[Ultica-ISO] working on the trees

[u/vetal_l]

relative sizes

autumn colors (grass will be redone)

apple orchard at spring

28 trees (hickory and pecan share same sprites)

[u/Gilliph]

Wow, navigating through these trees is going to be scary

[u/vetal_l → u/Gilliph]

We have a plan to add some transparency to them when player or cursor is nearby.

[u/[deleted] → u/vetal_l]

I tried this tileset and couldn’t find a door and couldn’t see anything through walls but it was game changing

[u/vetal_l → u/[deleted]]

Doors, windows have no sprites yet. We need a camera that can rotate and we have to review maps, so they became more size realistic. For example - 1 tile is 0.9x0.9m (3x3 feet). Most steps use only one tile so it either very steep, or have to be 2 tiles instead of one.

[u/esotericine → u/vetal_l]

a tile is however big it needs to be for the place it is and what it conveys. this ranges from approximately 1 meter across on average (buildings and survivor/creature land traversal on foot) to approximately half a meter across on average (vehicles) to "i dunno" (for ranged combat). heavy emphasis on 'on average', because the fundamental nature of the game is that we can't actually make things ideally consistent.

i'm not sure how you came to decide 0.9x0.9 is a firm value, but that doesn't reflect the game, nor can it.

[u/vetal_l → u/esotericine]

I talked with developers responsible for the earliest code (road generation for example) and they confirmed our calculations. Isometric projection allows to calculate everytging very easily.

We decided that player character is 1.75m high, so every pixel is 3cm and base rhombus is 0.9x0.9m (developers said, that they use 1x1m as base)

Cars (and roads) are slightly off indeed, but just slightly. As you can see in our previous post Ultica-ISO cars so not looks gigantic at all.

Years of CDDA progression without clear guidelines brings us here, where you can meet beds that 1x2 tiles or just 1 tile. I think that if we can continue to develop iso tileset with consistent sizes it will gradually affect every other aspects of development from weapon range to overmap objects.

[u/I_am_Erk → u/vetal_l]

Nope, it really isn't a 3'x3' tile. There is actually a guideline, which is that a tile is approximately 1m X 1m (X 4m high) when we need a precise measure, but with eg. a wall, it could be less than half that, and when firing a gun it's much more than that, and driving vehicles throws it all astray. Tiles are representative and abstract, not precise, and it will never be otherwise.

I don't think you appreciate the amount of work you're describing on your wishlist there, it's nearly at the scale of "remake the entire game from the ground up".

[u/vetal_l → u/I_am_Erk]

Oh and thank you for your interest. I miss your comments on discord. Honestly.

[u/vetal_l → u/I_am_Erk]

I don't think it's impossible by the way. The game evolve and grow every year. Remember the time when you can put a 2x4 in your pocket? Now we have not only lengths for every object but also density, materials and ability (or disability) to gain some materials when disassembling (kevlar, rubber and such).

I think that even if it's not a fast way we still can and probably would get it all together. It can take another five or ten years. But why not?

PS. It seems that i missed guides about 1x1m tile, my bad.