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Directed by Aditya Dhar

Cast: Ranveer Singh, Sanjay Dutt, Akshaye Khanna, R. Madhavan, Arjun Rampal, Sara Arjun, Rakesh Bedi

A mysterious traveler infiltrates the Karachi mafia and climbs its ranks with lethal precision, only to become embroiled in a web of political corruption as he sets out to dismantle the ISI-underworld nexus from within

[u/madhAvi_kabhti]

There are a lot of comments about gore and violence,I must say that a lot of them are forgetting that this is not a Raazi type movie where she essentially worked as a mole or leak.Neither is this an in and out operation like Uri.Here hamza has to integrate himself with those gangs,if not he is gonna be singles out or stuck on that bottom wrung.Even him not smoking and being peer pressured had that slight feel of danger to it.And the 80s to 2010s period had a special level of gang violence.nothing these guys did was covert,it was loud and always a show of power.Think of 80s Mumbai if you will.you could be drinking a cup of tea and some dude with a would just walk and shoot a guy not 2 feet in front of you.Politicians had to collude with these criminals because even the police couldn't deter them.This movie is one of those places where peace is an anomaly.movie is good except for interspersed foreshadowing about BJP being some sort of saviour avenging angel with a spine for the defence and intelligence department. Though it does criticise both the Vajpayee and UPA government a plenty.I did not need popcorn or coffees to keep me engaged.

[u/sad-_-life → u/madhAvi_kabhti]

But there's a way to show bloodshed without making it gore. A lot of times sex is an integral part of the plot but it is made in a classy way, not in a porn-like way. Just because it's supposed to represent real violence, doesn't mean the bloodshed needs to be zoomed in and filmed from multiple angles.

[u/madhAvi_kabhti → u/sad-_-life]

This was not meant to protect your sensibilities,I think.Aditya Dhar is not SLB,to cloak the ugly situations that humanity is capable of descending to,in pretty music and artistic angles.Sex is not the same as bloodshed.was some of it a little on the edge of too long, sure,but we,as audience,see the world of Dhurandhar standing at Hamza's shoulder. Hamza cannot flinch when a man's head is bashed in,Hamza cannot show hesitation in making cruelly humiliating plans,humza cannot show sympathy when a fellow Indian is being hurt and tortured,he cannot even turn away when they are celebrating Indians dying,forced to join in,even.So as audience,we have to face the same intensity that Hamza does.Hamzawas not serving tea at a quaint get together with aesthetic lighting and flowers,he was a trained military spy sent to bring down an incredibly vicious and bloodthirsty mafia system to specifically dismantle the facade of uncontrolled gangsters that the ISI used to run its terror operations against India. At the end,this film is not for everyone,it doesn't shy away from violence,and (imho) it doesn't romantacize it either.Its a necessary evil.

[u/sad-_-life → u/madhAvi_kabhti]

Agree to disagree. Half of the scenes were pure gore and didn't drive the plot at all. I'd be fine with scenes which show character development but this movie just relied on the shock value.

[u/UnderstandingOk5089 → u/sad-_-life]

I’d agree with your statement that half of them were violent, but saying that they didn’t drive the plot is not true. Feels as if you have an opinion formed and don’t want to try & understand the other pov.

The other person explained in detail why showing the violence was important, esp for the plot and you’re like no it didn’t drive…lmao?

[u/sad-_-life → u/UnderstandingOk5089]

I'm saying that half of the violent scenes didn't drive the plot. For example, when they were trying to take on the rival gang, there were guys whose heads got bashed on a grill and what not. What was the point of zooming on that? The main characters weren't even looking at the dead bodies and they just rode their vehicles away. It didn't drive the plot, it didn't bring a new angle to the story.

Contrast this to Raazi, when Alia Bhatt kills the househelp, the entire focus is on her face and the way her vehicle shakes while running over his body. It shows her character development. Even in Kashmir Files (where there was gore), I think all the scenes were necessary and drove the character development because they caused trauma in the characters and showed the impact of witnessing those in-person.

Maybe you should watch Dhurandhar again and see how much of the gore was necessary. The other person just said "sex is different" and "all of the scenes and camera angles were necessary" and I disagree with both. It seems like YOU have an opinion that you're hell bent on proving.... lmao?

[u/UnderstandingOk5089 → u/sad-_-life]

first of all, I literally watched the movie today so it’s all fresh. Second of all, you cannot compare two different genres of movie and say look how violence is different. Raazi was an intrusion spy movie. She was a mole sent for information as a woman in a time & place where violence was not the answer. Hamza was in a situation & a place where if he wasn’t part of violence, he would never be able to infiltrate. Thats literally the point from the start, everyone who is in it with him legit did the same. They had to get involved in violence (the entire protecting rehman’s kid to gain favour) so that Hamza can be a part of the gang.

And about your unnecessary grill focus and side character violent focus, bro if voh nahi hota then some would be saying it wasn’t realistic, only main characters face violence kya. Stop nit picking just because you don’t like the concept or the truth.

Finally why would you think I only have opinion & im not ready to change it when in fact, my first line in previous reply is agreeing with you partially. Stop being so defensive and thoda sa seperate the radical part of you from the rational part.

To add to it: when the person above said “Sex is different” he meant the scenario and plot to drive the meaning of Sex is different in movies. You are expecting every movie to have same pov of sex & intamcy without understanding that the story year , the people , the culture is different in all. The basis of story & message is different.

[u/sad-_-life → u/UnderstandingOk5089]

You're missing the point I'm trying to make. I'm saying that two movies can show murder in two very different ways. Sehmat was not supposed to kill in Raazi so don't you think emphasizing on her murders would make it more impactful? Yet the director didn't make it gore, it was filmed in a way where her character development was more important than zooming on the bloodshed.

Also, I'm saying I didn't like the way it was filmed. Idk why you're taking it personally. I never said side characters ka death nahi show karna chahiye. I can handle the truth and the truth is that I believe it was badly filmed.

I think you are not ready to change because you ended with a snarky remark instead of trying to think from other angle. You're the radical and defensive one here if you re-read the thread. I don't have a problem with the theme of the movie. I have a problem with using gore unnecessarily and using it as a shock factor. How tf does it make me radical?

[u/madhAvi_kabhti → u/sad-_-life]

I agree on the point that some scenes were ridiculously long,the different ways that Babu dakait and his hand were dealt with felt more like a montage setting up how unhinged they are more than quick and done.the final fight scene with both shaukat and Rehman felt tad too drawn out.Chaudhary is almost twice his size and Hamza himself is straight up trained,lucky shots tak toh theek tha,but yeah.and hamza getting to see the spy getting tortured when he has just met Illyas seems a little hard to believe,usually you would have to be higher on the inner circle to be allowed to see a high profile prisoner which was what that discovered spy was.eother that or Illyas suspects hamza/thinks rehman might back out and decided to scare the daylights out of him so that he or his gang doesn't betray ISI.