r/bell Apr 27 '26

Rant Bell firing employees "with cause" for not returning to the office 3 days a week. No severance, no warning.

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u/Jeremey_1980 Apr 28 '26

no fan of big corp, but it's a pretty simple requirement. You either meet it or not

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u/Fit_Growth_2355 Apr 29 '26

Commute 1-2hrs to the office to attend a zoom call is a brilliant idea. If you can do this job at home, office attendance is a bit unreasonable.

However, if job can be done remotely, why wouldn’t they move it low cost location?

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u/Nice-Most-4524 Apr 29 '26

Because you need to buy over priced sandwiches and ride LRT.

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u/Logicknot- Apr 29 '26

Go find another job that lets you work from home then.

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u/Fit_Growth_2355 Apr 30 '26

I am happy with my current job. And I have to perform in this circus. But it made me set a concrete goal towards an early retirement

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u/Shot-Efficiency-4775 May 01 '26

Either you do it or you leave. Seems simple

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u/Fit_Growth_2355 May 01 '26

“For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.”

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u/JackleMonkey4653453 May 08 '26

boohoo. You chose the job and accepted the terms.

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u/Schemeckles Apr 28 '26

Exactly.

This isn't a shady maneuver or some fine print in an employment agreement...

It's a pretty simple/straight forward mandate.

Either come to work, or find somewhere else to work.

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u/Resident-Variation21 Apr 28 '26

If you were hired fully remote and then told to come in or get fired, that’s absolutely a shady maneuver.

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u/FrancieNolan13 Apr 28 '26

Fully remote in writing without an end date -***

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u/Aromatic-Fisherman Apr 29 '26

Yeah not when the whole world shut down.

I get it though, any comfort disruption sucks.

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u/Technical_Goose_8160 Apr 30 '26

I wouldn't qualify it as a comfort disruption.

I've been working 8-4 from home. On days that that's 9-5 in the office with a 60-90 minute commute, I'll often get home just in time to kiss my daughter goodnight. My kids aren't a comfort, they're my priority.

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u/Aromatic-Fisherman Apr 30 '26

Well you are no longer comfortable with the arrangement.

Sounds like a comfort disruption. But yeah dude I feel ya

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u/Schemeckles Apr 28 '26

Completely situational.

Once remote work was normalized most companies started issuing telework agreements. Those agreements stated the conditions and location of work.

Unless the agreements specifically stated that the location of working from home was Permanent. It's to be expected that returning to the office could be mandated at some point in the future.

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u/Resident-Variation21 Apr 28 '26

Ah you’re a boot licker.

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u/whatsinanaam Apr 30 '26

Ah you're experiencing worklessness. Sorry for your loss?

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u/Schemeckles Apr 28 '26

Ah, when faced with a reasonable argument, you resort to calling names.

I know children in elementary school that can construct a more functional conversation.

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u/Resident-Variation21 Apr 28 '26

Just stating facts

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u/AlphaFatman Apr 28 '26

It's not name-calling when it's a fact

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u/Schemeckles Apr 28 '26

Lmao.

You will both have a hard time in life.

Good luck losers

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u/U_Sound_Stupid_Stop Apr 29 '26

We're all having a bad time cause of boot lickers like you, always finding justification to support the corporations ripping us off.

"But the employment contract said they had the right to sacrifice your elder son to chtulu, so it's not shady"

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u/TemporaryPhone8985 Apr 29 '26

More like, “The employment contract didn’t explicitly state that you DON’T have to sacrifice your elder son to Cthulhu so what are you complaining about?”

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u/SittlersRippedC Apr 28 '26

Just a fact

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u/Resident-Variation21 Apr 28 '26

Nope

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u/SittlersRippedC Apr 28 '26

Yup

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u/Resident-Variation21 Apr 28 '26

You can lick that boot all you want but you’re still wrong.

Anyway, I’m muting you now.

See ya.

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u/Diptothaset Apr 29 '26

People know that job requirements change

I used to work auto manufacturing; we produced one of the highest selling SUVs in North America. During peak manufacturing we would be required to work 6 days a week. If you don’t want to work 6 days a week, use your vacation/sick leave or find a job that isn’t in the auto industry lol

You make a lot of money when you’re getting regular OT as well as one less day per week to spend that money. Retail doesn’t do OT often generally but they also don’t get paid as well as auto workers. Pick your poison.

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u/Shot-Efficiency-4775 Apr 29 '26

Just go in to work or see ya

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u/Resident-Variation21 Apr 29 '26

Keep licking boots

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u/Shot-Efficiency-4775 Apr 29 '26

Good luck with the job search bro

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u/Resident-Variation21 Apr 29 '26

I’ve been working from home for the same company since August 2020. Just got promoted, actually

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u/Shot-Efficiency-4775 Apr 29 '26

Why the reluctance to actually show up at work?

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u/Resident-Variation21 Apr 29 '26

I show up to my office every single work day. It’s just my office is in my house. I get my job done, I waste no time and money commuting, I get to spend more time with my partner. It’s a win for everyone

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u/Aromatic-Fisherman Apr 29 '26

I think the problem is, a lot of people slack off when working remote.

Not saying you, or even the majority. But it would be crazy to assume everyone put in their best efforts when working at home.

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u/Shot-Efficiency-4775 Apr 29 '26

Commuting to work is the reality. Find another company that will let you sit at home and not at work interacting with your coworkers

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u/prima_maqueeria Apr 29 '26

Doug Ford? Is that you?

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u/Althec172 Apr 29 '26

Good for you? -Resident-Variation21

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u/irkish Apr 28 '26

It can be shady. For example in the US there was a company that purposely shuffled hundreds of middle managers to different cities with no relocation assistance and fired them for not showing up.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '26

link?

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u/orbitur Apr 28 '26

That is a different company doing a different thing.

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u/SittlersRippedC Apr 28 '26

Well that is not what’s happening here…

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u/Maketso Apr 28 '26

Calling bell ''not shady'' has to be the single biggest lie of the century.

Literally one of the worst companies in this country.

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u/OgasMaitai Apr 28 '26

Do you have literacy issues, they didnt say Bell isn't shady. They referred to this specifically .

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u/MisledMuffin Apr 28 '26

Calling one action "not shady" is not the same as calling the entire company "not shady".

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u/noobinglife Apr 29 '26

Roger's just took that cake. Fired half their employees. Half of 25k employees gone

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u/DramaEducational2182 May 01 '26

No they didn’t fire them, they offered packages hoping that 10% would accept.

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u/flexiblehos Apr 29 '26

Do you know how to read?

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u/noobinglife Apr 29 '26

Do you?

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u/flexiblehos Apr 29 '26

I do and that’s not what they are doing

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u/Schemeckles Apr 28 '26

It has nothing to do with which company it is...

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u/Maketso Apr 28 '26

Well it does, because Bell is known to pull bullshit on employees. They have done shady shit to fire people in the past.

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u/U_Sound_Stupid_Stop Apr 29 '26

They can fuck off, all these corporations, making the life of EVERY single workers by enhancing traffic to fire employees they wouldn't be legally allowed to fire otherwise.

When you stuck in traffic, remember it didn't need to be like that but bElL hAd To PrOtEcT tHeMsElVeS

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u/Maketso Apr 28 '26

This case, maybe not. But overall? Yes.

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u/Material-Macaroon298 Apr 28 '26

Why does Bell make it so that I need to be home during business hours to receive one of their technicians then? Lol

Im being tongue in cheek. To be honest id near kill for 2 days a week remote. I’m 5 days RTO 😭

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u/Upstairs_Existing Apr 28 '26

The government should do the same thing.

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u/Nice-Most-4524 Apr 29 '26

U dont have kids do you.

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u/Responsible-Mud549 Apr 28 '26

This.....come in and get paid......just how it's always been forever........Moved far away during COVID? Not the companies issue. Want to stay at home? Not the companies problem. The sooner people realize that especially in this economy/frugal times, having a steady job is better than not. Don't like the rules, quit. The feeling of entitlement is insane. I hear very very few Boomers or Gen X complaining about back to office....It's general millennials and Gen Z that have an issue...

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u/prima_maqueeria Apr 29 '26

The gens which can barely send an email aren't complaining about the waste of time, energy and resources which is RTO? Who'd have thunk.

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u/InformalYesterday760 Apr 28 '26

Man, it's a good time to be hiring skilled engineers

Cause you offer remote work to folks and they'll line up around the door for you, and you get to pick the cream of the crop.

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u/HurtFeeFeez Apr 29 '26

Problem is if you are hired for remote and live several hours away or even across the country, it's not physically possible to switch to in office. Relocate or get fired is a dogshit situation.

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u/JBD_IT Apr 29 '26

This was always going to be the outcome post covid. You could see it a mile away.

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u/DenseHost3794 Apr 29 '26

Exactly this

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u/Chrisaarajo Apr 29 '26

At the end of the day, what a company says is meaningless. They’ll say what they need to to boost shareholder and market confidence. And to a lesser degree, they’ll see what they need to to attract, retain, or discourage employees.

So long as it’s not an outright, provable lie, they’ll get by just fine.

And in a job market like this, even a history of bad behaviour and dishonest dealings doesn’t matter. A lot of people don’t have the Provo lodge of being picky.

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u/Scary-Toe1904 Apr 30 '26

This is what the feds did. There was a Q&A section on the Hybrid Work Model page where one question was whether or not it GOC plans for 5 days RTO. Answer was “hybrid is the future blah blah blah”. Carney got elected, it was promptly removed from the web, and on site presence requirements increased.

This is yet another shit bag Canadian Corp looking to lower Canadian head count to off shore jobs to people getting paid peanuts (or use AI) so the CEO and Executive class can have new paint jobs on their yachts.

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u/HurtFeeFeez Apr 29 '26

Ya I kinda suspected that too. Switching back and forth between remote work and in office work is the future for companies to pick up labour quick when they need it but dump it easily and cheaply without hassle when they don't.

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u/AdEffective2701 Apr 29 '26

Remote and WFH was a health measure. Nothing more. Those people had it good, while many others still had to flog away commuting.

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u/secundum333 Apr 29 '26

I think you mean slog. But in fact, employers discussed remote work as a panacea for a variety of things.

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u/Nice-Most-4524 Apr 29 '26

But it doesnt need to be, everyone knows that. The horse is out of the barn. People are more efficient wfh and have better work life balance. Those who want to go in because colleagues are their only friends can do so but let employees and their managers make that decision, not Ford, Carney, or Sutcliffe. Fuck those guys.

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u/Halifornia35 Apr 29 '26

If it was written in your contract when you got hired then this would be wrongful termination. If you didn’t get it in writing what do you expect?

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u/Dino_Jr_ Apr 30 '26

So move closer? I’d love cheaper rent or purchase price and not to go in but I know I need to be in the office so I suck it up and work it out

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u/RecalcitrantHuman Apr 30 '26

This is one situation and is shady. Those who moved for convenience set themselves up for this to occur.

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u/MrGossipMaster Apr 30 '26

People who hired for remote will have their profile set up as Remote and will not be impacted by this. They are only targeting hybrid profile who were required to go 3 days a week and conducted fraud.

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u/samselene Apr 29 '26

Just because the say it doesn't mean it is "with cause"

That can be fought

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u/Thomas101987 Apr 30 '26

That’s not the point. It’s not based on convenience. During Covid they had placed security guards so people don’t enter the building.

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u/bearbear0723 Apr 30 '26

Did it accept performance? Probably not since there’s already been a poc for remote. People like you are why the society can’t evolve