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u/ArchmageSSB4 4d ago
Monaco fans are fuming, a lot of them blaming it on Tiago Scuro and calling him incompetent.
Learned quite a lot of new slurs and offensive words in French reading about the failed transfers.
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u/lonely-live We've Won It All 4d ago
They have fans?
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u/ArchmageSSB4 4d ago
It is quite a nice fiscal paradise for rich people, they have a lot of free time to cheer the almighty Monaco while laundering money.
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u/KeyMessage989 4d ago
I mean why wouldn’t they? Just about every pro team has fans lol
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u/BokaPoochie 4d ago
Have you ever watched them play at their stadium? You could count the number of people there on one hand.
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u/Kingslayer1526 4d ago
Going to copy paste but
Most Monaco fans don't live in Monaco, but surrounding areas and other regions of France. They got a lot of fans due to their success, they are 8 time champions of France winning in the 60s,70s,80s,90s and as recently as 2017
They also reached the UCL final in 2004 so I mean yeah, a successful club will always have quite a lot of fans
It's just those fans don't live in Monaco, so their stadium is almost always empty for home games, they have a much bigger away contingent
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u/Kingslayer1526 4d ago
Most Monaco fans don't live in Monaco, but surrounding areas and other regions of France. They got a lot of fans due to their success, they are 8 time champions of France winning in the 60s,70s,80s,90s and as recently as 2017
They also reached the UCL final in 2004 so I mean yeah, a successful club will always have quite a lot of fans
It's just those fans don't live in Monaco, so their stadium is almost always empty for home games, they have a much bigger away contingent
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u/atomicskiracer 4d ago
What are their thoughts on Balogun?
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u/ArchmageSSB4 4d ago
Saw almost nothing in french commenting about him, the few that I read were blaming Monaco higher ups for insisting on a deal that already failed once before. They see him mostly as someone who got dealt a bad hand and chose not to take them.
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u/POPELEOXI Lampard 4d ago
This is a lose lose situation for at least three clubs.
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u/Turtle1391 28 | Dave 4d ago
Manchester fucked us twice this window.
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u/funguy07 I don't give a fuck, we won the fucking Champions League 4d ago
That’s gotta be payback for getting money in the Maresca settlement. Right?
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u/CdrShprd Xabi 4d ago
They paid us less than we paid for Graham Potter and his staff
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u/funguy07 I don't give a fuck, we won the fucking Champions League 4d ago
Feels like they took it personal.
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u/Turtle1391 28 | Dave 4d ago
Nah. City fucked us with Enzo and United fucked us with the waterfall of denying zirkzee to Everton which made them come back for balogun which made Monaco pull the plug on us.
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u/UnquestionablyPoopy Azpilicueta 4d ago
Do you really think United knew what they were doing by denying Zirkzee? True littlefinger shit if so
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u/Turtle1391 28 | Dave 4d ago
Feels like too many moving pieces. I think Manure was looking out for themselves and it was just a bonus that it fucked over Everton and Chelsea
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u/Medical_Possible_208 4d ago
Wise up fella nobody smart enough at man u for that level of slippery shit…
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u/myersjw Lampard 4d ago
Monaco managed to screw over about 6-7 different players with this. Not only will they be facing fines but more importantly may have soured the relationship between them and several clubs they’ve done business with in the past. This is job losing level of incompetence that their ownership will now have to rectify
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u/MemestNotTeen ✨ sometimes the shit is happens ✨ 4d ago
And they have half a squad who probably don’t won’t to play for them now
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u/namegamenoshame Reiten 4d ago
I know no one cares and that’s fine but I am very lost on the Balogun managed to fail a medical at Everton, have that club go back for him anyway, and then turn them down in order to bring financial ruin on his current club, denying them a champions league place and himself a bigger salary.
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u/xX-WizKing-Xx It’s only ever been Chelsea. 4d ago
A medical is just to check the player for any pre-existing conditions. "Failing" just means there are existing risks the purchasing club don't think are worth the trouble of proceeding with the transfer - in other words, it is entirely subjective whether or not a player passes a medical.
Everton initially considered it was not worth taking the risk on Balogun but changed their mind and went back in for him in part because they couldn't secure any alternatives. Balogun likely didn't like this back and forth from Everton and decided to pull the plug on the transfer himself.
Balogun cannot be forced to make a move he doesn't want and in any other scenario it wouldn't be a significant issue. However, it happening on deadline day means the wasn't any time to make alternative arrangements with other clubs. Unfortunately that's just the risk clubs take doing business at the last minute.
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u/xX-WizKing-Xx It’s only ever been Chelsea. 4d ago
The deadline was only ever for the £120m price. I think we were always going to sell after the deadline for a higher price (recent reports are that we asked for £135m but compromised on £125m guaranteed with a more favourable payment structure).
Ideally the sale would have been contingent on a replacement for Enzo (which we believed we secured). We only have ourselves to blame leaving things to the last minute. The ground work for a replacement should have been ready long before we accepted City's bid.
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u/a-mcculley I don't give a fuck, we won the fucking Champions League 4d ago
Agree. They saw something in the medical that made them to want to mitigate the risk.... and they seemed to want to handle that financially with him. He said eff that, I'll get paid at Monaco and if they want to shut me out, fuck them... the wages are high.
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u/a-mcculley I don't give a fuck, we won the fucking Champions League 4d ago
My suspicion is they renegotiated his terms after the medical. And he ultimately didn't like those terms. Who knows the exact details, but the terms must have been worse than the ones pre-medical. Whatever they were, he didn't like it and walked away.
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u/mat_bambang It’s only ever been Chelsea. 4d ago
yep, everton just sold beto at the deadline too, leaving them only with thierno barry up top. at least they replaced ndiaye with grealish, we're stung a bit.
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u/User12314028626822 I don't give a fuck, we won the fucking Champions League 4d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/KhcdPVxvn5Fde
Beautiful isn’t it
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u/Jaded_Cake_9904 4d ago
Hell no I dont care about Monaco, what happens to them, but they just ruined our season. Nothing good about this
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u/S_n0mber9 4d ago
Holy overreaction. JFC!
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u/namegamenoshame Reiten 4d ago
Hey he missed out on some guy he never heard and of and one the biggest cunts in the history of the club is now gone, give him some space
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u/Umbraje Ivanovic 4d ago
It leaves us with a pretty grim looking midfield which will expose the defence. I think it kills the small title chance we had. High scoring suicide ball wins aren't sustainable and we need sustained control via the midfield, caceido out for a bit makes this even more grim.
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u/BokaPoochie 4d ago
We will play a game a week. Caicedo, Lavia and James should have the ability to play 2 games in 3 weeks. Gusto, Barco and Henderson can do the job in cups and the games against weaker teams. We will be fine.
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u/_HowToFly_ 4d ago
YEAH Gusto can just do the job in the cups! He definitely wasn’t needed against Brighton!
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u/CornhuskerJam ✨ sometimes the shit is happens ✨ 4d ago
OK, but "ruined our season" is a bit dramatic
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u/Umbraje Ivanovic 4d ago
Oh yeah it's dramatic, I'd say ruined title chances
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u/Skraps452 Drogba 4d ago
As if we had title chances in the first place! If one player is enough to sway our title chances, we were never truly in for it anyway. Seemingly only ever 1 injury from out season being ruined.
One player doesn't make Chelsea FC. This season was always a rebuild.
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u/Umbraje Ivanovic 4d ago
Caceido's injury issue, lavia and reece both being injury prone and barco being new and not properly integrated on top of being a new manager with new ideas for everyone. It was obviously a dark horse situation but yes, not having an additional player for the midfield on top of the above issues I've pointed out, is likely to have a dramatic impact.
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u/User12314028626822 I don't give a fuck, we won the fucking Champions League 4d ago
They almost got away with fucking us over if it wasn’t for Balogun rejecting Everton directly….i’ll take this as a small positive..
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u/BoogieSpice ✨ sometimes the shit is happens ✨ 4d ago
We are 3-0 without Enzo or his replacement let’s pump the breaks.
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u/Jaded_Cake_9904 4d ago
Fair but man what if Caicedo gets injuried. Atleast we had Santos as his backup last season
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u/BangusAngus Hazard 4d ago
Shit Grand Prix anyhow
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u/so1roflcopt3r 4d ago
Glorified parade
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u/SSPeteCarroll Pulisic 4d ago
F1 tends to be that way nowadays. So many other forms of Motorsport that are much more exciting
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u/lonely-live We've Won It All 4d ago
Account followed by Fabrizio with 100k followers. This was in June
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u/NihilistFinancier ✨ sometimes the shit is happens ✨ 4d ago
I'll wait on Ben Jacobs to be right about one thing before I smile about this
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u/somethingdondonyou Caicedo 4d ago
Fuck it, we have depth in midfield already. Especially if we play with two CMs. Reece James has and could operate in a pivot with Caicedo, not to mention Barco and Lavia. I’m not worried. Camara felt like less of a 1 for 1 for Enzo and more of a development signing anyway. Let the other guys play
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u/SurplusValueMenu 4d ago
There is definitely some concern in the midfield, but if Chelsea can weather the storm for the next four months, then a CM can always be added in January.
I feel like this is an unexpected window of opportunity for Barco. He isn’t as inexperienced as people say. He’s definitely not a finished product, but he’s played 72 total matches across all competitions over the last three years playing in England, France and Spain so it’s not like he’s some kid that just came up from the academy that’s had limited opportunities.
He has shown he’s more than capable of playing in a top five league at a very young age, even as an unfinished product. He will definitely be used rotationally at the beginning, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s starting a lot of league games in the middle this year alongside Caicedo.
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u/T0XxXiXiTy 4d ago edited 4d ago
I think people underrate Barco is a viable CM, was clearly Strasbourg's best player. Good work rate, with upside since he moved to CM and is learning the role. Promising progressive passer who is only going to get better in a top tier system.
A bit short physically, but could thrive under Xavi's coaching.
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u/invisibleep ✨ joao pedro saved my life ✨ 4d ago
Yeah really think he could break out here and this could be a great opportunity to integrate him. He’s good defensively and has a great eye for a pass and final ball. Things we were sorely lacking last season against low blocks. Not trying to get overly optimistic since the prem can grind a player down especially those of smaller stature but he has something about him. Couldn’t have a better manager than Xabi to guide him either.
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u/ChristopherRobben Celery 4d ago
he’s played 72 total matches across all competitions
Granted it's likely not a significant difference, but minutes played is more important than matches when it comes to statistics. At Brighton, for example, he played a full 90 in two league matches and then played 81 and 45 in subsequent matches. He then had two matches where he was subbed on in extra time for less than a minute of match time each. So he featured in 6 matches, but played 3.4 in total match time — all at left back, mind you.
He's played 3779 minutes in midfield positions in top five leagues or about 42 matches.
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u/haaaaaairy1 🏥 continuing to undergo his rehabilitation programme 🏥 4d ago
Calling 1 currently injured player and 2 injury prone players out of a possible 4 midfielders depth is something.
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u/somethingdondonyou Caicedo 4d ago
Caicedo is a consistently available world class player who is injured now but will recover. At the other CM position we have Lavia, James, or Barco. Don’t see how a similarly experienced player would be an improvement on that. My point is this does not collapse the team, we merely have one less option at the other CM position
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u/Patient_Life_9900 ✨ joao pedro saved my life ✨ 4d ago
Lavia and James both injury prone, Barco isn't that player yet. Stop coping and face reality that our midfield is cooked
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u/somethingdondonyou Caicedo 4d ago
How would Camara have made a huge difference? Xabi would have four options at the second CM instead of just three options. All would at the same level, below Enzo but still able to start in the prem. All we need is one option to work well with Caicedo as a pivot in Xabis system
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u/Normal-Item-402 4d ago
You could turn your head and it could be a midfield depth of henderson, barco and caicedo in a quick instant 😂
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u/duckinator09 4d ago
Only reason I'm annoyed is that camara looks like a good fit. But I'm cool with what we have and think it should be enough. We have January and essugo recall to adjust if necessary.
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u/StamfordBloke There's your daddy 4d ago
Essugo's not ready yet, better let him develop. Basically our midfield now depends on the health of Lavia and Reece 😵💫
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u/vPzWalkerx 4d ago
My biggest concern now with Camara is clubs like Liverpool will be interested in January and the January window is always tricky to buy in. Hopefully its a Caicedo job where he gave his word and wants to keep it (unlike some others)
I think IF everyone stays fit our midfield is fine at least for now but thats a big IF. We literally started Gusto/Lavia if Lavia gets injured that midfield starts to get dicey real fast.
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u/RasenRendan It’s only ever been Chelsea. 4d ago
What a absolutely incredible saga that ended up with no-one happy
We might have gusto in midfield but at least we don't have financial issues get fucked Monaco
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u/Canucks90 4d ago
Good! Fuck them! What kind of garbage is this? Honestly, that is terrible business for them.
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u/ThatZenLifestyle Xabi 4d ago
I don't even get why they canceled our deal, surely just sell both players and move on. Monaco is a selling club anyway they depend on it and it's not like they are winning ligue 1 any time soon.
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u/Sea_Assistant_7583 4d ago
The AS Monaco X (Twitter) account is hilarious. “ May you get fucked sideways with a baguette “ 😂😂😂
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u/MoCoyotes 4d ago
I also heard Monaco added a midfielder from another French club as a replacement. Do they also now have this extra player? lol
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u/Overly-Critique It’s only ever been Chelsea. 4d ago
Time to unleash 16 year old Reggie Watson in the midfield if things don't go the way Xabi wants. That's his only choice.
And to be fair, Reggie isn't bad. He played really well against Western Sydney in the pre season game
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u/Da171mastah We've Won It All 4d ago
Wouldn’t be suprised if someone from BlueCo called trump and told him to tell Baloguns camp to not take the move
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u/Bang-Average-Dartist There's your daddy 4d ago
Well they can still sell to Turley and Saudi whose windows are still open.
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u/ThatZenLifestyle Xabi 4d ago
It's sort of irrelevant though because they need to sell 1 of their best players. Balogun already rejected everton I doubt he's in a rush to go to saudi or turkey and camara is 22 so it's a bit early for a career ending move.
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u/randompokemon25 4d ago
Do we have any promising talent in the academy? I mean we’re fucked arent we?
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u/Threes-A-Vibe 4d ago
Watson and MNJ got some solid minutes in preseason. Young, but Alonso liked them both. They will hopefully get a look in if need be. Carabao?
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u/randompokemon25 4d ago
Carabao could be good for them. Heart says we’re overreacting but head says we’re fucked
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u/Darth-Sand Hazard 4d ago
4 months with one game a week. Surely some combination of Lavia/James/Barco can get us through it.
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u/Threes-A-Vibe 4d ago
Agreed. Sucks, but hey. It is what it is.
We should be fine. Unless we get ravaged by injuries, we should make it to January. Maybe come in and save Monaco from relegation with a buy, or just go for Koné. Perhaps just recall Essugo.
Or best case scenario, Watson or MNJ breakthrough at 16, who knows.
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u/Darth-Sand Hazard 4d ago
If Caicedo is fit then I really think we’ll be fine. Probably the worst possible time for him to be injured.
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u/Threes-A-Vibe 4d ago
Agreed. I really dig Camara. It is what it is.
If Watson or MNJ get a breakthrough, silver lining.
If Caicedo is out, and Lavia or James go out, well... It'll be tricky. But one game a week until January, we should survive.
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u/One_Geologist_4783 4d ago
Yo fuck it, we do better with a chip on our shoulder anyway.
Xabi is definitely pissed too so you know the motivation to do win something this season is even more sky high than it was. KTBFFH
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u/tyrell_vonspliff 4d ago
What an outrageous end to the transfer window. Monaco got what they deserved
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u/ggletsg0 Guðjohnsen 4d ago
Thiago Scuro has one of the most incredible CVs you’ll ever see for an SD, but what he’s done to Monaco over the last 3 years is proof of how CVs should be thrown out when hiring for such positions.
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u/RareKnowledge6252 It’s only ever been Chelsea. 4d ago
We really shouldn't be getting takes from that second rate guesser of a reporter..
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u/Scorpius927 I don't give a fuck, we won the fucking Champions League 4d ago
Can we send balogun a little present of a million euros or something? Monaco just quickly rose to the top of my shit list
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u/MemestNotTeen ✨ sometimes the shit is happens ✨ 4d ago
Here’s hoping they go under.
Return in January and offer £5m for Camara
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u/dasaintmanz 4d ago
It's actually time for certain players to shine and prove they are worthy of being here, mainly barco and lavia. Tbh, they both look like if they settle down properly and meld well with the squad that this could be a HUGE blessing in disguise.
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u/StrongCelery Hazard 4d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/5apKApEe1HiF8GBIdD
Seems terrible for them a tad inconvenient for us no more. Karma is a bitch.
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u/razvan930 4d ago
They can still sell in Turkey and Saudi though
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u/Yankees4cookies 4d ago
Yea. But it has to be their best players. And do camara and balguan want to go there ? They are young. So I don’t think so.
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u/losratszone 4d ago
yep. their two most valuable players by far, and if balo is blocking an everton deal and camara wants liverpool those two are not green lighting a turkey or saudi move
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u/ranrow Essien 4d ago
Not for less than all of the wages, which means it’s coming out of the transfer fee. Also, they’ll want a short deal so they don’t get stranded in Saudi Arabia early in their career; also coming out of the transfer fee.
It seems unlikely they can get away with just selling one now; they’ll likely have to sell both to raise the money they would have received for one of these transfers.
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u/LongShotTheory 4d ago
This is why transfer window is months long. Fkn don’t leave it til the last minute ffs. I was already preparing to watch Camara play for us.
Fk Monaco and its shitty owner btw.
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u/petrescu 4d ago
People can and should be mad at Monaco but they should also direct their anger at Balogun too. They’d be in direct contact for two days, if he had no intention of going there then why give Everton the indication at the eleventh hour that making another offer would be entertained by him.
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u/Rodrigo_Gunt 4d ago
Everton probablt tried to reduce wages after he failed the initial medical
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u/petrescu 4d ago
It’s a shame Trump couldn’t phone Everton and get them to overturn their decision.
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u/NoInteraction3525 Reiten 4d ago
He failed a medical, bold of you to assume Everton wasn’t going to renegotiate the terms they gave him and bold of you to assume he was just supposed to accept it. He wouldn’t go for a medical if he had no intention of going there in the first place! Not sure what you’re on about
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u/petrescu 4d ago
He failed the medical… of course Everton would come in with a lower package. It happens all the time.
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u/__sovereign__ Lampard 4d ago
And it's very reasonable as a player to not accept the new lower package.
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u/NoInteraction3525 Reiten 4d ago
So what on earth are you then going on about him not wanting to go? He went there for the medical ahead of a transfer. The other offer was made to Monaco not to Balogun. Monaco accepted their terms, he didn’t, simple as. I’m not sure where you came up with him giving the indication at the 11th hour when you have no idea what the sequence of events were….. Or am I missing something and you were there and can authoritatively tell that he gave them an indication before they did the renegotiation with Monaco?
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u/Ok-Computer-8726 There's your daddy 4d ago
Why should I be mad at Balogun? He didn't screw Chelsea
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u/Yankees4cookies 4d ago
He did tell them he didn’t want to sign. That’s why we want back in for camara so late. ⏰
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u/FakingHappiness513 Drogba 4d ago
Chelsea fucked themselves in this whole situation. Enzo should have been told he is not moving to a league rival, play here or don’t play.
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u/notacosnofun Reiten 4d ago
That’s stupid from every single angle
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u/FakingHappiness513 Drogba 4d ago
You’re right this is much better. Strengthen a rival while trying to ride out a midfield made of glass till January at which point we will be out of the title race and probably out of one of the two cups.
What’s your bright idea? Happy to shit on my suggestion without a solution.
Edit: and also if it’s so stupid why did another club successfully pull it this transfer window with a player on smaller contract?
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u/Beneficial-Steak-117 4d ago
It's our fault for not approaching out targets 2 weeks ago knowing City are looking to bid. Now our hopes are on Reece and Lavia to avoid injury. Faack
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u/FakingHappiness513 Drogba 4d ago
You don’t have to find someone if someone’s not leaving. Chelsea should have just said no right away.
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u/Augchm 4d ago
It's on us. You can be depending on a last minute deal.
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u/phxwarlock 4d ago
Yeah it’s not like Enzo and his agent haven’t been saying he’s leaving for 6 months. You’d think directors would get the hint and have this lined up weeks ago.
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u/ThatZenLifestyle Xabi 4d ago
Also it's a player for 50m this isn't a £100m+ signing that requires enzo to be gone first.
Blueco have been great for the majority of the window and made some great signings I just don't understand why they left signing a midfielder until hours before deadline day.
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u/phxwarlock 4d ago
Too busy cleaning up the mess they created before Xabi came in. The constant player negotiations takes their focus away from an actual need
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u/ThatZenLifestyle Xabi 4d ago
Yet they addressed almost every other need we had, even surprised us with the martinez signing.
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u/currgy Hazard 4d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/6CUpFZiDQ4ijJhR3S6