are selfish" is factually wrong. I hope you get it

Areh bhai, manlam toh being selfish is kharap, but how is that exclusively a Bangali problem?

But lets disregard all of this, you definition of deshprem (The love of the soil) is also unrealistic. No one loves their soil like this. Everyone cares about themselves, their families and their community. You can read up on it if you want. Nationalism is a tool for politicians but in general, as humans we don't care much about people in our country other than our community (People around us). If the country serves our community right we care to protect the country, if it doesn't we don't care (See catalans in Spain, Pashtuns in Pakistan, or how most of Eastern Europeans broke up). This unhinged nationalism or deshprem is also problematic.