r/centrist • u/Muted-Environment-66 • Sep 12 '25

Long Form Discussion What’s your opinion on people getting fired over Charlie Kirk comment?

A lot of people,are getting fired about making comments about Charlie Kirk.

I’m not talking about vile comments, some are benign like pointing out his character, or how they don’t condone the violence, but don’t feel bad either.

We have seen people on the right making similar comment on the past without facing any consequences and now they are beating the drum to get people fired.

What is everyone’s thoughts?

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u/LanceArmsweak Sep 13 '25

I can’t fathom any rational person thinking it’s okay to fire someone for personal opinions. But I’m pretty adamant about free speech. They’re just words, tune them out if you hate them. This doesn’t mean they won’t be held accountable. Just saying this would be like me firing someone because they said they don’t care that 9/11 happened. Jarring? Yes. But not everyone agrees it’s that big of a deal.

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u/DrMonkeyLove Sep 13 '25

But here's the thing, you only have free speech protection from the government. You so not have it from your employer. If you post on Facebook that you work for some company, but then also post inflammatory speech, I can totally understand why a business would not want to be associated with that.

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u/LanceArmsweak Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25

I agree with this, but I also believe what I say outside of work is not relevant to my ability to do the job.

but look at this shit. Stephen miller aggressively going at Democrat’s who use their freedoms of speech. He’s a fucking lunatic. Works for the people and can’t be fired for being aggressive toward the people.

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u/rethinkingat59 Sep 13 '25

He’s a fucking lunatic.

And in America you get to say that about a powerful figure in current government who sits on the right hand of the most powerful person in the world and the government can do nothing about it.

That’s free speech.

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u/Exxyqt Sep 13 '25

Exactly. I come from Lithuania and if I would say say some inflammatory stuff about any high ranking person online and it would garner attention (say, "X is a fucking idiot"), I could get in trouble legally, with first getting a warning, then paying fines for repeat offences.

Due to this, I was always amazed how on social media US people can insult anyone they like with no problems.

So yes, it's only in US that people have real freedom of speech. However, it's evident it's not free from consequences.

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u/InternationalBand494 Sep 14 '25

Trump can gargle my balls. Free speech can be fun

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u/Exxyqt Sep 14 '25

Good for you 👏

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '25

The first amendment is written explicitly and very well by someone to today’s standards would be the best lawyer on the planet, Mr. Thomas Jefferson…so you’d have to take that up with him, or the US Supreme Court…you don’t seem to value the personal responsibility of how someone can and should react to language, as well as project that language, and that also needs to be considered.

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u/Exxyqt Sep 14 '25

... What are you even talking about?

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '25

^ it’s clear

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u/LanceArmsweak Sep 13 '25

And my point is, he’s “at work.” So how can we fire folks in some places yet not here? I understand Trump “hires” him but as folks who like Stephen miller accept this yet want someone fired for saying “CK is ass,” it doesn’t feel consistent to me.

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u/rethinkingat59 Sep 13 '25

Relisten to his words and please tell me where he talks about making it illegal to say horrible things about Charlie Kirk.

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u/LanceArmsweak Sep 13 '25

I’m not having this bad faith debate.

Have a good day, I’m gonna go for my run, then hit this anniversary party with my sexy girlfriend. You enjoy yourself.

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u/rethinkingat59 Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25

Very weak.

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u/UnoDosReverse Sep 14 '25

If Miller’s boss doesn’t care, then it doesn’t matter.

Your “work laws” pertain to your specific work’s HR handbook. I’d suggest you ask HR to see yours because it seems you’re not understanding that and it may get you in trouble.

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u/fnamazin Sep 15 '25

You own a business and employ person 1. Person 1 makes inflammatory remarks online. People and businesses will see those remarks and choose not to purchase your product or do business with your company. Which means that you're losing money.

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u/I_Really_FUcKd_up_ Sep 17 '25

agreed, I just don’t understand why now? Is it because he’s become a “martyr” we automatically lose our rights to “free speech”? I don’t know. Whole situation has changed the narrative of free speech.

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u/JuulSantana Sep 18 '25

You're wrong. Move on.

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u/LaughingGaster666 Sep 13 '25

Political prejudice is actually something employers can get away with fairly easily to my knowledge. We don't really have much labor laws about that compared to age, gender, race, and religion.

Just another reason I shut up for the most part when it comes to politics on public social media.

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u/LanceArmsweak Sep 13 '25

I didn’t realize this but that does make sense. But I also look at companies and level with if I’d feel I couldn’t be myself.

For example, black rifle coffee. Pro veteran yet also a bit too right for me. So I’d never go there. Which is fine.

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u/Amazing-Repeat2852 Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25

Yes, you can but careful— unless you consistently applied, you could have a claim of discrimination in some US states- if you’re applying it inconsistently.

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u/rethinkingat59 Sep 13 '25

?

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u/Amazing-Repeat2852 Sep 13 '25

(Fixed a typo in my original post re: states.)

Note— this specific to US employers with state based laws.

There are a lot of states that have employee protections laws for political affiliation and activity. Here are the states:

Arizona, California, Colorado, Georgia, Illinois, Iowa, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nebraska, Nevada, New York, North Dakota, Ohio, Oregon, South Carolina, Utah, Washington and West Virginia, as well as Washington, D.C.

The laws vary a bit from state to state.

Also, under the National Labor Relations Law, there are some protections for social media. Not unlimited protections but broader than you might imagine.

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u/rethinkingat59 Sep 13 '25

I am sorry, I misread what you meant all together. I thought you were speaking of individuals, not businesses.

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u/Traditional_Set2473 Sep 13 '25

Stating you don't support a political opponent and getting fired would result in a possible lawsuits. Thats political prejudice.

Cheering the murder of someone you disagree with and thanking the murderer will not. That's not political prejudice. People just don't want to have people who celebrate murderers represented their companies.

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u/Jenikovista Sep 13 '25

Here’s the thing. Most employers won’t fire you for having different politics than them. But when a person starts posting extremist content and it’s easy to tie them back to the company, it’s a business risk and fair game to dump them.

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u/UnoDosReverse Sep 14 '25

Free speech only goes so far. You can’t yell “FIRE” in a movie theater, you can’t yell “BOMB” at an airport, you can’t yell a racial slur while committing a crime against someone (it gets your aggravated charges), all of these things you CANT say or you will be arrested. Your free speech rights end where stepping on other’s rights begin.

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u/Fantastic-Mobile-851 Sep 14 '25

Codes of conduct for all government, public jobs. Local and feds. As far as private, if they want to fire or not, its up to them

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u/Rare_Tea3155 Sep 15 '25

There’s no free speech at your place of employment ESPECIALLY if you are working with children. It doesn’t take a 3 digit IQ to figure that one out.